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Thanks @girish
I don’t remember ever having an app on the bare domain.
But then some days I don’t even remember my own name.

For a variety of reasons (mostly being, errr, mobile), I’ve hardly touched my desktop and even laptop in weeks.

I have been doing most things on iPhone, iPadPro and a cheap Android tablet.

What website building platforms/technology do people use on mobile devices ?

With much ️ for those well-intentioned advocates, please don’t suggest Wordpress (I still have PTSD ).

I have the competence to build in something like Hugo, but it’s slow being mobile, difficult without decent screen / keyboard.

Is there a suitable app (running on the phone) or am I effectively restricted to something like Ghost, Grav etc (although they’re not easy on smaller screens) ?

Interested in this experienced community’s valuable experience and tips.

Thank you - did that.
Weird.
Running in terminal echo | openssl s_client -servername domain.uk -connect domain.uk:443 2>/dev/null | openssl x509 -noout -dates gives me :

notBefore=Oct 21 16:25:54 2023 GMT
notAfter=Dec 29 16:25:54 2025 GMT

Logs in Cloudron still give me :

2024-12-16T17:40:31.065Z box:reverseproxy expiryDate: subject=CN = domain.uk notBefore=Sep 21 07:20:52 2024 GMT notAfter=Dec 20 07:20:51 2024 GMT daysLeft=3.569675173611111

BUT ... I see this is from the section at the end of the log file 2024-12-16T17:40:30.963Z box:tasks update 22265: {"message":"Checking expired certs for removal"}

Maybe I have been reading this wrongly.
Apps installed under domain.uk (sub-domains) appear to be renewing correctly.
But I don't have an app on domain.uk
Is this why it is showing as expiring in 3 days ?

I can understand that …. Except the direct terminal command shows a different expiry.

I’m not getting something and probably exposing my ignorance

No errors

Dec 16 09:03:35 box:tasks update 22263: {"percent":100,"result":null,"error":null}

Just states not before and not after dates for the domain

I have one particular domain cert expiring on Dec 20
So just 4 days away
I would have thought it would have renewed by now
Either automatically or as result of manual button click
But it fails to renew on clicking [RENEW CERTS].
When should it happen ?
Is manual renewal failure indicative of a problem ?

The provided Dockerfile does not seem complex, especially if the multi-stage build can be used (seems this is now a permissible approach for Cloudron).

@TheMeerkat did you upvote ?

Wow this can be super useful.
Awesome ️

Docker compose ?
To run on server which is not Cloudron ?

The app sounds like it could be useful (e.g. not just WhatsApp).

I tried Nostur and Damus but was disappointed with performance.
Also Nostr is so new there is little content (of interest to me - selfish, I know).
But maybe this package can help solve that.

@nostrdev-com is there a good guide to nostr components and environment? Not too technical but enough. I didn’t find anything yet.

And Plane is on V0.24

This may explain why they’re not available on Cloudron as official apps yet.

But …
‘’’
We're currently in the development phase of Twenty's alpha version.
‘’’
Typically Cloudron prefers apps to have made it to a v1.0 release. I didn’t see a releases page. (But looking on small screen).

No judgement applied, it may be great and growing, but when something is in alpha (not even beta) a lot of breaking changes can happen. That’s a big potential maintenance burden.

Good points and I agree.
I’ve tried most, and they don’t perform even a fraction as well as Cloudron.
Kudos and respect to @girish @nebulon @staff for all they do to make Cloudron the only viable offering of its kind.

I loved Budibase when it was earlier in its development phase, but they have taken it down a more focussed "intranet" model, which doesn't suit my needs. My own feeling is that Budibase and ERPNext/Odoo are better deployed on their own VPS, rather than a VPS running Cloudron, but that's just my opinion.

Just in case there's any misunderstanding, those who have [APPDEV] after the username are not part of Cloudron, and don't have a formal role in selecting apps to package for the AppStore. It just means they packaged an app for use on Cloudron, usually to scratch an itch, which then may or may not be added to the AppStore if Cloudron think it's useful for others and are happy to take on the updates.

Lots of good words & thoughts in this thread, but still a lack of specificity.

WHICH business app should be the focus of packaging effort ?

Or which top 3 ?

I sympathise but struggle with the lack of precision and generality of "we need more business apps".
Yes, there is the voting system, but frankly it's not reliable given that the forum UI "hides" the vote count / button until the user hovers over it in the right place - lots of forum users don't know or use it.
And scattered posts in different AppWishlist entries are not easy to aggregate interest & needs.

My feeling is that the unmet needs which clearly some pain or angst need to be more clearly identified in an easy-to-reference place. Maybe a new updated survey ? (yeah, I know, surveys, huh).

Itches will always be scratched, leading to some low-voted apps making it through, and that's fine, if the high-voted apps get some attention.

And a sanity note - while there are "app gaps", let's remember the plus points of the Cloudron platform, as many wanting new apps have graciously acknowledged.

@igaudette said in Memos is now available:

We already have Outline & Etherpad which are excellent so why add another one?

Outline is good but memos addresses another need.
Personally I don't like Etherpad but each to their own.
And that is the point.

Yes, if Coolify manages it as a quite new and still developing product, Cloudron definitely deserves to be there.

@igaudette I think you underestimate the maintenance obligations that come with adding an app to the AppStore. Cloudron takes this more seriously than other Platforms.
I looked at others but grew fed up with the number of unmaintained apps on things like Caprover, Yunohost, and even on the newer alterntives.