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I can’t keep up !
Great to see all the innovation, would be nice to have to get on top of stuff before the next generation comes along 🥴

@3246 nice simple approach, good for end-users.

Limited online so have not checked - have you excluded apps which have licence restrictions, no managed service. Forget which, but there are a few.

Weird
I don’t have any of that.

Right now I can't seem to browse to anywhere and it keeps asking for the UI pw for every zite. Missing plugins.

• Strange
  I have been clicking away randomly without any real issues - just sites that seems to have no new content for 5+ years

• ZeroBlog (on original home page) : no new content since December 31, 2019

• I haven't been asked for the password once after initial login

Changing it removes that magic.

My homepage keeps track of where I visited
Not sure of new blog posts as I haven't joined any yet

It's the lifeblood of the Zeronet experience.

But it is so darned ugly !

Will do some more investigating, but back on trying to make Dify work in Cloudron

The original home page is still available as link from my home page - maybe that will provide the blog post stuff ? Will try to check

released v1.0.76

• 'data' folder was not missing - just mapped directly to (i.e. included in /app/data) - but changed to /app/data/data - "clumsy" but more conventional for zeronet maybe

• Tor enabled in / out

I dislike the conventional 0net approach of hosting a default standard home page from another site - confusing to new users in my view - so I made my own home page which is clearer (but can be fleshed out or adapted further if needed), with links to the standard sites included for conventionality.

Highly recommend a new install in new container for testing (and live use) as many small changes. 1 line install :

curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "zeronet"

@creative567145 thanks for reporting

I should have clarified moltbot is unfinished
And may never be finished as I am packaging openclaw

Apologies if this caused you wasted time

@robi investigating ....

@robi sorry for confusion
"CCAI" as a whole is not gone
Just the original browser-centric version requiring users to put auth creds in my site (yuk!)

CustomAppGateway lives on, to install CCAI-P and individual apps.
https://customgateway.appx.uk

This will live for a while, definitely for a month after 9.1 is released, maybe as long as 3-6 months after 9.1.

pushed a new version v1.0.63

Test site : 191CazMVNaAcT9Y1zhkxd9ixMBPs59g2um

tweaked : v1.0.64

@IniBudi I didn’t make a video as the process is simple, and Cloudron 9.1 will take over soon.

As @humptydumpty (thank you for stepping in) said, the process is guided.

Some important points :

• CCAI original version is dead : site now directs you to CustomAppGateway which is the new start point
• CustomAppGateway gives you choice of installing individual apps from there, or installing CCAI-P which is maybe more useful if installing multiple custom apps
• for individual installations, CustomAppGateway shows a catalogue, pick an item, popup shows a description and a curl one line installation command. Copy that and paste into your desktop/laptop terminal. It will :
  • prompt for your Cloudron, e.g. my.domain.tld
  • prompt for a token (create this in your Cloudron dashboard | Profile | Tokens
  • prompt for app location, eg myapp.mydomain.tld
  • invoke the installation : note that it will likely complete quickly but your Cloudron needs another couple minutes to install the app
• for multiple custom apps, use CustomAppGateway to install CCAI-P : same process as above.
  • you will then have an app in your Cloudron which can install further apps (displays the same catalog as CustomAppGateway but no more curl download links)
  • store your creds in /app/data
  • pick an app and watch installation proceed
  • wait for completion notice.

Note : your auth creds are now always input in your control (your desktop or your own Cloudron environment), never in a 3rd party site.

Let me know if any other questions

@Elephant
away for <1 week, will on return

@rmdes your docker image is tagged latest, so I don't think any changes needed to listing on CustomAppGateway. But you probably know that. Just advising I haven't changed the listing.

@girish said in Update on community packages:

Depending on how many packages

my CustomAppGateway has ~25 apps, and there are more currently out there not added to it, and with 9.1, I would expect the numbers to double at least.

I have no hesitancy with deferring 'app discovery' in favour of getting the core functionality available and working.

I feel we will need a discovery place of some kind, relying on a forum post in an AppWishList topic might be viable as short and medium term. But catalogue / CUR / "awesome" style git package is likely needed longer term. And it's more polished / prettier

Released v0.0.27 fixing python script issue (reported by @zonzonzon)

@LoudLemur thank you

• the tokens : this kinda reflects the "journey" that CCAI went on. Initially it was browser-only ... and not user's site. I acknowledge users' cautions about this. Hence recommending a short-lived token disposable for use in CCAI open browser

Then we had CCAI-P deployed on your own cloudron, and interacting with your own Cloudron. In this case a multi-use long-life token was OK and so recommended. I think the quote you included in your question is from CCAI-P.

Then CustomAppGateway got rid of browsers completely for initial install and you enter a token into the binary on your local device. So not needed to use single-use short-term token. But hey everyone's paranoid these days so no harm in doing so.

I don't recognise the need for a 3rd token, but it might an academic question, as Cloudron 9.1 will make all this redundant. A much smoother and less problematic security approach, because it's all "on platform"

• RO vs RW : it needs to make changes to your Cloudron, so RW.

• pretty icons : that all comes down to the app being deployed. CCAI-P uses a similar but deliberately different logo to Cloudron.
  Let me know which apps are not rendering a nice icon, and I can look at it.

Cloudron :

CCAI / CCAI-P :

Funkwhale now on CustomAppGateway, alongside Indiekit

Funkwhale and Indiekit on CustomAppGateway

@girish awesome, thank you so much.
Very smooth and integrated in UI

So, making sure I understand it correctly, for a CustomApp, the packager really just needs to add CloudronVersions.json to their repo (in addition to CloudronManifest.json, Dockerfile etc.) ? Neat !

You said in a separate post you would defer the question of a catalogue of custom apps : is that still the thinking ?

TBH, with your neat approach, I am questioning whether a catalogue is needed. Every custom app (well, 99.999%) has a topic in the forum's AppWishlist category, and the packager can just post a message there with the repo details, including the relevant CloudronVersions.json file.

released v0.0.6
plugin installation fixed for installing from local (just download from marketplace and then install the local plugin package file)

Investigating the direct marketplace link