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Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular file system volume type in Cloudron

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  • M makemrproper

    Sounds like the case is identical, yes :).

    Great workaround! I will try it.

    Solving it at the hypervisor level is not any better than directly on the cloudron vm. There is no way to share a folder to a vm. Only nfs, cifs, sshfs or direct block device.

    The reason is that our phones are growing, and at current I need to sync 5x family members phones at 1tb. Not insane anounts of course, but way beyond the m2.ssd cloudron is running on.

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    @makemrproper said in Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular file system volume type in Cloudron:

    or direct block device

    https://linbit.com/drbd/ is the gold standard.

    Conscious tech

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    • M makemrproper

      Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular filesystem volume type in Cloudron.

      I have a working SSHFS mount in /mnt/folder

      When trying to I am trying to add the /mnt/folder to Cloudron as a filesystem volume type, I am getting this error: hostPath must be a realpath without symlinks

      The reason I want to do this, is because Cloudron will not let me use an SSHFS volume as a data-volume for my (immich) Cloudron-app.

      debug:
      sshfs mount works perfectly
      permissions are lax, set to 777 on the mountpoint folder

      more background of why I want to do this here: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12239/storage-management-in-immich/46

      Thanks for any suggestions!

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      @makemrproper I'm sorry could you summarize or even give step-by-step instructions on what you ended up doing?

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      • M makemrproper

        Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular filesystem volume type in Cloudron.

        I have a working SSHFS mount in /mnt/folder

        When trying to I am trying to add the /mnt/folder to Cloudron as a filesystem volume type, I am getting this error: hostPath must be a realpath without symlinks

        The reason I want to do this, is because Cloudron will not let me use an SSHFS volume as a data-volume for my (immich) Cloudron-app.

        debug:
        sshfs mount works perfectly
        permissions are lax, set to 777 on the mountpoint folder

        more background of why I want to do this here: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12239/storage-management-in-immich/46

        Thanks for any suggestions!

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        joseph
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        @makemrproper said in Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular file system volume type in Cloudron:

        When trying to I am trying to add the /mnt/folder to Cloudron as a filesystem volume type, I am getting this error: hostPath must be a realpath without symlinks

        Just tested this and this works fine here. Is /mnt/folder a symlink? I have a fstab line to mount a sshfs into /mnt/folder . And then I just added Filesystem mount type in Volumes view.

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          msbt
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          wrote on last edited by msbt
          #11

          Also getting that message, but on a different use-case. I'm trying to add a (sftp) rclone mount to Cloudron. Mounting and browsing works fine, but when trying to add it as a volume, it says hostPath must be a realpath without symlinks. Is that not supported?

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            joseph
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            Didn't get an answer to my earlier question. Is it a symlink? You can't add symlinks.

            Can you try node -e "fs.realpathSync('/the/path')" ? This function is failing or returning something other than the path you are adding for some reason.

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              msbt
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              Can only speak for my issue, not a symlink:

              /mnt# ls -la
              total 12
              drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Jun  9 09:21 .
              drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 Dec 17 11:10 ..
              drwxr-xr-x  1 root root    0 Jun  9 09:22 media
              drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Dec 17 11:31 volumes
              

              Your command doesn't fail, but doesn't give any output either.

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              • M msbt

                Can only speak for my issue, not a symlink:

                /mnt# ls -la
                total 12
                drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Jun  9 09:21 .
                drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 Dec 17 11:10 ..
                drwxr-xr-x  1 root root    0 Jun  9 09:22 media
                drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Dec 17 11:31 volumes
                

                Your command doesn't fail, but doesn't give any output either.

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                @msbt said in Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular file system volume type in Cloudron:

                Your command doesn't fail, but doesn't give any output either.

                My bad... Can you try like this:

                root@my:/mnt# node -e "console.log(fs.realpathSync('/mnt/folder'))"
                /mnt/folder
                
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                • J joseph

                  @msbt said in Trying to add an sshfs mounted location as a regular file system volume type in Cloudron:

                  Your command doesn't fail, but doesn't give any output either.

                  My bad... Can you try like this:

                  root@my:/mnt# node -e "console.log(fs.realpathSync('/mnt/folder'))"
                  /mnt/folder
                  
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                  msbt
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                  @joseph sure:

                  /mnt# node -e "console.log(fs.realpathSync('/mnt/media'))"
                  /mnt/media
                  

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                  • M msbt

                    @joseph sure:

                    /mnt# node -e "console.log(fs.realpathSync('/mnt/media'))"
                    /mnt/media
                    
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                    joseph
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                    wrote on last edited by joseph
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                    @msbt you are trying to add /mnt/media in the Volumes view ? I cannot see why https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/blob/master/src/volumes.js?ref_type=heads#L57 will fail . That's where the error message comes from. If you are ok debugging a bit, just put some console.log in that function and systemctl restart box.

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                    • J joseph

                      @msbt you are trying to add /mnt/media in the Volumes view ? I cannot see why https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/blob/master/src/volumes.js?ref_type=heads#L57 will fail . That's where the error message comes from. If you are ok debugging a bit, just put some console.log in that function and systemctl restart box.

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                      msbt
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                      @joseph happy to, can you maybe enable chat so we can do that 1:1?

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                        @msbt can you instead write to me at support@cloudron.io please? Will debug it right away.

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                          msbt
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                          wrote on last edited by msbt
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                          My issue is resolved, adding a --allow-other parameter to the mount solved it, thanks @girish and @joseph

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                            My issue is resolved, adding a --allow-other parameter to the mount solved it, thanks @girish and @joseph

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                            @msbt I'm sorry but could you do a small writeup of your setup? I'd be interested in using a storage box as storage backend.

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                              msbt
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                              @andreasdueren the setup in this case is based on rclone, is that what you're looking for? Because the regular storage box setup you probably already know of, since you posted in there as well 😉 https://forum.cloudron.io/post/32783

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                              • M msbt

                                @andreasdueren the setup in this case is based on rclone, is that what you're looking for? Because the regular storage box setup you probably already know of, since you posted in there as well 😉 https://forum.cloudron.io/post/32783

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                                @msbt Yes the regular storage box setup i'm well familiar with. But that won't work with immich. So you installed rclone and connected via the SFTP backend?

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                                  @msbt Yes the regular storage box setup i'm well familiar with. But that won't work with immich. So you installed rclone and connected via the SFTP backend?

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                                  @andreasdueren yep, I did this to install and configure it:

                                  curl https://rclone.org/install.sh | sudo bash
                                  rclone config
                                  

                                  after that, the config will resides in

                                  ~/.config/rclone/rclone.conf
                                  

                                  and will look something like this (I enabled encryption too, because why not 😉 :

                                  [backup]
                                  type = sftp
                                  host = u123456-sub1.your-storagebox.de
                                  user = u123456-sub1
                                  port = 23
                                  pass = hashed_pwd
                                  md5sum_command = md5 -r
                                  sha1sum_command = sha1 -r
                                  shell_type = unix
                                  idle_timeout = 0
                                  
                                  [backupcrypt]
                                  type = crypt
                                  remote = backup:backup
                                  

                                  mounting:

                                  mkdir /mnt/backup
                                  chown -R yellowtent:yellowtent /mnt/backup
                                  rclone mount backupcrypt: /mnt/backup \
                                      --crypt-password "verylonghashedpwd" \
                                      --crypt-password2 "evenlongerhashedpwd" \
                                      --vfs-cache-mode writes --daemon --transfers 3 --checkers 6 --allow-other
                                  

                                  The last bit was the important one, without it mounting wasn't possible. You should now be able to mount the rclone thing as a volume. For whatever reason it shows the red dot, I'm guessing that's because of the fs. However, I haven't had an issue with that in months. Currently I'm mounting it manually on every machine reboot, but there are ways to mount it automatically.

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                                  • M msbt

                                    @andreasdueren yep, I did this to install and configure it:

                                    curl https://rclone.org/install.sh | sudo bash
                                    rclone config
                                    

                                    after that, the config will resides in

                                    ~/.config/rclone/rclone.conf
                                    

                                    and will look something like this (I enabled encryption too, because why not 😉 :

                                    [backup]
                                    type = sftp
                                    host = u123456-sub1.your-storagebox.de
                                    user = u123456-sub1
                                    port = 23
                                    pass = hashed_pwd
                                    md5sum_command = md5 -r
                                    sha1sum_command = sha1 -r
                                    shell_type = unix
                                    idle_timeout = 0
                                    
                                    [backupcrypt]
                                    type = crypt
                                    remote = backup:backup
                                    

                                    mounting:

                                    mkdir /mnt/backup
                                    chown -R yellowtent:yellowtent /mnt/backup
                                    rclone mount backupcrypt: /mnt/backup \
                                        --crypt-password "verylonghashedpwd" \
                                        --crypt-password2 "evenlongerhashedpwd" \
                                        --vfs-cache-mode writes --daemon --transfers 3 --checkers 6 --allow-other
                                    

                                    The last bit was the important one, without it mounting wasn't possible. You should now be able to mount the rclone thing as a volume. For whatever reason it shows the red dot, I'm guessing that's because of the fs. However, I haven't had an issue with that in months. Currently I'm mounting it manually on every machine reboot, but there are ways to mount it automatically.

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                                    andreasdueren
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                                    @msbt nice, thanks! Will have to read out on that. How is speed? Are you using it for immich?

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                                      @msbt nice, thanks! Will have to read out on that. How is speed? Are you using it for immich?

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                                      msbt
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                                      @andreasdueren you're welcome, I forgot to post the Hetzner docs, they also have a bit of information on that. Speeds are fine, never had any issues with various kinds of media.

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