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Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular file system volume type in Cloudron

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  • M makemrproper

    Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular filesystem volume type in Cloudron.

    I have a working SSHFS mount in /mnt/folder

    When trying to I am trying to add the /mnt/folder to Cloudron as a filesystem volume type, I am getting this error: hostPath must be a realpath without symlinks

    The reason I want to do this, is because Cloudron will not let me use an SSHFS volume as a data-volume for my (immich) Cloudron-app.

    debug:
    sshfs mount works perfectly
    permissions are lax, set to 777 on the mountpoint folder

    more background of why I want to do this here: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12239/storage-management-in-immich/46

    Thanks for any suggestions!

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    @makemrproper I'm sorry could you summarize or even give step-by-step instructions on what you ended up doing?

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    • M makemrproper

      Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular filesystem volume type in Cloudron.

      I have a working SSHFS mount in /mnt/folder

      When trying to I am trying to add the /mnt/folder to Cloudron as a filesystem volume type, I am getting this error: hostPath must be a realpath without symlinks

      The reason I want to do this, is because Cloudron will not let me use an SSHFS volume as a data-volume for my (immich) Cloudron-app.

      debug:
      sshfs mount works perfectly
      permissions are lax, set to 777 on the mountpoint folder

      more background of why I want to do this here: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12239/storage-management-in-immich/46

      Thanks for any suggestions!

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      joseph
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      @makemrproper said in Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular file system volume type in Cloudron:

      When trying to I am trying to add the /mnt/folder to Cloudron as a filesystem volume type, I am getting this error: hostPath must be a realpath without symlinks

      Just tested this and this works fine here. Is /mnt/folder a symlink? I have a fstab line to mount a sshfs into /mnt/folder . And then I just added Filesystem mount type in Volumes view.

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        msbt
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        wrote on last edited by msbt
        #11

        Also getting that message, but on a different use-case. I'm trying to add a (sftp) rclone mount to Cloudron. Mounting and browsing works fine, but when trying to add it as a volume, it says hostPath must be a realpath without symlinks. Is that not supported?

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          joseph
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          Didn't get an answer to my earlier question. Is it a symlink? You can't add symlinks.

          Can you try node -e "fs.realpathSync('/the/path')" ? This function is failing or returning something other than the path you are adding for some reason.

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            msbt
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            Can only speak for my issue, not a symlink:

            /mnt# ls -la
            total 12
            drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Jun  9 09:21 .
            drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 Dec 17 11:10 ..
            drwxr-xr-x  1 root root    0 Jun  9 09:22 media
            drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Dec 17 11:31 volumes
            

            Your command doesn't fail, but doesn't give any output either.

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              Can only speak for my issue, not a symlink:

              /mnt# ls -la
              total 12
              drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Jun  9 09:21 .
              drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 Dec 17 11:10 ..
              drwxr-xr-x  1 root root    0 Jun  9 09:22 media
              drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Dec 17 11:31 volumes
              

              Your command doesn't fail, but doesn't give any output either.

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              joseph
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              wrote on last edited by
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              @msbt said in Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular file system volume type in Cloudron:

              Your command doesn't fail, but doesn't give any output either.

              My bad... Can you try like this:

              root@my:/mnt# node -e "console.log(fs.realpathSync('/mnt/folder'))"
              /mnt/folder
              
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                @msbt said in Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular file system volume type in Cloudron:

                Your command doesn't fail, but doesn't give any output either.

                My bad... Can you try like this:

                root@my:/mnt# node -e "console.log(fs.realpathSync('/mnt/folder'))"
                /mnt/folder
                
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                msbt
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                @joseph sure:

                /mnt# node -e "console.log(fs.realpathSync('/mnt/media'))"
                /mnt/media
                

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                  @joseph sure:

                  /mnt# node -e "console.log(fs.realpathSync('/mnt/media'))"
                  /mnt/media
                  
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                  joseph
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                  wrote on last edited by joseph
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                  @msbt you are trying to add /mnt/media in the Volumes view ? I cannot see why https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/blob/master/src/volumes.js?ref_type=heads#L57 will fail . That's where the error message comes from. If you are ok debugging a bit, just put some console.log in that function and systemctl restart box.

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                    @msbt you are trying to add /mnt/media in the Volumes view ? I cannot see why https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/blob/master/src/volumes.js?ref_type=heads#L57 will fail . That's where the error message comes from. If you are ok debugging a bit, just put some console.log in that function and systemctl restart box.

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                    msbt
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                    @joseph happy to, can you maybe enable chat so we can do that 1:1?

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                      joseph
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                      @msbt can you instead write to me at support@cloudron.io please? Will debug it right away.

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                        wrote on last edited by msbt
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                        My issue is resolved, adding a --allow-other parameter to the mount solved it, thanks @girish and @joseph

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                          My issue is resolved, adding a --allow-other parameter to the mount solved it, thanks @girish and @joseph

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                          @msbt I'm sorry but could you do a small writeup of your setup? I'd be interested in using a storage box as storage backend.

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                            @andreasdueren the setup in this case is based on rclone, is that what you're looking for? Because the regular storage box setup you probably already know of, since you posted in there as well 😉 https://forum.cloudron.io/post/32783

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                              @andreasdueren the setup in this case is based on rclone, is that what you're looking for? Because the regular storage box setup you probably already know of, since you posted in there as well 😉 https://forum.cloudron.io/post/32783

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                              @msbt Yes the regular storage box setup i'm well familiar with. But that won't work with immich. So you installed rclone and connected via the SFTP backend?

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                                @msbt Yes the regular storage box setup i'm well familiar with. But that won't work with immich. So you installed rclone and connected via the SFTP backend?

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                                @andreasdueren yep, I did this to install and configure it:

                                curl https://rclone.org/install.sh | sudo bash
                                rclone config
                                

                                after that, the config will resides in

                                ~/.config/rclone/rclone.conf
                                

                                and will look something like this (I enabled encryption too, because why not 😉 :

                                [backup]
                                type = sftp
                                host = u123456-sub1.your-storagebox.de
                                user = u123456-sub1
                                port = 23
                                pass = hashed_pwd
                                md5sum_command = md5 -r
                                sha1sum_command = sha1 -r
                                shell_type = unix
                                idle_timeout = 0
                                
                                [backupcrypt]
                                type = crypt
                                remote = backup:backup
                                

                                mounting:

                                mkdir /mnt/backup
                                chown -R yellowtent:yellowtent /mnt/backup
                                rclone mount backupcrypt: /mnt/backup \
                                    --crypt-password "verylonghashedpwd" \
                                    --crypt-password2 "evenlongerhashedpwd" \
                                    --vfs-cache-mode writes --daemon --transfers 3 --checkers 6 --allow-other
                                

                                The last bit was the important one, without it mounting wasn't possible. You should now be able to mount the rclone thing as a volume. For whatever reason it shows the red dot, I'm guessing that's because of the fs. However, I haven't had an issue with that in months. Currently I'm mounting it manually on every machine reboot, but there are ways to mount it automatically.

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                                  @andreasdueren yep, I did this to install and configure it:

                                  curl https://rclone.org/install.sh | sudo bash
                                  rclone config
                                  

                                  after that, the config will resides in

                                  ~/.config/rclone/rclone.conf
                                  

                                  and will look something like this (I enabled encryption too, because why not 😉 :

                                  [backup]
                                  type = sftp
                                  host = u123456-sub1.your-storagebox.de
                                  user = u123456-sub1
                                  port = 23
                                  pass = hashed_pwd
                                  md5sum_command = md5 -r
                                  sha1sum_command = sha1 -r
                                  shell_type = unix
                                  idle_timeout = 0
                                  
                                  [backupcrypt]
                                  type = crypt
                                  remote = backup:backup
                                  

                                  mounting:

                                  mkdir /mnt/backup
                                  chown -R yellowtent:yellowtent /mnt/backup
                                  rclone mount backupcrypt: /mnt/backup \
                                      --crypt-password "verylonghashedpwd" \
                                      --crypt-password2 "evenlongerhashedpwd" \
                                      --vfs-cache-mode writes --daemon --transfers 3 --checkers 6 --allow-other
                                  

                                  The last bit was the important one, without it mounting wasn't possible. You should now be able to mount the rclone thing as a volume. For whatever reason it shows the red dot, I'm guessing that's because of the fs. However, I haven't had an issue with that in months. Currently I'm mounting it manually on every machine reboot, but there are ways to mount it automatically.

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                                  @msbt nice, thanks! Will have to read out on that. How is speed? Are you using it for immich?

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                                    @msbt nice, thanks! Will have to read out on that. How is speed? Are you using it for immich?

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                                    @andreasdueren you're welcome, I forgot to post the Hetzner docs, they also have a bit of information on that. Speeds are fine, never had any issues with various kinds of media.

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