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SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support

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    LoudLemur
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    SearxNG is a fork of Searx. ChatGPT is an amazing AI (Artificial Intelligence) which can sometimes provide better results than an actual search engine.

    Maybe Cloudron could support SearxNG too, since they are so similar. Registration with email is required to use ChatGPT but unlimited uses are made available.

    https://github.com/searxng/searxng/issues/2008#issuecomment-1338164956

    https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/

    https://docs.searxng.org/

    https://github.com/searxng

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    • L LoudLemur

      SearxNG is a fork of Searx. ChatGPT is an amazing AI (Artificial Intelligence) which can sometimes provide better results than an actual search engine.

      Maybe Cloudron could support SearxNG too, since they are so similar. Registration with email is required to use ChatGPT but unlimited uses are made available.

      https://github.com/searxng/searxng/issues/2008#issuecomment-1338164956

      https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/

      https://docs.searxng.org/

      https://github.com/searxng

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      fbartels
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      @LoudLemur said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

      can sometimes provide better results than an actual search engine.

      I am not sure if I would subscribe to this statement. Chatgpt for sure is impressive and depending on the use case the output can be quite helpful (a college of mine let it design and refine a dnd campaign for example), but there is also a lot of nonsense in the output.

      For example I asked it what are things to do in my local city (which is a very search engine like question) and four out of five places did not exist and for the fifth it did lump together the local sports club and the public swimming pool.

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        marcusquinn
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        #3

        Now that's more interesting! Early days, but the A.I. arms-race is certainly on...

        • https://chat.openai.com

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        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

          Now that's more interesting! Early days, but the A.I. arms-race is certainly on...

          • https://chat.openai.com
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          LoudLemur
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          #4

          @marcusquinn

          AI search is moving ahead food speed:

          https://you.com

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          • L LoudLemur

            @marcusquinn

            AI search is moving ahead food speed:

            https://you.com

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            girish
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            @LoudLemur Off topic, but why was searx forked?

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            • girishG girish

              @LoudLemur Off topic, but why was searx forked?

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              jdaviescoates
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              @girish said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

              @LoudLemur Off topic, but why was searx forked?

              Sounds like they just wanted to improve it in various ways, see some of the differences listed at https://github.com/searxng/searxng

              Perhaps the Cloudron package should move to SearXNG? 🤷

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • girishG girish

                @LoudLemur Off topic, but why was searx forked?

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                @girish From the docs, I have the impression they just got fed up trying to contribute and wanted to improve the GUI.

                They are on IRC

                Matrix
                #searxng:matrix.org
                IRC
                #searxng on libera.chat which is bridged to Matrix.

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                • L LoudLemur

                  @girish From the docs, I have the impression they just got fed up trying to contribute and wanted to improve the GUI.

                  They are on IRC

                  Matrix
                  #searxng:matrix.org
                  IRC
                  #searxng on libera.chat which is bridged to Matrix.

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                  jdaviescoates
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                  @LoudLemur said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

                  Matrix
                  #searxng:matrix.org

                  I asked them there:

                  "Long story told short: We were the only ones who still made significant contributions, but the development of searx had fallen asleep and we could no longer place any further development there."

                  61471964-aca5-48fc-ad33-f282e9eb5355-image.png

                  Sounds to me like perhaps we should switch the Cloudron package to SearXNG

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @LoudLemur said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

                    Matrix
                    #searxng:matrix.org

                    I asked them there:

                    "Long story told short: We were the only ones who still made significant contributions, but the development of searx had fallen asleep and we could no longer place any further development there."

                    61471964-aca5-48fc-ad33-f282e9eb5355-image.png

                    Sounds to me like perhaps we should switch the Cloudron package to SearXNG

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                    girish
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                    @jdaviescoates ah, thanks for the info! I wanted to switch as well but was trying to find out why they forked before I made the switch.

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                    • girishG girish

                      @jdaviescoates ah, thanks for the info! I wanted to switch as well but was trying to find out why they forked before I made the switch.

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                      LoudLemur
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                      @girish said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

                      @jdaviescoates ah, thanks for the info! I wanted to switch as well but was trying to find out why they forked before I made the switch.

                      Thanks and thanks @jdaviescoates . SearxNG looks like the better choice.

                      For me the problem is that though the front-end is Free, all the "search" engines are censorious, Big Data monstrosities. I really hope we are able to find a Free search that can be run on Cloudron.

                      Just to remind everybody, there is a request by JoDuMonT here for YaCy:

                      https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2715/yacy-decentralized-web-search?_=1674639379272

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                        The package is switched to SearXNG now.

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                        • girishG girish

                          The package is switched to SearXNG now.

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                          RazielKanos
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                          @girish
                          So, does it update automatically, or do we have to reinstall?

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                          • RazielKanosR RazielKanos

                            @girish
                            So, does it update automatically, or do we have to reinstall?

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                            @RazielKanos See https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8782/searx-searxng . If you can reinstall, that is best.

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                            • girishG girish

                              @RazielKanos See https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8782/searx-searxng . If you can reinstall, that is best.

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                              @girish
                              it spits out an error message
                              a5cdea0d-a8a3-4985-8605-fadc5bf828d6-grafik.png

                              I am talking a look into the setting.xml, but just wanted to let you know

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                              • RazielKanosR RazielKanos

                                @girish
                                it spits out an error message
                                a5cdea0d-a8a3-4985-8605-fadc5bf828d6-grafik.png

                                I am talking a look into the setting.xml, but just wanted to let you know

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                                RazielKanos
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                                @RazielKanos
                                seems to go away the moment you change something in the interface settings 🙂

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                                  RazielKanos
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                                  I take the CHatGPT.py file is not in this pack yet? since we have to edit out API token directly into this file

                                  https://github.com/searxng/searxng/pull/2009/files#diff-115ac0f5d4f9cd5a7587487da3fb0ceaebe354c547c8c607019bd688917c6a57R315

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    @RazielKanos See https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8782/searx-searxng . If you can reinstall, that is best.

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                                    @girish said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

                                    If you can reinstall, that is best.

                                    Why so?

                                    I updated, seems to be working fine.

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    • RazielKanosR RazielKanos

                                      I take the CHatGPT.py file is not in this pack yet? since we have to edit out API token directly into this file

                                      https://github.com/searxng/searxng/pull/2009/files#diff-115ac0f5d4f9cd5a7587487da3fb0ceaebe354c547c8c607019bd688917c6a57R315

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                                      girish
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                                      @RazielKanos if you scroll all the way down that pr, it shows the settings.yml config

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                                        @LoudLemur said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

                                        can sometimes provide better results than an actual search engine.

                                        I am not sure if I would subscribe to this statement. Chatgpt for sure is impressive and depending on the use case the output can be quite helpful (a college of mine let it design and refine a dnd campaign for example), but there is also a lot of nonsense in the output.

                                        For example I asked it what are things to do in my local city (which is a very search engine like question) and four out of five places did not exist and for the fifth it did lump together the local sports club and the public swimming pool.

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                                        wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                                        #19

                                        @fbartels said in SearxNG has an instance with ChatGPT experimental support:

                                        For example I asked it what are things to do in my local city (which is a very search engine like question) and four out of five places did not exist and for the fifth it did lump together the local sports club and the public swimming pool.

                                        This is a very real and understated / overlooked problem.
                                        I don't understand this massive rush into ChatGPT.
                                        Just because some AI engine spouts some bollox does NOT mean it is true.
                                        I fear greatly for the loss of intelligent discrimination of fact vs fiction that is about to crush us all.

                                        If there was one sensible law to be introduced, it would be that all output from ChatGPT (and similar) should be labelled this might well be bollox - an AI engine generated it.

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                                          marcusquinn
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                                          Wow, much nicer UX:

                                          • https://dev.searxng.org/screenshots.html#config=Firefox+1920&test_case=search_general

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                                          Development https://brandlight.org
                                          Life https://marcusquinn.com

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