I would strongly recommend Univention as the authentication back end. I used that in the past (pre cloudron) for LDAP auth for everything. I migrated all my apps / data to Cloudron/OpenID/Oauth and am now re-deploying Univention for desktop auth. Desktop users of my company will only need two passwords (cloudron/univention) but with Cloudron SSO, and they can stay (essentially) perm logged in with cookies, it's not a big deal. Only artists/engineers etc doing heavy desktop work will need Univention logins. One other option I'm exploring is having Linux auth to keycloak... https://github.com/kha7iq/kc-ssh-pam

Got it. Thank you so much for the update. Sorry about my mis-perception/understanding of the tone. Thank you all for the great support you provide us all!

Hello @elorden and welcome to the Cloudron forum. I will answer your questions: @elorden said in Pre Sales Questions: I read in an old post (from 2020) that the same application can only be installed 5 times within the same Cloudron. Is this still the case, or has this limitation been removed? No, this is no longer the case. If you wish to install e.g. 100x LAMP apps, you can do that. You can even test this on the Cloudron Demo Server https://my.demo.cloudron.io/ I just installed 8x LAMP apps: [image: 1753812342377-2d0af459-de6c-45ca-a39b-b98ad55df82f-image.png] @elorden said in Pre Sales Questions: In my case, I want to install 20 instances of the same app for 20 clients. I want to see if I can do this with one Cloudron license. Or, on the contrary, will I need four licenses? And is it allowed to market this according to Cloudron's TOCs? Yes you can do so and yes you can market/sell these with no issues. Be aware, since each app may come with its own license and conditions, please respect them as well. What you do with your Cloudron Server is fully up to you. Cloudron does not impose restrictions in this regard. If you'd like to read our terms, thery are linked here: https://www.cloudron.io/legal/terms.html @elorden said in Pre Sales Questions: Is it possible to create databases (e.g., Postgree) in Cloudron? There are applications, such as MetaBase, that need to connect to an external database. And, from what I can see, I'm afraid that would be something to configure outside of Cloudron. Currently, there is no APP just providing a database like PostgreSQL or MySQL etc. In your question, would this MetaBase be hosted outside the Cloudron server or on the same Cloudron server? But, creating a simple app that just provides a singular postgresql, mysql or mongodb would be a fast workaround to have Cloudron still provide and manage these Databases. @elorden said in Pre Sales Questions: Is it possible to add other open source applications? Yes, many people here even publish and maintain their own apps. For example, @BrutalBirdie with his custom FoundryVTT requested from this topic https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8296/foundry-virtual-tabletop @elorden said in Pre Sales Questions: I'm not a developer, but if it's not too complicated, I'd like to try to help package them so that we can all have them. Because although the Cloudron catalog is very good, I see that new interesting applications are appearing every day that are offered on other platforms (e.g., Coolify) and are not available on Cloudron. Packaging a Cloudron App comes with some caveats. There is a big doc section about this topic here: https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/tutorial/ When packaging you will always have to have the Cloudron App filesystem in mind. If there are any questions left, or I created new ones, please ask away.

@james said in sshfs backup duplicates network traffic?: So, sshfs tries to issue a remote copy command but falls back to sshfs based copy if it fails for some reason. What is your provider for sshfs? Most people here use Hetzner Storage Boxes. I'm my own provider I'm just using a standard SSH install on proxmox, and the files are stored on a ZFS cluster. I don't know of anything that would stop the copy command from working; what can I do to check / troubleshoot this?

Hello @xarp In Cloudron 9 the mail notification settings look like this (note: this is a preview and still is subjected to change until released) [image: 1753685397426-6e282456-54d4-4030-8435-580d21522def-image-resized.png] I will create a feature request topic quoting your message to track that e-mail notifications should also be included there. EDIT: Done, see: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/110773 If anything is missing in this feature request, please extend it to your liking @xarp

I've tried traccar, and findmydevice both are a pain to get going, requiring permissions (samsungs at least) challenge and revoke default. They also drain the battery significantly more than the google maps alternative.

yes @james I have also thought of using that. but manually running it on all mailboxes sounds like a pain I don't want to go through. I guess the current way I envision it is writing a script for imapsync that uses the api of cloudron to get all mailboxes and impersonates the users of the mailboxes to auto run imapsync on them. but then again maybe a block of the port is the way to go, so I don't have to write that script. the whole backup and recover process should be done quite quickly anyways. I am wondering though if this is not something others have gone through as well?

I would like to change some of these already. I want to ask which apps they might like to package in the future, and also what we could do to encourage more packagers to try.

It seems available only on their development branch, installable using go https://plakar.io/posts/2025-06-27/it-doesnt-make-sense-to-wrap-modern-data-in-a-1979-format-introducing-.ptar/ $ go install github.com/PlakarKorp/plakar@v1.0.3-devel.c7a66f1 I believe the requirement is mainly Go version 1.23.3 (via https://www.plakar.io/docs/main/quickstart/)

@necrevistonnezr this looks slick, going to look in to when I get a sec

@Robin do you maybe still have the apptask logs from where it hang? It should give us some indication why the DNS record check didn't succeed during that time. It should show which nameserver returned which IP for the records.

On Cloudron, the only way to share directories is using Volumes . Is it possible to reorg your setup to use Volumes ? You might also have to use https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/#data-directory

@cpa If you blacklist heavily, that means you cannot use the mail server anymore, correct? As servers delivering incoming mail cannot connect anymore….

New address: https://pinokio.co/

Thank you for sharing your perspective – I’ll look into this further.

Well, I've just configured SMTP2Go in my Cloudron. I've got 2 domains managed by my Cloudron. So far test emails seem to have worked, so hoping it'll work going forward. Thank you everyone for your input!

Well that is interesting.. is should be able to be a web-app since it's written in JS/CSS & Vue. It's being packaged with Electron to be a binary, but I see no reason it can't be an app or even cloud connected app-as-a-service. UPDATE: This issue on their Github answers that question.

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