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    SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support

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      LoudLemur last edited by

      SearxNG is a fork of Searx. ChatGPT is an amazing AI (Artificial Intelligence) which can sometimes provide better results than an actual search engine.

      Maybe Cloudron could support SearxNG too, since they are so similar. Registration with email is required to use ChatGPT but unlimited uses are made available.

      https://github.com/searxng/searxng/issues/2008#issuecomment-1338164956

      https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/

      https://docs.searxng.org/

      https://github.com/searxng

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        fbartels App Dev @LoudLemur last edited by

        @LoudLemur said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

        can sometimes provide better results than an actual search engine.

        I am not sure if I would subscribe to this statement. Chatgpt for sure is impressive and depending on the use case the output can be quite helpful (a college of mine let it design and refine a dnd campaign for example), but there is also a lot of nonsense in the output.

        For example I asked it what are things to do in my local city (which is a very search engine like question) and four out of five places did not exist and for the fifth it did lump together the local sports club and the public swimming pool.

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        • marcusquinn
          marcusquinn last edited by

          Now that's more interesting! Early days, but the A.I. arms-race is certainly on...

          • https://chat.openai.com

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            LoudLemur @marcusquinn last edited by

            @marcusquinn

            AI search is moving ahead food speed:

            https://you.com

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            • girish
              girish Staff @LoudLemur last edited by

              @LoudLemur Off topic, but why was searx forked?

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                jdaviescoates @girish last edited by

                @girish said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

                @LoudLemur Off topic, but why was searx forked?

                Sounds like they just wanted to improve it in various ways, see some of the differences listed at https://github.com/searxng/searxng

                Perhaps the Cloudron package should move to SearXNG? 🤷

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  LoudLemur @girish last edited by

                  @girish From the docs, I have the impression they just got fed up trying to contribute and wanted to improve the GUI.

                  They are on IRC

                  Matrix
                  #searxng:matrix.org
                  IRC
                  #searxng on libera.chat which is bridged to Matrix.

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                    jdaviescoates @LoudLemur last edited by

                    @LoudLemur said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

                    Matrix
                    #searxng:matrix.org

                    I asked them there:

                    "Long story told short: We were the only ones who still made significant contributions, but the development of searx had fallen asleep and we could no longer place any further development there."

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                    Sounds to me like perhaps we should switch the Cloudron package to SearXNG

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • girish
                      girish Staff @jdaviescoates last edited by

                      @jdaviescoates ah, thanks for the info! I wanted to switch as well but was trying to find out why they forked before I made the switch.

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                        LoudLemur @girish last edited by

                        @girish said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

                        @jdaviescoates ah, thanks for the info! I wanted to switch as well but was trying to find out why they forked before I made the switch.

                        Thanks and thanks @jdaviescoates . SearxNG looks like the better choice.

                        For me the problem is that though the front-end is Free, all the "search" engines are censorious, Big Data monstrosities. I really hope we are able to find a Free search that can be run on Cloudron.

                        Just to remind everybody, there is a request by JoDuMonT here for YaCy:

                        https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2715/yacy-decentralized-web-search?_=1674639379272

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                        • girish
                          girish Staff last edited by

                          The package is switched to SearXNG now.

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                            RazielKanos @girish last edited by

                            @girish
                            So, does it update automatically, or do we have to reinstall?

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                            • girish
                              girish Staff @RazielKanos last edited by

                              @RazielKanos See https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8782/searx-searxng . If you can reinstall, that is best.

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                                RazielKanos @girish last edited by

                                @girish
                                it spits out an error message
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                                I am talking a look into the setting.xml, but just wanted to let you know

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                                  RazielKanos @RazielKanos last edited by

                                  @RazielKanos
                                  seems to go away the moment you change something in the interface settings 🙂

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                                    RazielKanos last edited by

                                    I take the CHatGPT.py file is not in this pack yet? since we have to edit out API token directly into this file

                                    https://github.com/searxng/searxng/pull/2009/files#diff-115ac0f5d4f9cd5a7587487da3fb0ceaebe354c547c8c607019bd688917c6a57R315

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                                      jdaviescoates @girish last edited by

                                      @girish said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

                                      If you can reinstall, that is best.

                                      Why so?

                                      I updated, seems to be working fine.

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • girish
                                        girish Staff @RazielKanos last edited by

                                        @RazielKanos if you scroll all the way down that pr, it shows the settings.yml config

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                                        • timconsidine
                                          timconsidine App Dev @fbartels last edited by timconsidine

                                          @fbartels said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

                                          For example I asked it what are things to do in my local city (which is a very search engine like question) and four out of five places did not exist and for the fifth it did lump together the local sports club and the public swimming pool.

                                          This is a very real and understated / overlooked problem.
                                          I don't understand this massive rush into ChatGPT.
                                          Just because some AI engine spouts some bollox does NOT mean it is true.
                                          I fear greatly for the loss of intelligent discrimination of fact vs fiction that is about to crush us all.

                                          If there was one sensible law to be introduced, it would be that all output from ChatGPT (and similar) should be labelled this might well be bollox - an AI engine generated it.

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                                          • marcusquinn
                                            marcusquinn last edited by

                                            Wow, much nicer UX:

                                            • https://dev.searxng.org/screenshots.html#config=Firefox+1920&test_case=search_general

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