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Element based video meetings

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  • fbartelsF Offline
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    #1

    Just learned about https://element.io/blog/introducing-native-matrix-voip-with-element-call/ still early in development, but seems promising.

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    Very nice. Looks like https://github.com/vector-im/element-call is the upstream repo providing this. From the readme, it seems it uses a full mesh, so not sure how well this is going to scale.

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    @girish said in Element based video meetings:

    not sure how well this is going to scale.

    It says they plan to add an SFU

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    replied to jdaviescoates on last edited by girish
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    @jdaviescoates said in Element based video meetings:

    It says they plan to add an SFU

    Where did you read this? The project says "Showcase for full mesh video chat powered by Matrix, implementing MSC3401."

    edit: nevermind, it's in the blog post

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    Are video connections established directly between users? Or do the video feeds go through the Cloudron server?

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    @YurkshireLad said in Element based video meetings:

    Are video connections established directly between users?

    The answer is theoretical, since Element Call is not yet available on Cloudron, but if it is really a "full mesh" then this means that it will use WebRTC to establish individual connections between participants (if you are in a call with three other participants you are sending out your stream three times). To establish the initial connection turn and stun are used (which is provided by your Cloudron installation) and in the worst case if no direct connection is possible between individual users the turn server is used as a relay (data flows through your Turn, but encrypted of course).

    Once the SFU is added no individual connections are established and rather all traffic is routed through the SFU.

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    @fbartels said in Element based video meetings:

    Element Call is not yet available on Cloudron

    What's stopping it being available on Cloudron? Do we know?

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    @jdaviescoates in their repo they are calling it a "showcase" and also require a specific development branch of one of their dependencies. Overall the project does not look quite "ready" to me yet.

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