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  • CCAI-P - JSON.parse error
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    @humptydumpty apologies for the rough ride you're experiencing - CCAI-P was spawned from CCAI and while I removed some things for the personal scenario, I think I mistakenly left in the auth timeout.

    I have a total rework of CCAI and CCAI-P in production. It might be redundant in terms of Cloudron's announcement of 9.1. But they have a number of big items in that release so maybe I can get the re-worked versions out for a some some service lifetime until 9.1 is available.

    Usually logout + connect clears it, but maybe mileage varies.

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  • CCAI-P - JSON.parse error
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    @luckow strange ... and apologies

    line 1 and column1 is unusual
    let me look into it.

    do you have any more logs (sanitised if need be) ?

    problems I hav e seen in CCAI-P are all due to the timeout (inherited from CCAI and due to be removed) on auth - usually solved by logging out (button above list on right of screen, then pressing the connect button which appears in the middle of the screen. I guess restarting does the same thing in effect.

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  • Agent Zero - A personal, organic agentic framework that grows and learns with you
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    v0.1.6 : ensured MCP servers work, resolved searx dependency

    now pushed to git.cloudron.io/cloudron-agent0 and docker hub image tcmbp132021/cloudron-agent0:latest (aka v0.1.6)

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  • Agent Zero - A personal, organic agentic framework that grows and learns with you
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    v0.0.8 : **extended telegram bot functionality ** 🍾
    now pushed to git.cloudron.io/cloudron-agent0 and docker hub image tcmbp132021/cloudron-agent0:latest

    • /run : launch custom user scripts (no container rebuild) from your telegram app - open extensibility :
      • invoice / document downloader (send it a link) ✔
      • task manager (add/remind/complete) ?? ❓
      • <whatever you would like it to do> 🤔
    • /chat : chat with AgentZero from inside your telegram app
    • /learn : get AgentZero to memorise new info
    • /health : get AgentZero core system report

    a0-tg-bot.png

    Bonus cool : some of this was designed/built by me & my TRAE dev assistant, but some was AgentZero itself !
    Suggesting and writing changes "to itself" (well, to how the telegram bot could be better deployed inside AgentZero).
    Self-healing, self-extending apps around the corner !

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  • Agent Zero - A personal, organic agentic framework that grows and learns with you
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    @robi you're right.

    I have set the task to be run only once per week, it checks for an incoming email received with a subject like "your invoice is ready" from a specific email address (the supplier).

    It only executes anything if there is a waiting email like that.

    So limited email box polling and very constrained execution scope, and no AI credits used at this point (at this stage it's not parsing or processing the downloaded invoice - just a python script).

    AI credits used in building the script, but none currently in execution.

    The script is not in the package, it needs to be built by AgentZero specifically to the Cloudron's users needs. I'm still tweaking the script, but don't mind sharing it afterwards as a generic script if anyone wants it (upload to /app/data/instruments and then tel AgentZero to build a scheduled task invoking it).

    Manual admin tasks like invoice download and processing are the bane of my life, so I was excited by what openclaw offered, but I think it can be done better in AgentZero.

    Specifically about notifying the agent, I'm just building a telegram invoked task - go get this invoice. That might be relevant to your comment.

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  • Agent Zero - A personal, organic agentic framework that grows and learns with you
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    @robi well, there could be 101 answers to that, email being what it is, but the way I have done it is :

    • AgentZero is deployed on Cloudron, e.g. a0.domain.tld, so I have set up a mailbox a0bot@domain.tld. Created an extra Cloudron user xxx_bot and made it the owner of the mailbox (i.e. it has it's own password, I'm not sharing my main password with AgentZero)
    • I tell AgentZero the necessary IMAP details, username a0bot@domain.tld, password, mail server address used by your Cloudron, port 993
    • AgentZero builds a task (script) using the mailbox config which it is given to poll for emails received, processes them and (optionally) deletes them, using the body content and attachments in the script it is building
    • I forward emails to a0bot@domain.tld from other Cloudron email boxes or my primary email (ProtonMail). The email from my Proton has a forwarding rule (e.g. send Hetzner invoices to a0bot@domain.tld). It could be manual forward or auto-forward.

    This could be much slicker, but at this stage (a) I'm experimenting, (b) I'm controlling what gets sent to AgentZero.

    Depending how ambitious one wants to get, you can build a whole array of email inbox processing w/o forwarding, e.g. just give it my primary Proton mail creds. Maybe I will be brave on that later 🤣

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  • Agent Zero - A personal, organic agentic framework that grows and learns with you
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    v0.0.6 : added telegram support
    v0.0.7 : fixed telegram support 😄
    pushed to git.cloudron.io/cloudron-agent0 and docker hub image tcmbp132021/cloudron-agent0:latest

    clawdbot / moltbot / openclaw is an amazing piece of work, but in comparison to Agent Zero, it feels hacky. But their idea of a telegram integration to fire off a task is so cool, it is sweet and glacial 🍦

    So I baked it in to AgentZero.
    Get yourself a telegram bot and set it up with AgentZero - work inside and with AgentZero to build your task/skill - invoke it hands-off via a Telegram command.

    I'm not much into Discord, Slack, WhatsApp, Signal, but if there's a demand for them as interfaces to AgentZero, I can look at adding them in.

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  • Agent Zero - A personal, organic agentic framework that grows and learns with you
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    v0.0.5 pushed / image updated (:latest / v0.0.5)
    tested scripting ... built by AgentZero itself.

    Gave it a supplier's nasty website who doesn't email out invoices, requiring manual login to collect invoices and download. Well, not manual any more.

    AgentZero built a custom python script to check every Monday morning if a "ready to collect" email has been received, and if so, logs in, handling the OTP issued, downloads the invoice.

    I know, it's not rocket science .... except that AgentZero built the custom script based on a brief.

    For sure, it needed a while to test and refine different approaches, because of the supplier's nasty strange website. But who cares, it wasn't about the speed of development, it's about the fact that I hardly had to lift a finger.

    Screenshot 2026-01-31 at 23.44.55.png

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  • Agent Zero - A personal, organic agentic framework that grows and learns with you
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    v0.0.4 pushed
    some updated instructions on using selfhosted ollama In AgentZero

    (n.b. I mostly deploy ollama cloud models so the processing is offloaded : not fully selfhosted but a step towards more data privacy)

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  • Agent Zero - A personal, organic agentic framework that grows and learns with you
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    Update git repo to v0.0.3 and pushed new image to docker hub tcmbp132021/cloudron-agent0:v0.0.3 (also :latest)

    More work to do but preferring Agent Zero to openclaw - persevering with both.

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  • Agent Zero - A personal, organic agentic framework that grows and learns with you
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    @jdaviescoates I used to make it a point of principle to submit and pay at 23:55. But I'm getting more accommodating - I'll settle for 13:00 nowadays.

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  • Agent Zero - A personal, organic agentic framework that grows and learns with you
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    Tried to use Agent Zero to do my tax return !
    TBH, this version's PDF capabilities were not good.
    So I am making a new version with enhanced PDF query functions.
    Standby ...

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  • Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    @marcusquinn

    Interesting : now I see that many of his creations are listed as plugins/extensions within moltbot/openclaw


    "Ship beats perfect"

    Ha ! Don't I know it (from packaging moltbot).
    Far be it from me to challenge this, but I think he should revise his approach.
    "Shipped and properly working, not incomplete, beats perfect" might be better.

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  • Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    @marcusquinn started packaging it ....

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  • LF Kanban recommendations/experiences? (non-wekan)
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    @humptydumpty I agree - wekan is yuk.

    Does it have to be an alternative in the browser ?
    On iOS, I am increasingly using "Truly Simple Kanban" app, and not missing the big screen.

    Off-topic

  • Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    @robi I have Telegram working. Need to configure some / tasks and skills to make it productive.

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  • Cloudron 9 released
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    Pankow sounds interesting.
    Look forward to seeing it.

    Out of curiosity, how do we say it ? Pan-cow? Pan-kov ? Pan-koff ?

    And lots of other nice stuff ! 👍

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  • What's coming in 9.1
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    Thank you @girish and Cloudron team for considering the custom/community direction. Will sure make life easier for all involved. Really appreciate this.
    Looking forward to how it takes shape.

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  • Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    @robi openclaw is much better name
    I just hope the code is much better and finished

    E.g.
    “We support iMessage”

    • “cool”

    “Ah, but it’s a WIP”

    • “aarrgghh”

    I’m excited about Moltbot/OpenClaw but I reckon it needs another couple months to be complete / stable

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  • Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)
    timconsidineT timconsidine

    Yay ! 🍾
    Later than hoped, but done now.

    I have packaged Moltbot for Cloudron (was Clawdbot) including its browser GUI.
    Repo : git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-moltbot
    Built public docker image : tcmbp132021/cloudron-moltbot:latest
    Available on ccai.appx.uk (or your own CCAI-P but re-import the master catalogue)

    Frankly the GUI is not fully developed, and still requires manual configuration in the (ugly but functional) CLI.
    But hopefully with the fast pace of development, it will become 100%.

    I'm putting this out with an ALPHA status, because I am still testing it out, so don't really know what works and what doesn't. Equally I know there is a lot of interest in it, so rushed it out as ALPHA.
    Maybe the 'bleeding edge' / 'edge of seats' brigade can help me out 😄

    TBH AgentZero (https://forum.cloudron.io/post/119353) holds more interest for me, so not currently sure if I will use Moltbot in practice, but as it's been getting lots of profile, it's fun to explore and compare and discover its capabilities.

    Many of you wanting this on Cloudron are probably 2 steps ahead of me in terms of understanding and configuring Moltbot for real use.
    So feedback and your guidance is welcome.


    Side-note on Packaging : I lost time packaging this because I played with Claude Code (CLI and VS-Code plugin), then Opencode (also CLI and VS-Code).
    TBH there was learning time on those, and neither cut it fully for me.
    Opencode is good, but didn't perform as well as my standard dev setup.
    That's probably an issue of models used, but none performed as well as well as my TRAE dev assistant on "auto" model selection.
    I will remove Claude Code from my setup as the only attraction was using it with Ollama models, but I can do that with Opencode or even TRAE.

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