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@micmc thank you
Windows build now fixed and shortly to be added to repo as installable file.
Easier for people to try out.

@girish no extra api needed.

In fact, possibly not enough used, and architecture needs review.
It's currently all browser tabs apart from the apps list, which is an api call.
I did it that way so apps could be launched in tabs inheriting the browser credentials.
But actually maybe I should have done it with more use of api calls.

Especially as I am struggling to build the Windows version with this approach (not a Windows user), so some review of approach may be needed.

Might have to treat this as PoC and implement in a slicker manner.

Selfishly my itch is scratched for Mac, as it's quite fast, and separated out from other browsing.
But I simply will not have Windows defeat me so I will look at re-working the approach.

The Cloudron portal web UI is great ... except for when you need to switch rapidly between multiple apps to open terminals and file folders (largely due to My Apps list persistence issues).

So I made an alternative for personal use, scratching my itch, which might be of interest to others :

• local cross-platform Tauri/Rust app (Mac silicon .dmg available, Windows exe needs building, instructions in repo)
• authenticates with Cloudron standard login
• apps list always available in sidebar (quick access icons for app dashboard, terminal, file manager and launch)
• quick access tabbed views
• minimal clicking

sorry for heavy redaction but you get the idea

Repo at https://forgejo.tcjc.uk/cca/cloudron-portal-manager

@luckow what a fantastic project ! Wishing you very good luck with it (don't think I have an old pixel though).

@andreasdueren thanks, I didn't know about Nova

Public Repo : https://github.com/slfhstr/dual-pane-editor

@robi yes, lot of text editor apps provide horizontal or vertical splits ... but they are different views of the same file.

I'll organise a repo so people can test it.
Will post repo link here.

I've found that running cloudron-zoneminder over an extended period of time increasingly produces OOM restarts. So I have uninstalled it, and am looking into a fix.

Increasingly I need to edit 2 documents at the same time, side by side, or at least edit one while reviewing the other (e.g. Dockerfiles from different projects, package.json from different projects).

But I can't find a GUI editor which supports that (on Mac). The best I can do is use tabs, and flip between them, but that's not side-by-side, or have multiple windows and clumsily tile them next to each other, which is bastard-ised side-by-side.

The only "solution" is to use a bloated RAM-hungry IDE or Scrivener (not bloated but heavyweight). These also tend to work best when the files are in the same project folder, but the whole point is they are usually not, and I do not want them to be, even temporarily.

Very grumpily, I've decided they're not really acceptable solutions, and I am not open to a "workaround".

So with top showing biggest resource-drain as "frustration" at 200%, I made my own lightweight dual-pane-editor :

True lightweight side-by-side editing of unrelated documents, no tabs, no multiple windows, for .md, .txt, .json, .html or any other plain text files. Bonus : opensource and cross-platform.

top now shows frustration as 0.0%, running app at ~1.0% and joy at 100%.

Question(s) :

• is this worth sharing (GitHub or similar)?
• how do you clever Cloudronados address this issue ?

@robi
I don’t have a use case for it
I was just pointing those who might be interested to a resource

@LoudLemur this is a better vid from him - long-winded but clearer :

In the light of @canadaduane post, I should probably pull my package. I was planning to update it but was not aware of these issues.

Packaged as a Community App : install via Cloudron AppStore using https://communityapps.appx.uk/cloudron-notediscovery/CloudronVersions.json.

Interesting that it has MCP : not yet tested

Drawing functionality ok ... but not seen how to add text to one.

Nevertheless, very positive first impressions.
Once more tested, I will add to catalogue.

• Title: NoteDiscovery - Your Self-Hosted Knowledge Base

• Main Page: https://www.notediscovery.com/
• Git: https://github.com/gamosoft/NoteDiscovery
• Licence: MIT
• Dockerfile: Yes
• Demo: https://gamosoft-notediscovery-demo.hf.space/

• Summary: NoteDiscovery is a lightweight, self-hosted note-taking application that puts you in complete control of your knowledge base. Write, organize, and discover your notes with a beautiful, modern interface—all running on your own server.

• Notes: I've been using Obsidian, which generally is but I experienced some sync issues and lost some data. And I want to explore building a zettelkasten (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettelkasten)

• Alternative to / Libhunt link: Notion, Evernote, Obsidian Sync, etc etc etc
• Screenshots: images, brand logo
  

Total Privacy - Your notes never leave your server
Optional Authentication - Simple password protection for self-hosted deployments
Zero Cost - No subscriptions, no hidden fees
Fast & Lightweight - Instant search and navigation
Beautiful Themes - Multiple themes, easy to customize
Extensible - Plugin system for custom features
Responsive - Works on desktop, tablet, and mobile
Simple Storage - Plain markdown files in folders
🧮 Math Support - LaTeX/MathJax for beautiful equations
HTML Export & Print - Export notes as standalone HTML or print
️ Graph View - Interactive visualization of connected notes
️ Drawing editor - In-app sketches as drawing-*.png next to your notes — see documentation/DRAWING.md
Favorites - Star your most-used notes for instant access
Outline Panel - Navigate headings with click-to-jump TOC
AI Assistant Ready - MCP integration for Claude, Cursor & more

@d19dotca Glad it might be use

Rybbit's bot exclusion is not perfect, noticed a few. But more testing needed.

@d19dotca said:

Not to distract too much from the original topic, but do you have a Claude Skill or something that you use to help package apps for Cloudron?

I rely heavily on TRAE, with model selector set to Auto, so it's a little opaque on which models it uses. Probably the usual suspects. I've given up trying to tweak for 'best' because it does a good job, alongside context7 and SequentiaThinking MCP plugins.

@d19dotca it is running on my Cloudron deployed as a Community App using that url (https://communityapps.appx.uk/cloudron-rybbit/CloudronVersions.json)

I have only tested with a couple of simple sites, but it seems to be working ok. Feel free to install and test it out.

It has bot blocking :

Runs in 2Gb of RAM (vs the 4+Gb which Umami seems to need).

Having fallen out of love with Umami (excessive memory requirements), I decided to try Rybbit.

An initial community apps package is available directly from https://communityapps.appx.uk/cloudron-rybbit/CloudronVersions.json

After some testing, I will add it to the catalogue.

Resolved by restoring com.espocrm.cloudronapp@2.20.4
Then updating to Cloudron 2.20.5
Then updating to Cloudron 2.20.6 (EspoCRM 9.3.6)

I had a lot of apps going into error when 9.1.6 got installed on a reboot.
Upgrading to 9.1.7 (out of beta) fixed most of them, but EspoCRM needed this intervention.

Just FWIW if others are encountering the same.

@necrevistonnezr sorry - typo in UR (2 x 'l') :

https://communityapps.appx.uk/cloudron-docassemble/CloudronVersions.json

But @loudlemur said he did his own package and it might be more than my ALPHA proof of concept.

Anyone seen this ? And know how to fix ?

May 02 08:19:51 ----- Upgrade output -----
May 02 08:19:51 ==> Could not upgrade
May 02 08:19:51 ==> Failed to upgrade.
May 02 08:19:51 ==> Fixing up modules
May 02 08:19:51 Error: Your EspoCRM version (9.3.4) is not supported. Required version: 9.3.5.
May 02 08:19:52 ==> Data version is 9.3.4. Expecting 9.3.6
May 02 08:19:52 ==> Running upgrade script
May 02 08:19:55 ==> Failed to upgrade.