Adding domains with an "ö" is not supported?

[jayonrails]

Hi,

I have a domain, let's say it's about the dish "Döner" - I took both domains:

donnerdöner.de
donnerdoener.de

The domain with the "oe" could be added easily, the domain with "ö" cannot be added.
I get the error message

Invalid domain

DNS provider shall be Hetzner - the domain already exists on their side, also NS is working fine.

What can I do here to get the domain with "ö" running?

Best
Jay

[nebulon]

Domains with such characters have to be entered with punicode. In your case this would be xn--donnerdner-kcb.de There are converters like https://xnode.org/page/Punicode_Converter available

I guess we should add conversion automatically, so maybe you could create a feature request for this?

[jayonrails]

Thanks for the hint. I was now able to add the domain and also created a feature request:

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/9175/convert-domain-names-to-punicode-when-needed

[scooke]

I use this https://www.punycoder.com/
Somehow you bought an IDN but never noticed that it is listed sa donnerdöner.de? You should read up more on IDN @jayonrails, it's quite interesting. Even using the punycode version there are sometimes limitations, depending on the software. But it's pretty cool, isn't it!

[girish]

Tricky domain. I wouldn't even know how to type that letter with english keyboard.

[robi]

@girish said in Adding domains with an "ö" is not supported?:

Tricky domain. I wouldn't even know how to type that letter with english keyboard.

Special characters are entered with ALT codes, such as Alt-3333 for .

[girish]

@robi I think that's a Windows thing maybe? Maybe Mac too.. Atleast on linux, it doesn't work.

[ccfu]

I would only register a domain with an Umlaut if I had also registered the same domain without (as in this case Döner and Doener). Besides the keyboard issue, a lot of people don't realise that these are two different domains (because oe is just an alternative form of ö) or don't even know that ä, ö, ü can now be used in URLs.

[robi]

@girish said in Adding domains with an "ö" is not supported?:

@robi I think that's a Windows thing maybe? Maybe Mac too.. Atleast on linux, it doesn't work.

Right, each OS is a bit different, even among window managers. Option key for Macs and Linux has a few options:
Linux - Unicode: one of three methods should work:

• Hold Ctrl+⇧ Shift and type U followed by up to eight hex digits (on main keyboard or numpad). Then release Ctrl+⇧ Shift.
• Hold Ctrl+⇧ Shift+U and type up to eight hex digits, then release Ctrl+⇧ Shift+U.
• Type Ctrl+⇧ Shift+U, then type up to eight hex digits, then type ↵ Enter.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Entering_special_characters

[jayonrails]

The thing with the "Döner" was just a joke and an example for a domain name with the Umlaut "ö" in it. I thought it would be more understandable than lame duck examples.

[girish]

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/9175/convert-domain-names-to-punicode-when-needed/ is the feature request for this thread.

[jayonrails]

@girish I know, I have posted it here: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/66205

[girish]

@jayonrails whoops, didn't notice!