A cosmetic question
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@BrutalBirdie I get great lather with Barrister & Mann shaving soaps. My favorite is Seville. I've had to dump many products after looking them up using the Yuka app.
@humptydumpty thanks that looks like a useful app. I wish https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/ had an app. I should write to them and let them know. I think there are apps that would be similar but they they are the OGs (been doing this stuff since the 80s) have most of the best and up to date research (and are themselves a multi stakeholder co-op which I like too)
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@humptydumpty thanks that looks like a useful app. I wish https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/ had an app. I should write to them and let them know. I think there are apps that would be similar but they they are the OGs (been doing this stuff since the 80s) have most of the best and up to date research (and are themselves a multi stakeholder co-op which I like too)
@jdaviescoates I didn't even know there were such apps until recently. It's such an eye opener to see the amount of
in daily products. If I read the details section of each product scan, it mentions xx chemical is banned or has a limit or a warning in the EU, but is allowed in the US with no restrictions! WTF! 
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@jdaviescoates I didn't even know there were such apps until recently. It's such an eye opener to see the amount of
in daily products. If I read the details section of each product scan, it mentions xx chemical is banned or has a limit or a warning in the EU, but is allowed in the US with no restrictions! WTF! Can't wait for RFK to get confirmed!@humptydumpty said in A cosmetic question:
Can't wait for RFK to get confirmed!
I hope that's a joke!
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@humptydumpty said in A cosmetic question:
Can't wait for RFK to get confirmed!
I hope that's a joke!
@jdaviescoates Why would it be a joke?
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Please lets not swing from a beard beauty topic into a political one
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@jdaviescoates Why would it be a joke?
@humptydumpty said in A cosmetic question:
@jdaviescoates Why would it be a joke?
Because, whilst he's done some nice things in the past, and is right to be concerned about and criticise Ultra Processed Foods, he routinely spouts complete and utter provably false dangerous bullshit (e.g. about vaccines and COVID and so much else).
And even on the processed foods stuff e.g. "He later clarified that he does not want to take away access to processed food for Americans: "If you like a McDonald's cheeseburger or a Diet Coke - which my boss loves - you should be able to get them," he said"
Like pretty much all politicians everywhere (very much including Democrats in the US and Labour in the UK too, btw) I don't believe for a second he'll take any actions against the owners of capital who (especially in the US, but here in the UK too) have basically purchased them. And it's those owners who benefit from selling us nutritionally empty ultra processed crap.
Michael Pollan's 7 word food manifesto is still pretty spot-on IMHO:
Eat food*.
Not too much.
Mostly plants.*by which he means actual food, not UPF (nice summary here)
But on the topic of UPF I can highly recommend these great talks by Chris Van Tulleken (author of Ultra-Processed People: Why Do We All Eat Stuff That Isn’t Food … and Why Can’t We Stop?) :
And these which are for children and so really accessible (those in the UK can watch them over on iPlayer) :
@BrutalBirdie said in A cosmetic question:
Please lets not swing from a beard beauty topic into a political one
Sorry, it had to be said
@humptydumpty I relaly hope RFK does do something positive about UPF because it's even worse there in the US than here in the UK. If he actually does I've give you $10 to buy that book (but you can also find it on Z Library, etc too
). But even if he does I'll still think he's mostly a dangerous nonsense spouting numpty 
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day 14. It still itches.
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Looking good. Best you can do now is to limit anything rubbing on your face (no hands, shirts, etc.) and keep your body temp "cool". Wash your face with cold water when the itch starts. It looks like you're trimming the beard to keep it all even. If not, doing so will help keep you refreshed too.
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beard oil ?
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@luckow It is looking good! I wish I could help. It's been so many years with my beard that I can't remember if I experienced the itching at all when it was "sprouting". But since AI is wiser than me, beard oild seems to be the suggested remedy. Here are some suggestions available in the EU: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-are-the-best-beard-oils-a-WZ.FkWizSP2BpCNmbVoi1Q
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Quick feedback after a month: men are not willing to talk about cosmetic issues in rooms with topics other than “men's issues”. I don't know why. Maybe because they never learned to find words for their (personal) problems. Most people with beards I've met can't remember the early days. My personal problem with itching still exists. Not a day goes by that I don't think about the razor (and the good old days). But ... let's see what the next month brings
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Despite an after shave balm or something like that? For me, slight irritation comes and goes, but a balm like that works.
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This may or may not be good news for you @luckow. I started growing out my beard about 4.5 years ago, I also had constant itchiness, and pimples. I started using beard moisturizer, but it didn't seem to make a difference. About 2 years ago I shaved it all off (the combo pic), and started using better beard oil and keeping it clean right from the start, and in the past 2 years it hasn't been itchy at all, nor any skin issues. It felt to me that shaving it all off after years of trying somehow reset everything. So, I'm not suggesting you shave it all off now, but perhaps after you seen it through to a decent length, if that problem continues, you could think of doing it.
The itchiness would start after this stage:
Now, since I'm caring for the chin hair like the hair on my head, no itchiness and no skin issues:
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That is impressive hair all around!
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@luckow Just wondering if the starting length was 4mm and what you are really saying is that you shaved off your beard and the itching stopped:) FWIW, I have had a beard for longer than I can remember. Occasionally, it itches. Not sure why this happens, but hang in there.
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I followed a variation of @scooke's story and trimmed 4mm off my beard. Guess what? The itching suddenly stopped. We'll see in two weeks whether this magic tip has helped.
@luckow I suspect that the ends are rough, and trimming trimmed them so as not to be rough, and thus, not causing itchyness. That is my guess in my own case, that when I let it grow longer without good beard oil that the ends were always rough; trimming didn't help because the beard hair had spent all that time growing rough, too (without good beard oil). Once I started over and used good beard oil, it stayed "healthy" and not rough tipped. So, in addition to your 4mm trim, be sure to keep it clean and use good beard oil (not beard moisturizer). Keep us updated!
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quick update on itching (2 1/2 months later). After being comfortable with 4mm, I've been trying to figure out what happens when I go to 6mm. It took a while, but now it feels normal to wear a 6mm beard. The next step is to grow to 9mm (because of the trimmer).
