Matrix Homeserver Sliding Sync

[girish]

Interesting, wasn't aware. I guess we can package this as part of the app itself.

[andreasdueren]

@girish Yes please, this would be great!

[lukas]

@girish any plans when this will happen?

[girish]

@lukas There is no ETA . AFAIK, the whole thing is still unstable. Even the routes are called unstable - https://github.com/matrix-org/sliding-sync/tree/main#same-hostname . If you just want to play with the idea, it looks like this can be launched in a separate VM or equivalent, not sure. I have to say there is not a whole lot of information other than that github page.

I also don't quite understand why it is totally separate from synapse. Should this not be just a part of synapse? Sync is like so basic... why would it be running in a separate domain, somewhere else. I think it will help us make some design decisions (for packaging) based on what the answers to these questions are.

[girish]

I also checked the Android Client "Element X". It has 1k+ downloads. I don't think this is meant for general use yet. For reference, the Element client has more than a million.

Happy to be corrected.

[infogulch]

Matrix just announced Matrix 2.0 with sliding sync:

https://matrix.org/blog/2023/09/matrix-2-0/

Commentary including the Matrix project lead, Arathorn: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37599510

[benborges]

I think it's clear that in the future the Sync won't be a proxy on another domain but rather integrated ?

[infogulch]

Yes I believe that's the long term plan, but it will take a while to get there.

[r369]

Yes, any update about sliding sync? Is must be implemented and it was ages since it was out @girish

[jdaviescoates]

@r369 said in Matrix Homeserver Sliding Sync:

it was ages since it was out

Not really. It's hasn't hit 1.0 yet and is still considered unstable afaict. It's not yet a standard part of Matrix.

[andreasdueren]

Still not v1
However I stumbled across these instructions for self-hosting in case anyone is interested.

[jdaviescoates]

This is now production ready, see https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12515/element-x-call-and-server-suite-are-production-ready

[potemkin_ai]

@jdaviescoates not yet features complete and still with many bugs and issues thought

[girish]

Per https://matrix.org/blog/2024/10/29/matrix-2.0-is-here/ this is integrated now

[jdaviescoates]

@girish all sounds very promising indeed.

I just went to see if I can now connect to my Cloudron Matrix using Element X... the QR Code login thing at least doesn't seem to have been implemented on Cloudron yet:

And trying to login in manually doesn't seem to work yet either:

Hopefully in the coming months such things will begin to work? Do we know what we're waiting for? I guess maybe for 2.0 to actually release and packaged?