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@LoudLemur thank you

• the tokens : this kinda reflects the "journey" that CCAI went on. Initially it was browser-only ... and not user's site. I acknowledge users' cautions about this. Hence recommending a short-lived token disposable for use in CCAI open browser

Then we had CCAI-P deployed on your own cloudron, and interacting with your own Cloudron. In this case a multi-use long-life token was OK and so recommended. I think the quote you included in your question is from CCAI-P.

Then CustomAppGateway got rid of browsers completely for initial install and you enter a token into the binary on your local device. So not needed to use single-use short-term token. But hey everyone's paranoid these days so no harm in doing so.

I don't recognise the need for a 3rd token, but it might an academic question, as Cloudron 9.1 will make all this redundant. A much smoother and less problematic security approach, because it's all "on platform"

• RO vs RW : it needs to make changes to your Cloudron, so RW.

• pretty icons : that all comes down to the app being deployed. CCAI-P uses a similar but deliberately different logo to Cloudron.
  Let me know which apps are not rendering a nice icon, and I can look at it.

Cloudron :

CCAI / CCAI-P :

Funkwhale now on CustomAppGateway, alongside Indiekit

Funkwhale and Indict on CustomAppGateway

@girish awesome, thank you so much.
Very smooth and integrated in UI

So, making sure I understand it correctly, for a CustomApp, the packager really just needs to add CloudronVersions.json to their repo (in addition to CloudronManifest.json, Dockerfile etc.) ? Neat !

You said in a separate post you would defer the question of a catalogue of custom apps : is that still the thinking ?

TBH, with your neat approach, I am questioning whether a catalogue is needed. Every custom app (well, 99.999%) has a topic in the forum's AppWishlist category, and the packager can just post a message there with the repo details, including the relevant CloudronVersions.json file.

released v0.0.6
plugin installation fixed for installing from local (just download from marketplace and then install the local plugin package file)

Investigating the direct marketplace link

@rmdes magic, well done

would you like it added to the CustomAppGateway catalogue ? (see other forum message about funkwhale)

@rmdes ah, documentation - always the Achilles heel. Sorry, will make some, but in the interim ...

1. ensure the source git repo is publicly available, no login (just checked : it is already)

2. a prebuilt docker image on publicly available link (e.g. hub.docker.com

If no pre-built docker image available, I can build one.

With that information (just 2 URLs), I manually add the details to my CustomAppGateway and hey presto, users can install the app from a one-line install command, but better from CCAI-P as that has update process.

Planning to add update process for the one-liner install also.

@Joseph I'm not yet sold on AppFlowy but started packaging because there was a lot of interest, so the 1 seat restriction may not matter to me or 'solopreneurs'.

But, yep, could be a dampener on adding it officially to the AppStore.

Released v0.0.2 of my cloudron-dify package.

Available on CustomAppGateway and/or your own CCAI-P app, if installed. Or one-liner installation :
curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "dify"

Still early days on cloudron deployment, but releasing it so early-adopters can help flush out issues.

It's a large docker image, so be patient with installation.

issues :

• need to check email setup
• need to actually use it !
• Investigating the connection to Dify Marketplace (seems off)

"One-click" installation for Windmill on a user's own Cloudron instance :

curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "windmill"

@Joseph I find their docs not 100% clear, but my memory from my checking previously is that there are no charges for self-hosted. Feel free to challenge this understanding.

They put their pricing info right next to self-hosted, so it is not 100% clear at first reading.

I will need to dig out the checks (or do them again) but I proceeded with packaging on the basis that there are no charges for self-hosted.

I parked my packaging of AppFlowy because shinier prettier toys like CustomAppGAteway, Windmill etc were pulling me there. But I plan to finish off AppFlowy and will check this point again.

@zonzonzon said in Windmill: Open-source alternative to Airplane, Superblocks, Retool:

I don’t quite understand how to customize an app on Cloudron yet, and how to upgrade it with each change

Customise ? Pretty easy but depends what you are seeking to do

how to upgrade it with each change

well, the traditional cycle is code -> build docker image -> push to a docker repository (hub.docker.com or set up your own repo registry here on Cloudron - it's in the AppStore) -> use Cloudron CLI to execute cloudron update --app xxx.yyy.zzz

But maybe that's not the questions you were asking ?

@zonzonzon sent you a Chat message here

@rmdes I can add it to the Master Catalogue

Once added, Cloudron users can install it using a link.

Do you have a publicly available docker image ?
Or I can make one from the repo

If you are struggling to set up email in Windmill (as I have been), you need to open a terminal for the app from Cloudron app dashboard, and then run env | grep SMTP.

This will give you the correct details to put in the instance settings SMTP tab.

Wow, I am impressed with Windmill !

I have done basic testing, and I have pushed to CustomAppGateway so it is available as single install, or using CCAI-P (refresh page if already installed).

Cloudron release version 0.0.5 packaging Windmill CE v1.628.3

More testing needed through exploration.
Let me know any issues you 'early-adopters' find.

Turning attention to Dif as well as exploring Windmill.

If anyone has a recommendation for Windmill tutorial, let me know. Reading the docs but sometimes guide is better.

Anyone want to volunteer to test it ?
I’m not sure yet what I’m doing
Can create a user for you

V0.0.1 installed on my Cloudron
Couple issues to resolve.
But

Got a 0.0.1 installation

But some issues to resolve …

Started a packaging attempt ...