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@humptydumpty even before we took control over fire, our world felt on fire.

@iamthefij your right; and I don't think it's a big issue (maybe only for true believer of ENS

@iamthefij
to give you a concrete case to chew on it;
is you host a Cloudron for and behind individuals, organizations or countries authorities who decided to ban .io (British Indian Ocean Territory) domain purposely or by mistake in their firewall; then in the case of Cloudron.io, you might miss updates; which would be a security flaw.

@nebulon understood;
it's just in my testing environment (home) I'm use to connect my container via container_name:port
without exposing the port.

such as OpenWebUI connect to my Searxng because

---
services:
  open-webui:
  searxng:
    container_name: searxng

Now I understand this is not viable into a multi-domains, multi-services environment

Do you think something similar is possible and viable ?

I delete and install a new Cloudron but did'nt use the --setup-token
Can I change it by running any kind of command ?

now it is fixed
what I did ?
I went eating

@nebulon no

I have another case with a similar issue

in n8n I want to access searxng as a tool to my AI.
in the n8n container I'm able to do query via curl to my searxng via the http://containerID:8888
but inside n8n it say the service is down (refuse to connect)

curiously if I use https://searxng.domain.tld it work

As Robi mentionned; does cloudron implemented a firewall internally ?

or maybe it is more a DNS issue since journalctl -u docker return me a bunch of DNS error:

Mar 01 05:22:50 cloudron dockerd[795]: time="2025-03-01T05:22:50.303058317Z" level=error msg="[resolver] failed to query external DNS server" client-addr="udp:127.0.0.1:56347" dns-server="udp:127.0.0.53:53" error="read udp 127.0.0.1:563>
Mar 01 05:23:23 cloudron dockerd[795]: time="2025-03-01T05:23:23.818259449Z" level=error msg="[resolver] failed to query external DNS server" client-addr="udp:127.0.0.1:44377" dns-server="udp:127.0.0.53:53" error="read udp 127.0.0.1:443>
Mar 01 05:23:42 cloudron dockerd[795]: time="2025-03-01T05:23:42.069168113Z" level=error msg="[resolver] failed to query external DNS server" client-addr="udp:127.0.0.1:53714" dns-server="udp:127.0.0.53:53" error="read udp 127.0.0.1:537>
Mar 01 05:23:59 cloudron dockerd[795]: time="2025-03-01T05:23:59.865583114Z" level=error msg="[resolver] failed to query external DNS server" client-addr="udp:127.0.0.1:39963" dns-server="udp:127.0.0.53:53" error="read udp 127.0.0.1:399>
Mar 01 05:24:48 cloudron dockerd[795]: time="2025-03-01T05:24:48.532971799Z" level=error msg="[resolver] failed to query external DNS server" client-addr="udp:127.0.0.1:39152" dns-server="udp:127.0.0.53:53" error="read udp 127.0.0.1:391>
Mar 01 05:25:03 cloudron dockerd[795]: time="2025-03-01T05:25:03.514238819Z" level=error msg="[resolver] failed to query external DNS server" client-addr="udp:127.0.0.1:58625" dns-server="udp:127.0.0.53:53" error="read udp 127.0.0.1:586>
Mar 01 05:26:24 cloudron dockerd[795]: time="2025-03-01T05:26:24.759362556Z" level=error msg="[resolver] failed to query external DNS server" client-addr="udp:127.0.0.1:40413" dns-server="udp:127.0.0.53:53" error="read udp 127.0.0.1:404>
Mar 01 05:26:39 cloudron dockerd[795]: time="2025-03-01T05:26:39.816576683Z" level=error msg="[resolver] failed to query external DNS server" client-addr="udp:127.0.0.1:55967" dns-server="udp:127.0.0.53:53" error="read udp 127.0.0.1:559>

since around an hour
I'm unable to reachable Cloudron's Dashboard
I sincerely did all these: https://docs.cloudron.io/troubleshooting/
everything seams fine except for nginx; in the logs I have this:

Mar 02 11:23:40 cloudron nginx[71387]: 2025/03/02 11:23:40 [error] 71387#71387: *11451 open() "/home/yellowtent/box/dashboard/dist/mime-types/application-x-yaml.svg" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 172.69.151.227, server:>
Mar 02 11:23:41 cloudron nginx[71387]: 2025/03/02 11:23:41 [error] 71387#71387: *11451 open() "/home/yellowtent/box/dashboard/dist/mime-types/application-x-yaml.svg" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 172.69.151.227, server:>
Mar 02 11:23:41 cloudron nginx[71387]: 2025/03/02 11:23:41 [error] 71387#71387: *11451 open() "/home/yellowtent/box/dashboard/dist/mime-types/application-x-yaml.svg" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 172.69.151.227, server:>
Mar 02 11:23:42 cloudron nginx[71387]: 2025/03/02 11:23:42 [error] 71387#71387: *11451 open() "/home/yellowtent/box/dashboard/dist/mime-types/application-x-yaml.svg" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 172.69.151.227, server:>
Mar 02 11:43:35 cloudron nginx[71387]: 2025/03/02 11:43:35 [error] 71387#71387: *11605 open() "/home/yellowtent/box/dashboard/dist/mime-types/application-x-yaml.svg" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 172.69.151.228, server:>
Mar 02 11:43:36 cloudron nginx[71387]: 2025/03/02 11:43:36 [error] 71387#71387: *11605 open() "/home/yellowtent/box/dashboard/dist/mime-types/application-x-yaml.svg" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 172.69.151.228, server:>
Mar 02 11:55:35 cloudron nginx[71387]: 2025/03/02 11:55:35 [error] 71387#71387: *13620 recv() failed (104: Connection reset by peer) while proxying upgraded connection, client: 172.68.234.215, server: flow.sotthi.com, request: "GET /res>
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my apps are still working

@nebulon thanks for the tips
and do you mind looking at this one ?
https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/13320/accessing-the-openwebui-api/5?_=1740050615827
I'm unable to use the APP ID to connect to it.

thanks

so it only works for me in n8n
if I use the external domain (https://openwebui.domain.com/api/models)
it does'nt work with App ID: http://e704da83-fe32-3032-133f-01ba96ab147b/api/models

@joseph what failed me

and thanks for testing on your side

• I fail at understanding properly API

so;
how did you generate the API key ?
under JWT Token?

and you connected only with the API key; did'nt use the JWT ?

ok a reboot fixed the situation

I'm unable to reboot, remove, change de domain, ...

An error occurred during the uninstall operation: Addons Error: Error tearing down postgresql. Status code: 500 message: connect ECONNREFUSED ::1:5432

i tried to start I new instance of OpenWebUI and during the install it gave me the same Postgres Error

My server seams fine.

My goal is to connect OpenWebUI via n8n

I tried with
App ID: http://e704da83-fe32-3032-133f-01ba96ab147b/api/models
and also https://openwebui.domain.tld/api/models
but none of them works

I use the JWT Token with:
Authorization:
Bearer YOUR_API_KEY

and saddly it doesnt work.

does anybody succeed ?

I use Qdrant with DiFy and n8n (hosted on my Cloudron)

nothing very complex todo (I means to selfhost Qdrant with a Docker-Compose)

@marcusquinn said in qdrant - open-source vector database written in Rust - alternative to Pinecone:

@marcusquinn Qdrant is now available as an option in the Meow Apps AI Engine plugin for Wordpress, meaning that using a self-hosted vector database is possible - as opposed to Pinecone's free tier, that is deleted after 7-days of inactivity.

I did'nt see where it is mentioned and how it is used

@JLX89 how goes your adventure so far?
Did you succeed with WordPress? If yes I'm eager to have more detail as I'm planning a similar workflow but was exploring Markdown with Git and Quarto or Hugo.

I was looking if someone, somehow Cloudron implemented Filtron and apparently not
it would be nice to have this, even as a sidekick instance.

Otherwise for now; I limit the query via Cloudflare with their ZeroTrust service

Hopefully it will be easy to fix and it's only on my side; but ...
after an update, which seams to be done successfully

my apps runs but I have no Cloudron Dashboard
my.domain.tld is blank; even with Chrome and Safari (which I never use)

Server: Ubuntu 22.04LTS
Cloudron: 8.0
rebooted after update

Currently; I use Obsidian with Hugo
it is not the best but it get the job done.
I prefered it to all other solution because I could integrate GenAI in it.

@LoudLemur I love the idea of AnyType
But How do you use it as a CMS like it is possible with Notion ?
They say Publishing Web is a Requested Feature, not yet done.

• https://doc.anytype.io/anytype-docs/miscellaneous/feature-list-by-platform#highly-requested-features