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Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)

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  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

    @timconsidine Significant note on the security advice on this one:

    • https://docs.clawd.bot/gateway/security

    Needs to be very much locked-down by default, given the capabilities.

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    timconsidine
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    @marcusquinn yes, critical - looking into 'surfacing' all of that, and exploring whether it is possible to invoke sandboxing out of the box.
    But YouTube is overflowing with videos on security issues, may put some in the POSTINSTALL

    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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    • timconsidineT timconsidine

      @marcusquinn yes, critical - looking into 'surfacing' all of that, and exploring whether it is possible to invoke sandboxing out of the box.
      But YouTube is overflowing with videos on security issues, may put some in the POSTINSTALL

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      marcusquinn
      wrote on last edited by
      #10

      @timconsidine Yup. At least link to that page in the readme/instructions.

      Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
      Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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        #11

        Thank you so much, this bot is really great. Seamless integration with the existing messaging system offers many use cases.

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        • Z zonzonzon

          Thank you so much, this bot is really great. Seamless integration with the existing messaging system offers many use cases.

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          marcusquinn
          wrote on last edited by
          #12

          @zonzonzon I can see uses for many of these talking to each other and delegating tasks.

          Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
          Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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            timconsidine
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            #13

            to those wanting the package :

            • please do your research now while waiting about security issues, and sandboxing. There is tons of online blog posts and YouTube videos. Just so you can be clear.
            • getting close to a package, but not quite there yet

            Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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              #14

              Wow things are moving so fast.. ⏩

              Anthropic complained Clawd is too close to Claude, so they rebranded to Moltbot. The next evolution, ha brilliant. 😆

              https://github.com/moltbot/moltbot

              Conscious tech

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                #15

                Hoping to release Moltbot (was Clawdbot) for Cloudron later today.

                But off to hospital briefly (hopefully) so bear with me.

                Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                  #16

                  Hope your hospital visit went smoothly @timconsidine

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    timconsidine
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                    wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                    #17

                    Yay ! 🍾
                    Later than hoped, but done now.

                    I have packaged Moltbot for Cloudron (was Clawdbot) including its browser GUI.
                    Repo : git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-moltbot
                    Built public docker image : tcmbp132021/cloudron-moltbot:latest
                    Available on ccai.appx.uk (or your own CCAI-P but re-import the master catalogue)

                    Frankly the GUI is not fully developed, and still requires manual configuration in the (ugly but functional) CLI.
                    But hopefully with the fast pace of development, it will become 100%.

                    I'm putting this out with an ALPHA status, because I am still testing it out, so don't really know what works and what doesn't. Equally I know there is a lot of interest in it, so rushed it out as ALPHA.
                    Maybe the 'bleeding edge' / 'edge of seats' brigade can help me out 😄

                    TBH AgentZero (https://forum.cloudron.io/post/119353) holds more interest for me, so not currently sure if I will use Moltbot in practice, but as it's been getting lots of profile, it's fun to explore and compare and discover its capabilities.

                    Many of you wanting this on Cloudron are probably 2 steps ahead of me in terms of understanding and configuring Moltbot for real use.
                    So feedback and your guidance is welcome.


                    Side-note on Packaging : I lost time packaging this because I played with Claude Code (CLI and VS-Code plugin), then Opencode (also CLI and VS-Code).
                    TBH there was learning time on those, and neither cut it fully for me.
                    Opencode is good, but didn't perform as well as my standard dev setup.
                    That's probably an issue of models used, but none performed as well as well as my TRAE dev assistant on "auto" model selection.
                    I will remove Claude Code from my setup as the only attraction was using it with Ollama models, but I can do that with Opencode or even TRAE.

                    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                      #18

                      The latest evolution to stay is OpenClaw as it retains its roots and is copyright free.

                      More here + backstory:
                      https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

                      The gateway really is the cool interface on almost any chat app.

                      Conscious tech

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                      • robiR robi

                        The latest evolution to stay is OpenClaw as it retains its roots and is copyright free.

                        More here + backstory:
                        https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

                        The gateway really is the cool interface on almost any chat app.

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                        #19

                        @robi openclaw is much better name
                        I just hope the code is much better and finished

                        E.g.
                        “We support iMessage”

                        • “cool”

                        “Ah, but it’s a WIP”

                        • “aarrgghh”

                        I’m excited about Moltbot/OpenClaw but I reckon it needs another couple months to be complete / stable

                        Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                        • timconsidineT timconsidine

                          @robi openclaw is much better name
                          I just hope the code is much better and finished

                          E.g.
                          “We support iMessage”

                          • “cool”

                          “Ah, but it’s a WIP”

                          • “aarrgghh”

                          I’m excited about Moltbot/OpenClaw but I reckon it needs another couple months to be complete / stable

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                          #20

                          @timconsidine I hear you. The experience is so different if you choose an option that isn't as polished yet.

                          I would suggest Telegram or Discord to start as those work well. Haven't tried others.

                          Conscious tech

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                          • robiR robi

                            @timconsidine I hear you. The experience is so different if you choose an option that isn't as polished yet.

                            I would suggest Telegram or Discord to start as those work well. Haven't tried others.

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                            timconsidine
                            App Dev
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #21

                            @robi I have Telegram working. Need to configure some / tasks and skills to make it productive.

                            Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                              marcusquinn
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                              #22

                              Another day, another rename

                              • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

                              Apparently they're sticking with this now.

                              Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                              Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                                marcusquinn
                                wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
                                #23

                                The creator's been pretty active with bots to build bots:

                                • https://github.com/steipete

                                6e01d515-74d9-449b-8c6a-4195198996e2-image.png

                                Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                                Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                  Another day, another rename

                                  • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

                                  Apparently they're sticking with this now.

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                                  timconsidine
                                  App Dev
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #24

                                  @marcusquinn started packaging it ....

                                  Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                    The creator's been pretty active with bots to build bots:

                                    • https://github.com/steipete

                                    6e01d515-74d9-449b-8c6a-4195198996e2-image.png

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                                    App Dev
                                    wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                                    #25

                                    @marcusquinn

                                    Interesting : now I see that many of his creations are listed as plugins/extensions within moltbot/openclaw


                                    "Ship beats perfect"

                                    Ha ! Don't I know it (from packaging moltbot).
                                    Far be it from me to challenge this, but I think he should revise his approach.
                                    "Shipped and properly working, not incomplete, beats perfect" might be better.

                                    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                                    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                      Another day, another rename

                                      • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

                                      Apparently they're sticking with this now.

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                                      #26

                                      @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

                                      Another day, another rename

                                      The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                        @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

                                        Another day, another rename

                                        The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

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                                        marcusquinn
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #27

                                        @jdaviescoates sorted

                                        Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                                        Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                                          #28

                                          This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
                                          https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

                                          image.png

                                          Conscious tech

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