@eganonoa said in Jitsi session recording:
Yeah definitely re the neat mp4 and then upload, though for that we just use OBS to record the recording on playback, and then upload.
To be clear, you record using BBB, and then record the mixed together BBB playback using OBS?
Sounds like a good flow.
Does anyone have any good ideas on how I could most easily use open source tools (ideally self-hostable) to allow people in my local community to map all the already existing solidarity economy entities (local co-ops, social enterprises, organic farms, farmers markets, etc etc) in our community?
@girish said in Time to package Mailtrain V2?:
The new mailtrain requires multiple endpoints (3 in fact) - https://github.com/Mailtrain-org/mailtrain#preparation . Cloudron currently cannot handle such a setup.
That's no longer the case 
@marcusquinn said in Ghost: Urgent Security Update:
App updates really should not be tied to Cloudron updates either
Agree, but it seems they quite often are (I've hit this a couple of times recently)
@marcusquinn sounds like you need to update Cloudron
@eganonoa said in Jitsi session recording:
If you really want a service that has good recording in-built I would suggest BigBlueButton. For conferences and webinars where you want to have a really useful record, the recording feature in BigBlueButton is stellar. You can start and stop as you wish and it will seamlessly put it together into one stream. It records the chat and slides (if any) and in playback you can manipulate to focus on what you want. And you can immediately forward to a particular slide and the discussion around that. There's also a failsafe if you forget to actually press record, which allows you to resurrect the whole thing if you catch it in time (i think 24 hours). It's really an unbelievably good recording solution and one that is properly built into the server, as a major feature, rather than an add on.
That's all true, the recording and playback experience on BigBlueButton is exceptional.
But it's also true that BigBlueButton doesn't spit out a nice simple downloadable .mp4 video that you can just upload wherever (like Zoom does)
The great BigBlueButton recording and playback separately records and then syncs and mixes the webcams, presentation, audio and chat and allows people watching the playback to scroll back and forth and toggle the views on/ off. But you can only do that on the server via Greenlight (the BigBlueButton front end) not on YouTube or whatever.
I'm a member of https://meet.coop which is a co-op offering BigBlueButton
@marcusquinn Fixed in 5.2.3, which is what Cloudron is on ( and has been for a while, I think since v soon after it was available )
@humptydumpty said in After updating password no credentials needed to login:
Try logging in in a private window (or with all extensions disabled).
Tried all that, and same in mobile browsers too.
@Vikas-jk said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:
Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked herehttps://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314
Hosted Outline is paid, that doesn't apply to self-hosted. Outline is also free (as in freedom) open source software too.
@yusf said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
@jdaviescoates said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
I don't think Akaunting (nor any other open source web accounting software I'm aware of) will automatically import bank feeds etc either
Paid plugin will https://akaunting.com/apps/bank-feeds
Thanks!
Now, I'm very interested!
@timconsidine sounds like you may be hitting similar issues to those described here
@micmc said in Submit Cloudron to Ubuntu for Publication:
Personally I, and a lot of Ubuntu users, hate SNAPS
I hate them when they haven't been packaged well (which seems to very often be the case), which means I now opt for a good old non-Snap format if available.
e.g. the Snap for Musicbrainz Picard, which is a totally awesome piece of software, is totally unusable for me because all my music is on a mounted external (well, it's actually an internal drive, but it's not the same drive as the OS is on) drive which the Snap can't access at all. See my twitter rant (and some good responses explaining why this is the case from people who seem to know what they are talking about)
https://twitter.com/jdaviescoates/status/1526524692193869825
I've had similar issues (that were at first utterly baffling and extremely frustrating) due to using Snaps too (e.g. GIMP).
@girish said in After updating password no credentials needed to login:
export LISTMONK_app__admin_username=admin
export LISTMONK_app__admin_password='sBd@ni7fjTo2J3KGRKprGm@YXPxXh7FkJzhatxGgvKJ69gAKA^gu4zfBMYjjGfk62nzW@M!W8VwBepYDtPp%QApFVELKmtwkY63LJYVv@DAsMHwxucNHYFjRxT&'
Odd. I can reproduce it over and over again.
Just did so again:
@micmc found it via Hetzner as it's one of the apps they install if you install their "collaboration tools" app, see:
https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/apps/list/collaboration-tools
@klawitterb that's great, thanks! But I wanna get Outline in the App Store.
Hopefully @staff can take a look at both these custom Outline packages and do whatever needs doing to get them into the store
@timconsidine said in Jitsi session recording:
VDO.Ninja (was OBS.Ninja) https://vdo.ninja is a nice system worth checking out.
Looks like another good option/ tool to have on Cloudron! Someone should create an App Wishlist post!
But then this pw works fine too:
apwwith%&
So perhaps it a combination of having % ending with & and length as well? 
But it can't be that either because this also works fine:
apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&apwwith%&
I've got to collect children from school now so will have to stop testing, hopefully @BrutalBirdie will be able to figure out what's going on!
@BrutalBirdie seems it has something to do with the % too (or perhaps that is the main culprit?)
Anyways, if I remove the % from:
sBd@ni7fjTo2J3KGRKprGm@YXPxXh7FkJzhatxGgvKJ69gAKA^gu4zfBMYjj*Gfk62nzW@M!W8VwB*epYDtPp%QApFVELKmtwkY63LJYVv@DAsMHwxucNHYFjRxT&
It works with single quotes (but not without).
But with the % included it breaks the auth even with the single quotes.
@BrutalBirdie said in After updating password no credentials needed to login:
@jdaviescoates
So just to make it clear.
Single quotes work now, even with the&char?
Sometimes.
Using this as a password works:
'apwwith&'
But this still turns auth off completely:
'sBd@ni7fjTo2J3KGRKprGm@YXPxXh7FkJzhatxGgvKJ69gAKA^gu4zfBMYjj*Gfk62nzW@M!W8VwB*epYDtPp%QApFVELKmtwkY63LJYVv@DAsMHwxucNHYFjRxT&'
@BrutalBirdie said in After updating password no credentials needed to login:
@jdaviescoates it should work with single quotes tho even with the & char.
It doesn't. Adding single (or double) quotes makes no difference whatsoever in the testing I just did.
Hmz, scrap that. I think that was because I was simultaneously experiementing with quotes around admin too.
Wait, now I'm really confused.
Using this as a password works:
'apwwith&'
(hence why I crossed that bit out above)
But this still turns auth off completely:
'sBd@ni7fjTo2J3KGRKprGm@YXPxXh7FkJzhatxGgvKJ69gAKA^gu4zfBMYjj*Gfk62nzW@M!W8VwB*epYDtPp%QApFVELKmtwkY63LJYVv@DAsMHwxucNHYFjRxT&'
@BrutalBirdie yep, it's the &
Having an & at the end of the pw turns off auth.
Having an & somewhere in the middles seems to stop the app starting at all.
@BrutalBirdie said in After updating password no credentials needed to login:
Did you use single quotes ' or double quotes " or no quotes at all for the password?
You mean in the /app/data/env.sh file?
I just edited what was there, i.e. no quotes at all:
#!/bin/bash
# https://listmonk.app/docs/configuration/#environment-variables
export LISTMONK_app__admin_username=admin
export LISTMONK_app__admin_password=howveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryodd
export TZ=Etc/UTC
# Do not change the values below
export LISTMONK_app__address="0.0.0.0:9000"
export LISTMONK_db__host="${CLOUDRON_POSTGRESQL_HOST}"
export LISTMONK_db__port="${CLOUDRON_POSTGRESQL_PORT}"
export LISTMONK_db__user="${CLOUDRON_POSTGRESQL_USERNAME}"
export LISTMONK_db__password="${CLOUDRON_POSTGRESQL_PASSWORD}"
export LISTMONK_db__database="${CLOUDRON_POSTGRESQL_DATABASE}"
export LISTMONK_db__ssl_mode="disable"
I thought perhaps it was a length thing but howveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryodd works too, so doesn't look like it.
And just to double check that, in case that wasn't as long as the previous one this works fine too:
howveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryoddhowveryodd
So does sBd@ni7fjTo2J3KGRK
Hmz
@BrutalBirdie yeah, I know.
Just been playing around again.
If I change the pw to this:
sBd@ni7fjTo2J3KGRKprGm@YXPxXh7FkJzhatxGgvKJ69gAKA^gu4zfBMYjj*Gfk62nzW@M!W8VwB*epYDtPp%QApFVELKmtwkY63LJYVv@DAsMHwxucNHYFjRxT&
Somehow that turns off needing to login at all!
Changing it to something this like howveryodd works fine.
Then, changing it back to sBd@ni7fjTo2J3KGRKprGm@YXPxXh7FkJzhatxGgvKJ69gAKA^gu4zfBMYjj*Gfk62nzW@M!W8VwB*epYDtPp%QApFVELKmtwkY63LJYVv@DAsMHwxucNHYFjRxT& turn auth off again.
WFT?!?
I'm not sure what's happening here, but it seems after editing the password in /app/data/env.sh now anyone can just click login over on https://listmonk.uniteddiversity.coop and it doesn't even ask for an credentials at all!?!?!
Ah, yeah, I see now having read a little more about Jibri that is basically works the same way as how recording locally with OBS works: another (OBS or Jibri) user joins the meetings and it gets recorded by that user.
And, yeah, given it can only record one meeting at a time anyway, and hence it takes a whole other Jibri instance per meeting one wants to record, I think for now the easiest option is for me to just record locally using OBS.
@nebulon said in Jitsi session recording:
@jdaviescoates the jitsi main app would still run on Cloudron, however only the jibri component, which per-instance can only do one recording at a time, will have to be off Cloudron.
I'm a little confused.
Are you saying I could use my Cloudron Jitsi Meet app in conjunction with Jibri set-up using https://github.com/switnet-ltd/quick-jibri-installer as shared by @luckow ?
And/ or something about why it's not possible to add Jibri to the Cloudron Jitsi Meet app?
Thanks!
@humptydumpty said in Jitsi session recording:
@jdaviescoates Maybe you can use a desktop recording software like OBS for now. From there, you can upload it to Youtube if you want.
Thanks, I started playing around with OBS whilst testing out the OwnCast app.
I just tried using it to record a jitsi meeting too. Seemed to work but couldn't quickly work out how to stop the audio feedback - do you happen to know?! (I guess using headphones would do it, but there must be another way)
Edit: I resolved my feedback issues by checking the Control audio via OBS box:
@benborges you can do that using the File Manager for the Volume
@nebulon said in Cloudron LDAP access for external apps?:
Agree, let me lock this thread in favor of the other one.
Doesn't look like you did ever lock it
But perhaps now turn this into a question and mark it as solved
@nj said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:
PS: Still no time to look into auth using Cloudron ProxyAuth
praying that you'll find the time! Hopefully then @staff will be able to take it from from there get this app into the App Store! (perhaps they could take a look at adding the ProxyAuth too? )
Edit: or perhaps another better/simpler(I've no idea if it's either, rieally! 
) option would be to connect the outline app to the Cloudron LDAP Directory Server https://docs.cloudron.io/user-management/#directory-server= ?
@luckow hmz, thanks, that does look very good, but I'd much rather do it on Cloudron so I've got LDAP, backups, updates etc.
I wonder if @Benoit knows if adding Jibri to the Cloudron Jitsi package is already in the pipeline given he (they https://medias-cite.coop/ ) sponsored the package?
Hey @staff is there any plan to get Jitsi Meet recording working in the Cloudron package?
I really want to start recording some of the calls/ meetings I'm having.
And, in the meantime for now, whilst the package doesn't include recording, what's the best/ easiest way to do a recording?
Thanks!
This is a lightweight NodeJS collaborative Whiteboard/Sketchboard which can easily be customized...
https://github.com/cracker0dks/whiteboard/
https://cloud13.de/testwhiteboard/
Integrates with WebDAV/ Nextcloud too.
@fbartels said in Amazing app to help with backups and saving space!:
For domain style buckets to work with Cloudron, the Cloudron app would need to support domain aliases.
Sounds like perhaps @staff should add the aliases feature to the Minio app
@ekevu123 just thinking out loud, but I guess you could either try installing Nextcloud into a Cloudron LAMP app or forking the existing Cloudron Nextcloud app to create a custom Cloudron Nextcloud app that uses MySQL instead.
@BrutalBirdie said in Migrating matrix.org and Element apps on Cloudron:
@hustler
Did you never seen the backup and restore features?
If not, you are in for a treat
https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#restore-cloudron
Also, RaspberryPi is not official supported as far as I remember
Exactly, so the standard Cloudron backup and restore doesn't apply as can't restore to a Pi. Hence why they are asking here what to do in case anyone knows (I don't)
Just spotted this and figured I'd share in case anyone is interested
https://owncloud.com/events/tech-talk-how-to-join-the-infinite-scale-beta-program/
@JUVOJustin said in Configure ldap groups:
authLdap
not sure, but there are a bunch of group related issues
https://github.com/heiglandreas/authLdap/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+groups
(I think that's the same plugin, right? Not double checked)
@LeeW said in Ghostboard.io - Analytics for Ghost blogs:
I like Ghost for many reasons but am still nervous about it for reasons I can't explain.
Same.
Mostly, I think, because doing basically anything with Ghost seems to require messing with code.
But also due to the fact they basically decided to do no work making their editor work on mobiles, so you can't really do anything on mobile.
@ApplegateR indeed, https://www.cloudron.io/get.html still currently says:
Create a fresh Ubuntu Focal 20.04 x64 server and run these commands
But the linked to guide https://docs.cloudron.io/guides/upgrade-ubuntu-22/ does talk about upgrading. Although looks like it might be a work in progress as it also says e.g.
If you are still on Ubuntu 20, you must first upgrade to Ubuntu 20
Calling @staff to look into this and clarify
@BrutalBirdie +1 that's what I'd do.
@LoudLemur said in Lemmy: Federated alternative to reddit:
Plebbit
Create an App Wishlist post for it!
@MooCloud_Matt said in Make it easier to use your own app:
@girish
I think the big deal is just read only fs.
Been able to select directory to be R+W and not just App/data can be a good idea on the simplify packaging for Cloudron.
But that would break how Cloudron works, making apps much less secure, and much harder to maintain ( backups, updates, migrations)
@ekevu123 try the plugin first? I think that may be the only way properly migrate users (as opposed to just their data)
@necrevistonnezr said in Why change email server location?:
If by "access" you mean a webmailer, you have to pick one of the webmailers in the appstore (Roundcube, SoGo, Rainloop, SnappyMail...).
... and install it at the (sub)domain of your choice.
@mononym I'd create a new with list post just for that if I were you
I just played around with this again and this seems to be working for me:
$config['session lifetime'] = '10080';
It's unclear if $rcconfig or just $config should be used or if either would work, but the latter, i.e. just $config, appears to be working for me.
Also in previous attempts I was missing the 's around the 10080, and from the formatting of other settings in the customconfig.php I figured I'd try '10080' and then it worked.
@WiseMetalhead looks very promising thanks
Although I note:
!! NOT READY FOR PRODUCTION! DO NOT USE TO STORE YOUR ASSETS !!
This project is under heavy development, there will be continuous functions, features and api changes.
@timconsidine said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
Natwest
Allow me to suggest divesting from banks that still fund fossil fuel projects
NatWest has been lending to some very questionable fossil fuel friends.
And it's not just a little here and there, we’re talking about $13 billion in the 5 years since 197 countries agreed to drastically reduce their greenhouse gas emissions in the Paris Agreement.
See
https://bank.green/banks/natwest
I recommended Starling Bank for business banking and Nationwide for personal banking
@timconsidine said in Akaunting - Free Accounting Software:
If Akaunting does support this, then it's interesting, otherwise (for me anyway) it doesn't work well.
I've not double checked, but I doubt you can submit anything anywhere with Akaunting, just keep track of and prepare figures.
Similarly, I don't think Akaunting (nor any other open source web accounting software I'm aware of) will automatically import bank feeds etc either (I don't mind submitting my own accounts and tax returns, but I can't live without automatically importing transactions!)
I use FreeAgent (10% off a subscription with that link) which works very well for my circumstances.
Lots of people seem to use Xero too.
@potemkin_ai said in Bug in adding new domain:
it looks more like a bug to me, not a question, or am I missing something?
I think they mark them as a question just so they get the 'unsolved' badge and as a way to keep track of issues that need solving (and so they can be marked as 'solved' once the problem has been sorted).
@scooke yeah, I definitely think I'm going to migrate to a fresh 20.04 VPS (or maybe even a dedicated server ) instead of just updating my existing 18.04 one.
Now I'm wondering how to do that with minimum downtime?
OK, so I've managed to sort myself out.
What worked was this:
Now it's back up and running!
I think this is all due to the fact that my music volume mount was created before how mounting volumes works got updated and improved.
But now that it's broken I'm not sure how to get it fixed.
Previously I had used these instructions to manually mount my Hetzner Storage Box to my Heztner cloud VPS, and then set-up the volume on Cloudron using the mountpoint.
https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/storage-box/access/access-samba-cifs
But now Cloudron automates CIFS stuff.
I've hit this problem after updating to 7.2.2 broke one of my volume mounts. No idea how to get the app out of the error state.
@jdaviescoates said in Upgrading to 7.2.2. has broken my volume mounts (and hence Navidrome too):
Currently also have this when going to System info:
Still got it
