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I am tired of InvoiceNinja's limitations - no true multi-domain support for multiple companies (10) that it allows.
I had always want to try out building a cloudron package, so I will try to build one for InvoiceShelf.
Looks very doable. The structure is:

• 4 files: CloudronManifest.json, Dockerfile, start.sh, logo.png
• Base image (cloudron/base:5.0.0) already has PHP 8.4, Node 22, Composer, Apache, Supervisor — no installing dependencies
• Cloudron provides MySQL, Redis, email, cron, TLS, backups as addons - just need to declare them in the manifest
• Reference package: Akaunting on git.cloudron.io is an identical pattern (Laravel invoicing app)
• Dev workflow: cloudron install → cloudron logs -f → cloudron update

@joseph Yep, this was my installation

Thank you very much @joseph can't thank you enough.

I changed

export LOCAL_OLLAMA_ENABLED=true

to

export LOCAL_OLLAMA_ENABLED=false

And the application starts.

Shall I try updating it now?

@nebulon said in OpenWebUI Error after Updating - Bad file '-': yalm: found invalid Unicode character.:

If you disable local ollama ( in that .env file) does the app start?

Sure, I will check!

@james
Thanks for having a look.
Here is the .env file

# Change this to false to disable local ollama and use your own
export LOCAL_OLLAMA_ENABLED=true

# When using remote ollama, change this to the ollama's base url
# export OLLAMA_BASE_URL="https://<remote-ollama>"

# When local ollama is enabled, this is location for the downloaded models.
# If the path is under /app/data, models will be backed up. Note that models
# can be very large. To skip backup of models, move the models to a volume (https://docs.cloudron.io/volumes/)
export OLLAMA_MODELS=/app/data/ollama-home/models
# export OLLAMA_MODELS=/media/ollama-vol/models

Hi, I am unable to update my OpenWebUI since version 0.6.11
(it is 0.6.14 now).
I get the following in the logs during update:

Jun 11 15:16:10 => Copying static files
Jun 11 15:16:10 => Enabling local ollama
Jun 11 15:16:10 => Ensure directories
Jun 11 15:16:10 => Loading configuration
Jun 11 15:16:10 => Setting permissions
Jun 11 15:16:10 Error: bad file '-': yaml: found invalid Unicode character escape code
Jun 11 15:16:12 => Healtheck error: Error: connect EHOSTUNREACH 172.18.18.231:8080
Jun 11 15:16:22 => Healtheck error: Error: connect EHOSTUNREACH 172.18.18.231:8080
Jun 11 15:16:32 => Healtheck error: Error: connect EHOSTUNREACH 172.18.18.231:8080
Jun 11 15:16:40 => Healtheck error: Error: connect EHOSTUNREACH 172.18.18.231:8080
Jun 11 15:16:50 => Healtheck error: Error: connect EHOSTUNREACH 172.18.18.231:8080
Jun 11 15:17:00 => Healtheck error: Error: connect EHOSTUNREACH 172.18.18.231:8080
Jun 11 15:17:10 => Ensure directories
Jun 11 15:17:10 => Copying static files
Jun 11 15:17:10 => Loading configuration
Jun 11 15:17:10 => Enabling local ollama
Jun 11 15:17:10 => Setting permissions
Jun 11 15:17:11 Error: bad file '-': yaml: found invalid Unicode character escape code
Jun 11 15:17:12 => Healtheck error: Error: connect EHOSTUNREACH 172.18.18.231:8080

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I would be grateful for any assistance or pointers please.
Thank you!

Hi, I just installed Documize.
In the settings > general, I am stuck with the 'Conversion Service URL' which is mandatory.

What must I fill in there? The documize documentation talks about installing a docker image of Conversion

I just entered 'https://localhost:5010/' and crossed my thumbs, it seemed to work. Is this correct?

Thank you for any pointers.

@ValueShopperUSA This appears to be the SaaS version where you are on Trial plan.

I think you need the self-hosted version (like on Cloudron) for this to work.

@girish Hi Girish, I have this 'too many empty directories' issue on one of my Nextcloud instance and I haven't a clue how to deal with it. My last backup was on 6 Jan and I am getting nervous about it. Cloudron means I don't have to worry about backups, and lately, I an getting sleepless about this.

Can you please add an override for this error? Not having backups is IMHO, a more serious issue for me than any empty directories.

Also, running the command shows me directories that clearly are not empty in anyway. I don't know what else to do - I can't delete these directories precisely because they are not empty.

Any other pointers would be very helpful!

I have added LiteLLM to the App Wishlist, please upvote!
https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/13141/litellm-openrouter-self-hosted-alternative-proxy-provides-access-to-openai-bedrock-anthropic-gemini-etc?_=1737171723819

Paging @cpa

Hi @Lanhild sorry to hijack this thread, but can you please have a look at packaging LiteLLM please?
LiteLLM already has Langfuse built in, so this might be interesting to you.

Link to App Wishlist: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/13141/litellm-openrouter-self-hosted-alternative-proxy-provides-access-to-openai-bedrock-anthropic-gemini-etc?_=1737171723819

LiteLLM was earlier integrated into OpenWebUI and was marvellous.
It was removed recently and I had posted about it here: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/11957/litellm-removed-from-openwebui-requires-own-separate-container

Now, having successfully tested the docker, wish it could be on Cloudron and can act as proxy for all of our AI applications that require API access to any AI provider.

This would be fantastic - one application to rule them all!

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• LiteLLM: LLM Gateway on Cloudron - provide model access, logging and usage tracking across 100+ LLMs. All in the OpenAI format.

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• Main Page: https://www.litellm.ai/
• Git: https://github.com/BerriAI/litellm/
• Licence: AGPL
• Docker: Yes, Docker Packages
• Demo: 7 Day Enterprise Trial
• Discussion/Community: Discord

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• Summary: LiteLLM exposes an OpenAI compatible API that proxies requests to other LLM API services. This provides a standardized API to interact with both open-source and commercial LLMs.

This can be a self-hosted alternative to OpenRouter.
Any application - including OpenWebUI (on CLoudron) can use this OpenAI compatible API endpoint to access over 100 integrations from OpenAI, Amazon Bedrock, Anthropic models, Google Gemini models, Grok, Deepseek, etc.

• 100+ LLM Provider Integrations
• Langfuse, Langsmith, OTEL Logging
• Virtual Keys, Budgets, Teams
• Load Balancing, RPM/TPM limits
• LLM Guardrails

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• Notes: This would make any of the AI on cloudron or outside (e.g. Khoj) very powerful, bridge the divide between models as they are released and afford us access easily through a single API.

This is superpower, AI on steroids, giving us access to leverage the comparive advantage of each AI model (e.g. Claude for programming, Deepseek for cheapness and Bedrock for longer context window and memory, etc.

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• Alternative to / Libhunt link: OpenRouter.ai
• Installation Instructions: https://docs.litellm.ai/docs/proxy/docker_quick_start

I have this backup issue with two instances.
In one with Nextcloud, it is empty directories.
In a Wordpress one, it is executable files.
Hoping to tackle this two this weekend.

Don't understand why the devs will devote time to these side quests that won't be used much at all, when everybody is already in a slack / discord or other forum.

Hi, Can we have some idea of how many times, various apps are installed in the cloudronverse? Can be an approximate number too - below 100, 100 to 500, 500 to 10000, 10K to 50K, etc.

If we can track this over time, we can find changes in popularity and other trends too.

Also, we would love to see a ranking by number of installations to find the most popular and least popular apps.

Thank you!

@girish Beg to differ, this is not just another notes/link/bookmark app!!

This will be so useful for those who collect a lot of stuff from around the internet - researchers and such.
Once you use something like Mymind which automatically organises your messy collections, you will never go back.

Reminds me of one more thing I wanted to ask as a feature request, will post one there too: Can we have statistics of how many installations of each of the apps are in the cloudron ecosystem (surely you must have those stats), and can we rank them by popularity please, somewhere?

Thank you!

@girish I did run that, and got a very long list of files - php, png, svg on a wordpress site along with all the plugins.

Absolutely no idea how to proceed.

But for now, I will disable the apps shown the list and try, thank you!

This is an alternative to raindrop.io too.

@girish sorry for the dumb question, but where do I run the 'find' command? I tried running it in the terminal of the nextcloud/wordpress app, but I got the 'no such file or directory' error.