SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support

[LoudLemur]

SearxNG is a fork of Searx. ChatGPT is an amazing AI (Artificial Intelligence) which can sometimes provide better results than an actual search engine.

Maybe Cloudron could support SearxNG too, since they are so similar. Registration with email is required to use ChatGPT but unlimited uses are made available.

https://github.com/searxng/searxng/issues/2008#issuecomment-1338164956

https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/

https://docs.searxng.org/

https://github.com/searxng

[fbartels]

@LoudLemur said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

can sometimes provide better results than an actual search engine.

I am not sure if I would subscribe to this statement. Chatgpt for sure is impressive and depending on the use case the output can be quite helpful (a college of mine let it design and refine a dnd campaign for example), but there is also a lot of nonsense in the output.

For example I asked it what are things to do in my local city (which is a very search engine like question) and four out of five places did not exist and for the fifth it did lump together the local sports club and the public swimming pool.

[marcusquinn]

Now that's more interesting! Early days, but the A.I. arms-race is certainly on...

• https://chat.openai.com

[LoudLemur]

@marcusquinn

AI search is moving ahead food speed:

https://you.com

[girish]

@LoudLemur Off topic, but why was searx forked?

[jdaviescoates]

@girish said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

@LoudLemur Off topic, but why was searx forked?

Sounds like they just wanted to improve it in various ways, see some of the differences listed at https://github.com/searxng/searxng

Perhaps the Cloudron package should move to SearXNG?

[LoudLemur]

@girish From the docs, I have the impression they just got fed up trying to contribute and wanted to improve the GUI.

They are on IRC

Matrix
#searxng:matrix.org
IRC
#searxng on libera.chat which is bridged to Matrix.

[jdaviescoates]

@LoudLemur said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

Matrix
#searxng:matrix.org

I asked them there:

"Long story told short: We were the only ones who still made significant contributions, but the development of searx had fallen asleep and we could no longer place any further development there."

Sounds to me like perhaps we should switch the Cloudron package to SearXNG

[girish]

@jdaviescoates ah, thanks for the info! I wanted to switch as well but was trying to find out why they forked before I made the switch.

[LoudLemur]

@girish said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

@jdaviescoates ah, thanks for the info! I wanted to switch as well but was trying to find out why they forked before I made the switch.

Thanks and thanks @jdaviescoates . SearxNG looks like the better choice.

For me the problem is that though the front-end is Free, all the "search" engines are censorious, Big Data monstrosities. I really hope we are able to find a Free search that can be run on Cloudron.

Just to remind everybody, there is a request by JoDuMonT here for YaCy:

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2715/yacy-decentralized-web-search?_=1674639379272

[girish]

The package is switched to SearXNG now.

[RazielKanos]

@girish
So, does it update automatically, or do we have to reinstall?

[girish]

@RazielKanos See https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8782/searx-searxng . If you can reinstall, that is best.

[RazielKanos]

@girish
it spits out an error message

I am talking a look into the setting.xml, but just wanted to let you know

[RazielKanos]

@RazielKanos
seems to go away the moment you change something in the interface settings

[RazielKanos]

I take the CHatGPT.py file is not in this pack yet? since we have to edit out API token directly into this file

https://github.com/searxng/searxng/pull/2009/files#diff-115ac0f5d4f9cd5a7587487da3fb0ceaebe354c547c8c607019bd688917c6a57R315

[jdaviescoates]

@girish said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

If you can reinstall, that is best.

Why so?

I updated, seems to be working fine.

[girish]

@RazielKanos if you scroll all the way down that pr, it shows the settings.yml config

[timconsidine]

@fbartels said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

For example I asked it what are things to do in my local city (which is a very search engine like question) and four out of five places did not exist and for the fifth it did lump together the local sports club and the public swimming pool.

This is a very real and understated / overlooked problem.
I don't understand this massive rush into ChatGPT.
Just because some AI engine spouts some bollox does NOT mean it is true.
I fear greatly for the loss of intelligent discrimination of fact vs fiction that is about to crush us all.

If there was one sensible law to be introduced, it would be that all output from ChatGPT (and similar) should be labelled this might well be bollox - an AI engine generated it.

[marcusquinn]

Wow, much nicer UX:

• https://dev.searxng.org/screenshots.html#config=Firefox+1920&test_case=search_general