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@charlesnw said in Working on many apps in this list and others - who wants to collaborate ?:

Is that an acceptable license?

AFAIK so long as it's FOSS it'll be OK. But I think eventually each individual package will need it's own license so they can be added to the Cloudron app store (as surely that is the goal here, right?)

@charlesnw said in Working on many apps in this list and others - who wants to collaborate ?:

All of the apps I've selected are FOSS.

Great! Although they don't even need to be. What @joseph meant is that your packages of them need to have a FOSS license added to them.

@mouse77 if you buy or transfer a domain to one of supported domain dns provider (see https://docs.cloudron.io/domains/#dns-providers ) it's all automated. Personally I use Gandi

@alejandrolengua have you already created the A record as instructed? If so it's probably just a matter of waiting for propagation like it says. Can be really quick, can take hours (or technically even days but that's pretty rare)

@SansGuidon said in /r/selfhosted are not big Cloudron fans:

Keeping it secure, private, and user-friendly long-term — that’s the real challenge for me.

Cloudron does it all for you. Well, at least well enough for many of us here.

But if you want to outsource it someone else, fair enough.

To be honest it took me a while to make the leap too, but I'm glad I eventually did, even though I've had the odd deliverability to M$ issue due to their shitty systems.

@mouse77 said in New user sign up and docker questions as well best practices, tips:

do I have to use a subdomain and park my VPS server under it? Also later on when I install and self host other apps/software, I would need subdomains for that as well?

No and no, but also sort of yes.

Let me explain:

When setting up you enter a domain (or a subdomain if you wish) and the your Cloudron Dashboard will be installed at my.(sub)domain.tld

Once it's all set-up you can then add as many domains as you wish and then install apps at either the top level domain, or at subdomains.

e.g. when setting up my Cloudron I entered https://uniteddiversity.coop as my domain, and so my Cloudron Dashboard is at https://my.uniteddiversity.coop

But I've also added loads of other domains like e.g. https://bettermedia.uk (where I've installed a WordPress), plus apps on subdomains like https://forum.bettermedia.uk (where I've got a Discourse).

But I also have previously installed a Cloudron at e.g. https://status.uniteddiversity.coop and then for that my Cloudron Dashboard was https://my.status.uniteddiversity.coop

So long as you use a supported domain dns provider (see https://docs.cloudron.io/domains/#dns-providers ) Cloudron will set-up all your DNS records for you. It also sorts out Lets Encrypt SSL certificates.

@SansGuidon said in /r/selfhosted are not big Cloudron fans:

the web mails I see listed seem outdated in term of UX and look more like toys than like serious alternatives to webmails clients I'm used to.

Yeah, this is the biggest issue IMHO. None of the open source webmail clients are really up to scratch. But they are all usable. I mostly use SnappyMail but it does have some glitches and every now and then I go over to Roundcube for some reason or another. Nextcloud Mail isn't bad either. And we also have SoGo mail. It's easy to use any of them. Or just use a Desktop app like Thunderbird.

@SansGuidon said in /r/selfhosted are not big Cloudron fans:

What do you use for yourself?

Cloudron. No email server administration required. It's all just baked in.

@girish said in How does Cloudron work? What does it do? etc :

@jdaviescoates Thanks, file.pizza delivered! I have re-uploaded to https://videos.cloudron.io/videos/watch/206fc4b7-9641-4453-8be0-67450f2574b1

FYI the link to the slides given there is broken.

@SansGuidon each to their own, I guess.

I've been self hosting all my email since starting to use Cloudron about 5 or 6 years ago and it most works great

I'm not sure, but I think most of us here are self hosting our email

(and the fact that we can use Cloudron for that is one of its USPs - none of the other alternatives offer a full email server etc out of the box).

I'm personally not too bothered about email security given

1. unencrpyped emails are like postcards - anyone can read them in transit, and
2. nearly all emails are read by Big Tech anyway (just because even if you're self-hosting most people you're emailing won't be - they'll be using Google or M$).

Email and security don't really go together. If you need to communicate something securely, don't use email.

@nebulon said in New user sign up and docker questions as well best practices, tips:

apps on Cloudron are in the end running as docker container on the system.

But, to be clear, all Cloudron apps (which you can indeed install with a few clicks using the GUI - you almost never have to use the command line with Cloudron!) are using docker, but they are all specifically designed and packaged for Cloudron, you cannot just run upstream docker images on Cloudron.

If you want to understand how Cloudron actually works, I'd recommend watching this video:

https://videos.cloudron.io/w/206fc4b7-9641-4453-8be0-67450f2574b1

See also my notes on that video here: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/21183

@nottheend said in Syncing S3 Storage Backups with Cloudron Nextcloud?:

Has anyone solved this problem already? What tools or scripts are you using to keep these backups synchronized?

You could probably achieve something like what you're after just by using SyncThing to sync your Nextcloud S3 buckets to somewhere else?

I'm not doing that, but I do use it to sync my local Music and Book libraries up to Hetzner Storage Boxes which are then mounted as Cloudron Volumes into the Storage of Navidrome and Calibre Web. It works great (so much better than rsyncing which is what I was doing before).

Yeah, I mean, I don't see how Immich is really any different to Calibre Web, Navidrome, Jellyfin etc etc that all allow for custom paths for the location of their libraries and just routinely reindex that location occasionally

Apparently this is one of the best open source models yet:

https://qwenlm.github.io/blog/qwen3/

@andreasdueren said in Storage management in Immich?:

@jdaviescoates nope, since we don't have access to the dotenv file

Sounds to my like @staff just need to add a symlinked .env file to the package that we can add config options too using the File Manager, just like many other packages already have?

Could we not just use the config settings shown here to point at mounted Cloudron Volume? https://immich.app/docs/guides/custom-locations/

@luckow said in What's the largest Cloudron you have seen?:

From this use case we learned that the Cloudron user interface doesn't have nice features for such large numbers of users, mail addresses and group filters. It works, but it's not that nice to use.

Yeah I don't even have a large number but clicking through pages of users (or domains) is annoying. Even though search also exists.

Hopefully @staff will address such issues in the current redesign.

As a bare minimum I want to be able to choose to display many more rows per page (e.g 25, 50, 100, 500 ie up to and including all users, or all domains etc)

https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/#data-directory says:

Add the external disk as a volume named seagate.

and

mountpoint and nfs volumes may or may not work depending on the destination filesystem.

But at the same time https://docs.cloudron.io/storage/#default-data-directory says:

Do not use a Cloudron Volume as storage location for the directories below. Set up fstab or systemd mount manually.

So that's about as clear as mud

@jdaviescoates said in yt-dlp Web UI:

PS while searching for the above I also came across this https://ytdlp.online/ which seems to work well too for the purposes I had in mind

But I have another use case which https://ytdlp.online/ doesn't fulfill: using yt-dlp to directly download media into a Cloudron Volume connected to my Jellyfin, which I think yt-dlp Web UI would be great for

(I already do a similar thing with the Transmission app - download torrents directly into a Cloudron Volume which is mounted to my instance of Jellyfin - but sometimes - e.g. right now - I find things I'd like to watch on my TV using Jellyfin that are on YouTube but for which I can't find any seeded torrents, so right now I'm downloading this YouTube playlist to my laptop, just so I can then upload it all to my Cloudron Volume, which just seems silly really)