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https://forum.cloudron.io/post/113774

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@joseph said in Hetzner: DNS Transfer to new Console:

Is Hetzner not using https://dns.hetzner.com/api-docs#operation/GetRecords anymore ?

A new API has been implemented and it has all been migrated to Hetzner Console.

Hetzner has launched a new DNS system that is in open beta. Starting November 2025, new zones cannot be created in their existing infrastructure which is supported by Cloudron right now. In May 2026, the old platform will be disabled and the zones will migrated.

https://docs.hetzner.cloud/reference/cloud#dns

@girish is there already a plan to implement the new Hetzner DNS API?

@nebulon I would like to bump this up again as I stumbled upon transfer.sh by dutchcoders. How did you resolve your "I need to transfer some files and don't want to use Surfer" thing?

You could just use Ente export feature to do the exact thing that you are wishing for.

@girish said in Where does Cloudron fit best?:

Is there a way to apply?

Just go to the website and click the chat icon in the right corner

Hi,

I had two backups failing with the following error message:

Error when checking for disk space: Error running df: df exited with code null signal SIGTERM

There is a longer log file available, I decided not to post it because it contains many personal data.

Manually running" df" works:

root@my:~# df -h
Filesystem                                Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
tmpfs                                     6.3G  5.0M  6.3G   1% /run
/dev/sda1                                 542G  154G  389G  29% /
tmpfs                                      32G     0   32G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs                                     5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
/dev/sda16                                881M  189M  631M  23% /boot
/dev/sda15                                105M  6.1M   99M   6% /boot/efi
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/5bfc5b4af703b35c3f90d5b25c3e9ff21f15e5d5ce621bdda4fdae95a9d70483/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/5c04b379d9defb1aab7a0fb23c41e05e59bd9214b0a7218a8ad7d054f0c19ebd/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/b092df4556b485d8ca33d9b7cdfb85d714e541ee412f5a068c8589b6993b57c3/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/820ba9d448424da8475ecc13d75ca9135651a60079858509bf6c47c738dcfc3e/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/4819e4856897fdb4a402a7540225f96c1eccde47430fae06e55cb3e62ae20f73/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/756986cae0363d1a99bad1c0414545476c0296638ee1a4ddf365e7036cbeabb5/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/896278f255d26cbc5aa6af49ca082044403bdbfc37ec9fd9d7a4931d16d4c648/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/ab6ab1ed3ca7105c02ccad86181837e4640c23f2330e1c0964d5212be06c4cc6/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/cb49570926eae6bde1c649854d4fde20e06f50129c532b2803ecbb20e2ab3a19/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/48e94a4d331dbcdee2fcce29c7432d1b9dad060d360cdce4cedb77cf37207abb/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/bf032ec6452b2eb4c8ff22ef82cc0b2373624f37cd7c91ef460f6b753fef7125/merged
u444094@u444094.your-storagebox.de:/home  1.0T   94G  931G  10% /mnt/cloudronbackup
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/5120d060ea583b21992fa8646e2ecddfd0b423f882a6d4a58468fafa5130ad68/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/38616af4f1bd995db643be3320bd1133cc44f202ce24ccde8155ca6aaaf3077b/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/e9e74e342a0ae84cc75bb66e006cc7e2028fd0a38199946992f9d26d6d84fc2c/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/97aeb95ba1bf882ad3385b31586ac0327fcd9d8a6af17c40f640fa8e3fc4bc4e/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/e769955350916a2813065b8689d2ec376b58309a969657981d08ec326c0c708a/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/96497cfe070e769a7483152e73068d4057613235ce4a971960a087ef5dbea3ca/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/4eba9b4664699e233d359b1027e325c06036f7aff03abca52e2718d5c0c74ba8/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/bc7ab1f83bcaffe1cf253d7ea660da4a2593f413506eb3159f249be9f0fa483d/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/45ccc493c4611b203d94bd92bec5275bb31a759941ce6899e0e30cd272a59120/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/136df1941cf7b4a5a2ebcccfc120fd3947e0e9faab209c302d242b73ed03bbcf/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/9481a8414742f8ea2cd6deb7a8cc681b180bbcb5eeefd7024842a456775eed97/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/f0c9041019437d4b8dfda8e8a452aa8dccdbfe232d3d1afb2eb0ec7296c251c3/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/2df56fc95b14d78174ae4d08cac74286d7980bd869ef493ac2d3ec0689727491/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/61bd9942b8907e3bc35ee036527388c0a475dc76248b7acdd3a26791923dafb8/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/9d9df6b80159995bd6180a03d851106a2c20e674e5c26e8a4a621f0fa2116ba4/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/c4fe70a7b14226b2ebe80208a57f4aaff7b936ee7d5359d51a37ad24a078978d/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/a7e91cb3158b191877758584b4347e8a971bd6b2f13d10664ac4b0c2f90ce8d3/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/20d2000198ed9839c17a6b3f19fcb3c068be7db0c7700837066f6c19901dde45/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/f3b17bcf2af309293fbf72dec721eb07588a03aab3db8177e30fc2e5fa54d755/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/8b896d9c33a3e2f1580fa1f2fb6d563c87b3e21c63cb7cf906e94cd67c08bdc5/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/13b1fb36de69d16d74f2b0586a2f5994162ad474e6ddbd92e825b770e000daac/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/438e6e14125d10ba6005509fde562e24461f905b7e7251eaee566f7708699cf8/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/6ada7feb1b0b54476bc7a00cb964a5105804d7f028a18d4714747cca4550be72/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/cca34a852250f97c7641c8c24257acab9fcc89ffeb3308e77fa99adbfefcd0f3/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/0cbdac8ad03fea9590aab73629f92c0e2d9a0d1dce619cad15c9ea72623d7509/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/b88dc85e813a93dcc5eeeb2942a6e908957ffdeacd81418c9bebecd13f9647d7/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/172c8fb0cf8ff6b6bae47934f1b17daf8f3fe4e954481f30f3f0ba592e462c85/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/519627495dfe6c1bc337eb7c192a548baafd3a17cbcc4a20e6d203d08e2fbb9f/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/8684fbff0facb34457506138ecb1209bb88a0d860b22fb9622529b60834723c9/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/4d8f54b378fecab054cdf1c5c611d17ce697b4367f6288a4b86008b924f5292e/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/0dc61a4ef7b019d2369ad3923012754bd4ae69b02e8598b9e07887fe397f135b/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/4c3bf9f4fce530434596076af09855b1572b644306682c976ae71c27f2d449fc/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/bf6598504ceb3848be1179f87f96feeea07b125f4a8fde950489cccec97e8442/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/cd098053e7a4822f019008353f92c27ee053f4a22359924f833842f61824acdd/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/eee59edad8a8c1085bea590f0efd4b664383588e55ccfb69abdfd9e9f0bd8276/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/21b8f3982c9191cf54aa2c4aadaf3e666101f47df4f28b1db269569232269ee2/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/0301c9b4a450aed2b26a6271b5a1c282c58616bdb38e268016d2c247b4414285/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/2118881573bbbc5b0eddcd6ccaf956fa5d9ca277e99386f2636f47e13629964e/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/c77f723445a5674d38d77b38d02bc101276da53eaaa7d8463ebce4c7970055fe/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/1132014c9618ab73577e4158ef8a3bbb1382371eab284fba202cc756319c7471/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/73e657750500f6df86fa5e6272f7f8d2564f6ea0bb747566f1193490e11bf841/merged
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/fa5e18ba7d507202835778f78463fad041332e1210f6e23767b1fba13fa4cc35/merged
tmpfs                                     6.3G   12K  6.3G   1% /run/user/0
overlay                                   542G  154G  389G  29% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/b6b60f320fcd2d38182cc82df5aff9bcb847c6e5c94c7dbf38e692339f3772f9/merged
root@my:~#

Same for lsblk:

root@my:~# lsblk
NAME    MAJ:MIN RM  SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
sda       8:0    0  560G  0 disk
├─sda1    8:1    0  559G  0 part /
├─sda14   8:14   0    4M  0 part
├─sda15   8:15   0  106M  0 part /boot/efi
└─sda16 259:0    0  913M  0 part /boot
sr0      11:0    1    4M  0 rom

I am running the following system:

Platform version is

v8.3.1 (Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS)

cloudron-support --troubleshoot
Vendor: QEMU Product: Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996)
Linux: 6.8.0-56-generic
Ubuntu: noble 24.04
Processor: AMD EPYC 7B13 64-Core Processor
BIOS pc-i440fx-9.0  CPU @ 2.0GHz x 10
RAM: 65846508KB
Disk: /dev/sda1       389G
[OK]	node version is correct
[OK]	IPv6 is enabled and public IPv6 address is working
[OK]	docker is running
[OK]	docker version is correct
[OK]	MySQL is running
[OK]	nginx is running
[OK]	dashboard cert is valid
[OK]	dashboard is reachable via loopback
[OK]	box v8.3.1 is running
[OK]	netplan is good
[OK]	DNS is resolving via systemd-resolved
[OK]	Dashboard is reachable via domain name
[WARN]	Domain example.com expiry check skipped because whois does not have this information
[OK]	unbound is running

Is there anyone else with the same situation or has suggestions on which direction I might get into the problem itself?

Best
Jay

Cloudron is not open source.

Thank you guys, I will have a look there!

HI,

I would like to use Calendar and Address book with Nextcloud.

@Package-Updates said in Nextcloud - Package Updates:

Migrate from LDAP to OIDC
Important: With the authentication provider change, you should use the Login with Cloudron button in the Nextcloud login screen. Nextcloud Clients on desktop and mobile may need re-authentication / re-setup .

Since the latest update in Cloudron, the login is OIDC-based.

How do I configure my mail client / calendar to work with that?

Best regards
Jay

The DNS BL ix.dnsbl.manitu.net get's shut down

https://www.heise.de/news/Spamfilter-DNS-Blacklist-Nixspam-stellt-Betrieb-ein-10248349.html

https://www.frankysweb.de/spam-blacklist-nixspam-abgeschaltet/

https://hostblogger.de/blog/archives/7353-Die-AEra-der-ix.dnsbl.manitu.net-geht-zu-Ende.html

therefore I need a new solution for my DNS BL. I would like to know which lists you are using and what your experience with them is.

Please only suggest free lists or one that are donation-driven; not paid / commerical.

Best
Jay

Same here. Please let me know how I could contribute.

Thanks @girish for the changes in the docs and letting me know. I will take a look as soon as the time allows and may get back to this topic at a later date.

Hi,

I see the following disk usage at my system info page:

• docker 35.17 GB
• platformdata 16.53 GB
• docker-volumes 5.75 GB

That is around 56 GB of disk usage for...I don't know yet. That's what I wanted to find out!

I assume that docke-volumes is where personal data from me is stored,

and docker might be docker images that have been downloaded to the server and are stored locally, thus not being uniquely on my machine and can be re-downloaded from the Internet.

Am I right with those guesses?
What about platformdata?

Best

Jay

@jayonrails said in 33 GB of usage, 177 GB system space occupied - how to find ghost files?:

I remember that some file uploads to the Nextcloud system failed a few months ago and I think these might be still stored somewhere, where the application cannot find it, but still take space.

I was right on this one. I downloaded all the files that are present on the Nextcloud, deleted all the servers on the web interface and then re-synced from my computer. The ghost files are gone, it is now using around the 33 GB as I would have expected it.

Nextcloud is great tool, but sometimes does weird things. This is one example of being weird.

The issue is resolved for now, thanks for your ideas on it.

Thanks for your suggeestions, deleted files is empty on all users.

Thanks for the information, I will wait for one day for all the DNS changes to take place and then try again.

root@258e2da2-ade7-441e-a8b2-11897f7d8acf:/app/code# sudo -u www-data php -f /app/code/occ files:cleanup
0 orphaned file cache entries deleted
0 orphaned file cache extended entries deleted
0 orphaned mount entries deleted

This also didn't help. Recreating the index for all users also doesn't bring any change in the calculated used space.

Hi,

I am running the following setup:

• Cloudron v8.2.4
• Nextcloud package com.nextcloud.cloudronapp@4.23.4

There are a few users in Nextcloud, using 33 GB in total storage if you add up the usage that is shown at //settings/users

When I open up Cloudron system information and let it calculate the disk usage, it shows me that Nextcloud is using 177.08 GB of storage on the Cloudron server.

When running

sudo -u www-data php -f /app/code/occ files:scan jay

I get the following output:

root@258e2da2-ade7-441e-a8b2-11897f7d8acf:/app/code# sudo -u www-data php -f /app/code/occ files:scan jay
Starting scan for user 1 out of 1 (jay)
 +---------+-------+-----+---------+---------+--------+--------------+
| Folders | Files | New | Updated | Removed | Errors | Elapsed time |
+---------+-------+-----+---------+---------+--------+--------------+
| 233     | 6319  | 0   | 6547    | 0       | 0      | 00:00:09     |
+---------+-------+-----+---------+---------+--------+--------------+

User "jay" is the only one having more than just a few KB of files.

I remember that some file uploads to the Nextcloud system failed a few months ago and I think these might be still stored somewhere, where the application cannot find it, but still take space.

How can I find those?

Best
Jay

Thanks for clarification. This works, but doesn't solve the problem that I cannot add new domains to Cloudron with the error

queryNs ESERVFAIL example.com

Any idea on that?