Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)

[robi]

Wow things are moving so fast..

Anthropic complained Clawd is too close to Claude, so they rebranded to Moltbot. The next evolution, ha brilliant.

https://github.com/moltbot/moltbot

[timconsidine]

Hoping to release Moltbot (was Clawdbot) for Cloudron later today.

But off to hospital briefly (hopefully) so bear with me.

[jdaviescoates]

Hope your hospital visit went smoothly @timconsidine

[timconsidine]

Yay !
Later than hoped, but done now.

I have packaged Moltbot for Cloudron (was Clawdbot) including its browser GUI.
Repo : git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-moltbot
Built public docker image : tcmbp132021/cloudron-moltbot:latest
Available on ccai.appx.uk (or your own CCAI-P but re-import the master catalogue)

Frankly the GUI is not fully developed, and still requires manual configuration in the (ugly but functional) CLI.
But hopefully with the fast pace of development, it will become 100%.

I'm putting this out with an ALPHA status, because I am still testing it out, so don't really know what works and what doesn't. Equally I know there is a lot of interest in it, so rushed it out as ALPHA.
Maybe the 'bleeding edge' / 'edge of seats' brigade can help me out

TBH AgentZero (https://forum.cloudron.io/post/119353) holds more interest for me, so not currently sure if I will use Moltbot in practice, but as it's been getting lots of profile, it's fun to explore and compare and discover its capabilities.

Many of you wanting this on Cloudron are probably 2 steps ahead of me in terms of understanding and configuring Moltbot for real use.
So feedback and your guidance is welcome.

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Side-note on Packaging : I lost time packaging this because I played with Claude Code (CLI and VS-Code plugin), then Opencode (also CLI and VS-Code).
TBH there was learning time on those, and neither cut it fully for me.
Opencode is good, but didn't perform as well as my standard dev setup.
That's probably an issue of models used, but none performed as well as well as my TRAE dev assistant on "auto" model selection.
I will remove Claude Code from my setup as the only attraction was using it with Ollama models, but I can do that with Opencode or even TRAE.

[robi]

The latest evolution to stay is OpenClaw as it retains its roots and is copyright free.

More here + backstory:
https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

The gateway really is the cool interface on almost any chat app.

[timconsidine]

@robi openclaw is much better name
I just hope the code is much better and finished

E.g.
“We support iMessage”

• “cool”

“Ah, but it’s a WIP”

• “aarrgghh”

I’m excited about Moltbot/OpenClaw but I reckon it needs another couple months to be complete / stable

[robi]

@timconsidine I hear you. The experience is so different if you choose an option that isn't as polished yet.

I would suggest Telegram or Discord to start as those work well. Haven't tried others.

[timconsidine]

@robi I have Telegram working. Need to configure some / tasks and skills to make it productive.

[marcusquinn]

Another day, another rename

• https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

Apparently they're sticking with this now.

[marcusquinn]

The creator's been pretty active with bots to build bots:

• https://github.com/steipete

[timconsidine]

@marcusquinn started packaging it ....

[timconsidine]

@marcusquinn

Interesting : now I see that many of his creations are listed as plugins/extensions within moltbot/openclaw

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"Ship beats perfect"

Ha ! Don't I know it (from packaging moltbot).
Far be it from me to challenge this, but I think he should revise his approach.
"Shipped and properly working, not incomplete, beats perfect" might be better.

[jdaviescoates]

@marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

Another day, another rename

The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

[marcusquinn]

@jdaviescoates sorted

[robi]

This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

[marcusquinn]

@robi Sonnet 5 is due out this week, don't think we'll need anything else once that is

[robi]

@marcusquinn token burn is real, and default config doesn't care.

Hence openrouter's auto route helps

As does this config optimization
OC efficient config - https://x.com/alexxzay/status/2017824548276600914

[timconsidine]

@robi thanks for that link
still working on my openclaw package, so that will be useful (incorporated if I can)

[crazybrad]

As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

[timconsidine]

@crazybrad I have very similar thoughts & cautions.

• packaging it because it looks cool and fun to learn what the fuss is about
• I would NEVER deploy this on a primary working computer like desktop/laptop
• deploying it in a container seems like it could be viable

I have a feeling that Agent Zero is much better than Openclaw, but I can't really say that until I have test Openclaw fairly. So continuing on the package "just in case" it can help me or others.