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@necrevistonnezr said:

If you could only do something about the sorry state of webmail clients…

@necrevistonnezr I've not looked at it yet, but this could be promising on that front:

https://github.com/suitenumerique/messages

@robi yeah, it's not entirely dead given:

Starting today, Cal.com will relaunch all free and open-source code as Cal.diy under MIT License, widely considered the most liberal and popular open-source license. This new community edition is only for self-hosting and use at your own risk.

https://www.cal.diy/

That probably still meets my own needs. Perhaps a new package is needed for that?

Or perhaps we'll all migrate to @ekevu123's TymeSlot app?

https://tymeslot.app/
https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/15212/tymeslot-better-meeting-scheduling-than-cal.com

@andreasdueren fair enough.

I guess it was really for any app (community or otherwise) where people are worried that auto updates might break things. e.g. some people have auto-updates for Nextcloud turned off as plugins often break things.

Saying that, it's so easy to roll back to backups on Cloudron it's a relatively low risk for most people I'd suggest.

@andreasdueren but this thread is about OpenClaw and it sounds like that often has breaking changes.

There is also all the code that powers https://desec.io/ here https://github.com/desec-io/desec-stack

@creative567145 said:

ideally somebody needs to test the updates before pushing them to all instances.

I've not started using any Community Apps yet myself, but I'd suggest for anything important a good pattern might be to keep auto-updates turned off and to test them first in a cloned app before applying the updates to production

@nebulon sounds like over reliance on confused AIs to me.

Oh, wow, I've just learned (via the people at https://mosa.cloud/ ) that Docs (edit: well, not Docs, but the same people, Docs is just one of the apps in La Suite) is actually replacing the whole bigtech stack are are also developing Video meetings, email clients, drive etc too! https://github.com/orgs/suitenumerique/repositories

@james said:

I suspect that this might happen in the backup process and thus changing the amount of files.

I think that's actually unlikely in this case because I'm pretty much the only active user of this instance and it backs up while I'm asleep.

But I'll try to give enabling maintenance mode a try to see what we can see...

@paradoxbound said:

I am waiting for a fix to Full-text search, I was told it should go into 9.2?

You mean for email accounts with loads of mail? (that's what I remember reading about somewhere)

@james said:

Would be interesting see what happens if Nextcloud is put into maintenance mode, so no files get changed by users, a backup is created twice and these two backups are compared against each other.

How would that help with this odd file count mismatch?

I'd guess both of those backups would be the same, but that the integrity checker would still have this odd file count mismatch.

But also, how to actually compare to rsync backups with each other given neither of them are single downloadable files

What am I missing?

@LoudLemur

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jdaviescoates said:

@LoudLemur said:

The latest updates in Cloudron really helped.

Presumably especially the Skills?

@scooke said:

the forums or help have been very very weak, or actually non-existent (no one knows what went wrong and how to fix it).

This is a very good and important point. Aside from mostly Just Working (and apps that are maintained and updated promptly), one of the best things about Cloudron is how amazingly good the support is, both from staff and from the rest of the users here on the forum.

@timconsidine said:

it could be a useful tool

Definitely needs training more though as it often gets stuff very wrong.

@doodlemania2 said:

I could start maybe looking to package the Rust one

RustFS has already been packaged by the Cloudron team. It's in the app store. But note that it's still in Alpha.

@seeker said:

So a platform where I could test might be nice. Additionally an platform where people could get their feet wet.

Yeah, I think lots of people here use other platforms just to test out/ use apps that aren't on Cloudron yet.

@seeker said:

Backups are important and cloudron does more on that front than others based on when I searched many years ago. Not perfect but it used to be better than the alternatives.

Yeah, I've not looked at it in much depth, but I think that's still the case. The way Cloudron works makes backups, restores, updates, and migrations mostly Just Work.

Additionally, afaik none of the other offerings have a full email server (that apps are pre configured to use) either. Whereas not only does Cloudron have Haraka built-in, but I tihnk @girish is one of the top contributors too.

Again, it's already packaged, I think.

I'm on the verge of reporting all your reports as spam @loudlemur

I get that you are coming from a good place and trying to be helpful, but imho you're just creating noise and these reports are not helpful given so many of them are obviously wrong.

@LoudLemur this project is obviously dead. The website no longer exists and there have been no updates on the repository for over 4 years.

Please try to be more mindful about your postings.

@LoudLemur it's already packaged. I'm really not sure of the value of these reports, they appear to mostly be way off the mark.

@LoudLemur it's already packaged and was literally built for Cloudron. Your monster evidently needs a lot more training.