Solved How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?

[jdaviescoates]

When I'm not working I tend to just close my laptop lid.

When I open it again I have to login to Roundcube again. This is a minor annoyance I want to avoid (Gmail doesn't do this).

On my first quick search it look like perhaps I need to edit or comment out $rcmail_config['session_lifetime'] = 10;

(e.g. https://billing.hostnox.gr/knowledgebase/55/------Session-invalid-or-expired--Roundcube-or-WHM.html?language=english )

But no such line is included in /app/data/customconfig.php

Any ideas?

I guess I could experiment with higher values than 10, but I basically don't ever want my session to end unless I manually log out.

Edit: looks like lots of people have this same issue, see also https://issuekiller.com/issues/roundcube/roundcubemail/15073963

Edit 2: this would seem to suggest it could be related to a MySQL issue:
https://forums.cpanel.net/threads/upgraded-to-11-30-0-now-roundcube-saying-session-expired-or-is-invalid.212331/post-875951

Edit 3: sounds like perhaps this PR would fix it https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/pull/7709

Edit 4: see also https://github.com/emtiu/roundcube-cookielifetime

Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal (I wonder if SnappyMail have fixed this annoying issue...)

[jdaviescoates]

@necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

@jdaviescoates Sorry, but Firefox is not what it used to be (or the web has changed) - I gave up on Firefox due to so many sites not loading, not being compatible or other issues. Might be their strict default privacy and container settings.

That's it! (I think)

I just clicked on the little shield on the far left of the address bar and toggled Enhanced Tracking Protection is ON for this site to Enhance Tracking Protection is OFF for this site

Then I closed down Firefox and all my other apps and restarted my machine. Open up Firefox and I'm still logged in. Hopefully it'll now stay that way!

Thanks!

[necrevistonnezr]

@jdaviescoates
According to this (https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/5961) I set

$rcmail_config['session lifetime'] = 10080;

in app/data/customconfig.php and I’m good for a month or so….

In context:
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[jdaviescoates]

@necrevistonnezr thanks, I'll give that a try in the first instance and see how I get on...

[necrevistonnezr]

@jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal (I wonder if SnappyMail have fixed this annoying issue...)

I agree. BTW Snappymail is a fork of Rainloop, not of Roundcube.

[jdaviescoates]

@necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

BTW Snappymail is a fork of Rainloop, not of Roundcube.

Oh yes, thanks for the reminder

[jdaviescoates]

@jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

@necrevistonnezr thanks, I'll give that a try in the first instance and see how I get on...

So, I added:

$rcmail_config['session lifetime‘] = 10080;

To app/data/customconfig.php

But it hasn't made any difference at all.

When I opened my laptop this morning I had to log back in to Roundcube, again.

Now I'm wondering if I restarted the app (or whether I would've needed to)

[fbartels]

@jdaviescoates since this is just php code a restart is not needed. What is needed however is you reloading the application in your browser to make the change reach your session.

@jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

Gmail doesn't do this

Gmail is also not a php application. The reason sessions are handled better there is because their user sessions are based on openid connect, which means you get a refresh token with every login, that can (as long as the refresh token is valid) be used to get a session token without the need to perform another login.

[jdaviescoates]

@fbartels said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

What is needed however is you reloading the application in your browser to make the change reach your session.

Thanks. I guess it refreshed when I logged in again this morning. Let's see what happens tomorrow morning...

[jdaviescoates]

@jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

Let's see what happens tomorrow morning...

No change.

[necrevistonnezr]

@jdaviescoates is uBlock Origin blocking any cookies?

[jdaviescoates]

@necrevistonnezr hah, thanks!

That's quite likely it I guess.

Thought I'd turned uBlock off for all my own domain but I've moved this Roundcube install around a bit so I guess not!

Have turned it off now, hopefully that'll help...

[humptydumpty]

@necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

$rcmail_config['session lifetime‘] = 10080;

If I'm not mistaken, there's a typo in that code. After LIFETIME, the ending ' seems to be something else.

[jdaviescoates]

@humptydumpty yeah, when I pasted it in to the terminal it was clear (because of the code highlight) it wasn't correct so I replaced it with a ' - but thanks for pointing that out in case that was the issue

[necrevistonnezr]

@humptydumpty said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

@necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

$rcmail_config['session lifetime‘] = 10080;

If I'm not mistaken, there's a typo in that code. After LIFETIME, the ending ' seems to be something else.

You‘re right! I had fiddled with that post on the iPhone - quite a hassle. I corrected it now in the post above for future reference.

[timconsidine]

@jdaviescoates I realise this is not the direction of most replies/solutions, but if the programmatic approach does not deliver, on my Mac I have a utility which responds to triggers like laptop shut and fires off an action. I'm sure Windows has similar. Although the execution action may be a bit brutal (close app).

Just a thought.

[jdaviescoates]

@timconsidine thanks. I'm on Ubuntu, but probably stuff on here too I could try if my turning off uBlock doesn't help...

[jdaviescoates]

@jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

if my turning off uBlock doesn't help...

Well, turning off uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger hasn't helped at all.

I posted an issue on the Roundcube github too and they've just replied saying "this is not supported" and closed it

https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/8504

So perhaps I'm trying to achieve something which isn't possible yet

Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal is makes me sad.

[necrevistonnezr]

@jdaviescoates Yeah, Alexander is not very helpful - though you gave him a location for the config that is non-standard and Cloudron specific (/app/data/ something).
Again, I use Roundcube everyday on my work computer and the session is kept alive even between reboots with the config described above...
Is it browser related (is it Firefox?) - maybe try a different one? A setting that deletes cookies from time to time?

[alexlixs]

@jdaviescoates Facing same issue.

[girish]

@alexlixs Can you confirm you are not a bot?

[jdaviescoates]

I just played around with this again and this seems to be working for me:

$config['session lifetime'] = '10080';

It's unclear if $rcconfig or just $config should be used or if either would work, but the latter, i.e. just $config, appears to be working for me.

Also in previous attempts I was missing the 's around the 10080, and from the formatting of other settings in the customconfig.php I figured I'd try '10080' and then it worked.

[girish]

@jdaviescoates $config is the correct variable name.

[necrevistonnezr]

@girish said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

@jdaviescoates $config is the correct variable name.

Well, for some values, it seems that $rcmail_config is correct…

As said before, for me

$rcmail_config['session_lifetime'] = 10080;

works?!

[girish]

@necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

Well, for some values, it seems that $rcmail_config is correct…

I just looked up roundcube code and it seems $rcmail_config and $config are just aliases. https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/blob/01b7dbd1a75bd712f4cac69f5aa421b049dd5d8b/program/include/rcmail_install.php#L159 says $rcmail_config is the deprecated name.

[jdaviescoates]

@jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

I just played around with this again and this seems to be working for me:

$config['session lifetime'] = '10080';

It's unclear if $rcconfig or just $config should be used or if either would work, but the latter, i.e. just $config, appears to be working for me.

Also in previous attempts I was missing the 's around the 10080, and from the formatting of other settings in the customconfig.php I figured I'd try '10080' and then it worked.

This was previously marked as the solution, but that hasn't done it either. Think I'm gonna have to give up on this one

@jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal

You can say that again! Recent updates to Roundcube have broken logging in without an error and the CalDAV connection.

[necrevistonnezr]

@jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

You can say that again! Recent updates to Roundcube have broken logging in without an error and the CalDAV connection.

I have neither of these issues on current Roundcube with Safari or Edge. No errors logging in and I’m staying logged in. What browser are you using?

[jdaviescoates]

@necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

What browser are you using?

Firefox. But pretty sure I've tested in Chromium before too.

The other issues have been resolved by updated the CalDAV plugin but I still get logged out of email whenever I close my laptop lid.

[necrevistonnezr]

@jdaviescoates Sorry, but Firefox is not what it used to be (or the web has changed) - I gave up on Firefox due to so many sites not loading, not being compatible or other issues. Might be their strict default privacy and container settings.

[jdaviescoates]

@necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

@jdaviescoates Sorry, but Firefox is not what it used to be (or the web has changed) - I gave up on Firefox due to so many sites not loading, not being compatible or other issues. Might be their strict default privacy and container settings.

That's it! (I think)

I just clicked on the little shield on the far left of the address bar and toggled Enhanced Tracking Protection is ON for this site to Enhance Tracking Protection is OFF for this site

Then I closed down Firefox and all my other apps and restarted my machine. Open up Firefox and I'm still logged in. Hopefully it'll now stay that way!

Thanks!

[jdaviescoates]

@jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

Hopefully it'll now stay that way!

It hasn't

But it's still WAY better than it was before.

[humptydumpty]

@jdaviescoates I added the url to the exception rules in FF (privacy & security section) and that didn't help either. I tried using Brave instead, no luck with that either.

[jdaviescoates]

@humptydumpty yeah, I'm now leaning towards giving up on Roundcube and moving to SnappyMail instead as that doesn't seem to have this problem (and is nice and snappy too! and the CardDAV integration stuff is out of the box instead of having to install a plugin for Roundcube)

[humptydumpty]

@jdaviescoates I might end up doing the same

[necrevistonnezr]

@jdaviescoates I always come back to Roundcube as Snappymail does not do full text search and hence is useless for me. Also sender aliases are much easier to set up in Roundcube.

[robi]

@necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

Also sender aliases are much easier to set up in Roundcube.

Eh? It's easy as pie in Snappy.. just add another identity fill in two fields and done.

[necrevistonnezr]

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[necrevistonnezr]

@robi said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

@necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

Also sender aliases are much easier to set up in Roundcube.

Eh? It's easy as pie in Snappy.. just add another identity fill in two fields and done.

True, I remembered that wrong. Though you cannot use a different domain / SMTP server, I believe.

And to clarify regarding full text search: You can search for message content, but not across folders(!).

See also https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6391/virtual-all-mails-folder-in-dovecot-to-improve-search/

[jdaviescoates]

@necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

cannot use a different domain

You can. Right now I've got both uniteddiversity.coop and bettermedia.uk addresses set-up in Snappy (but yeah, both domains are connected to the same Cloudron)

@necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

You can search for message content, but not across folders(!).

Yeah, I've noticed that, a bit of pain. Think perhaps I'll create an issue on SnappyMail github about it...

[necrevistonnezr]

@jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

Yeah, I've noticed that, a bit of pain. Think perhaps I'll create an issue on SnappyMail github about it...

I did already some time ago: https://github.com/the-djmaze/snappymail/issues/196 (was linked above)
For that we need the Dovecot Virtual Folder @girish mentioned in the other thread