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AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative

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  • SansGuidonS
    SansGuidonS
    SansGuidon
    wrote on last edited by SansGuidon
    #43

    Thanks @andreasdueren
    I'm trying 🙂
    Yet we are not the only ones suffering from this product making things unnecessarily more complicated than it should : https://github.com/toeverything/AFFiNE/discussions/11722#discussioncomment-14674564

    Even after trying your options I feel I'll just give up with AFFINE. This tool just feels like rushed to support specific scenarios and is difficult to adapt to my scenarios. The UI just does not fit my expectations. Compared to many tools I'm using, the quality is a bit inconsistent and UX is not helpful.
    I had already attempted to use AFFINE in the past in a Cloudron competitor for self host and I gave up. My hope that it would be better in Cloudron has just vanished for now.

    I might retry later, anyway for now I guess I'm better off vibe coding a simple markdown editor for myself 😛 with Mistral integration and sync to my Obsidian.

    EDIT: @andreasdueren I've read about selfhosted=true parameter that need to be passed in order to enable third party API/AI models. https://torchtree.com/en/post/affine-selfhost-ai-configuration/ via https://github.com/toeverything/AFFiNE/discussions/11722#discussioncomment-14980258
    Maybe worth trying as a last attempt...

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    • SansGuidonS SansGuidon

      Thanks @andreasdueren
      I'm trying 🙂
      Yet we are not the only ones suffering from this product making things unnecessarily more complicated than it should : https://github.com/toeverything/AFFiNE/discussions/11722#discussioncomment-14674564

      Even after trying your options I feel I'll just give up with AFFINE. This tool just feels like rushed to support specific scenarios and is difficult to adapt to my scenarios. The UI just does not fit my expectations. Compared to many tools I'm using, the quality is a bit inconsistent and UX is not helpful.
      I had already attempted to use AFFINE in the past in a Cloudron competitor for self host and I gave up. My hope that it would be better in Cloudron has just vanished for now.

      I might retry later, anyway for now I guess I'm better off vibe coding a simple markdown editor for myself 😛 with Mistral integration and sync to my Obsidian.

      EDIT: @andreasdueren I've read about selfhosted=true parameter that need to be passed in order to enable third party API/AI models. https://torchtree.com/en/post/affine-selfhost-ai-configuration/ via https://github.com/toeverything/AFFiNE/discussions/11722#discussioncomment-14980258
      Maybe worth trying as a last attempt...

      andreasduerenA
      andreasduerenA
      andreasdueren
      App Dev
      wrote on last edited by
      #44

      @SansGuidon said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

      Yet we are not the only ones suffering from this product making things unnecessarily more complicated

      Yes, people are struggling. But this is still Alpha software (version 0.25.5 right now) so some instabilities are permissable. It does look pretty powerful but they are open about AI features on self-hosted not having feature parity yet.

      @SansGuidon said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

      selfhosted=true parameter

      This is already passed in the package

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      • andreasduerenA
        andreasduerenA
        andreasdueren
        App Dev
        wrote on last edited by
        #45

        Update to 0.25.7. Image at andreasdueren/affine-cloudron --tag 0.25.7-1

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          joseph
          Staff
          wrote on last edited by
          #46

          @andreasdueren When I try the affine demo, it says "Your local data is stored in the browser and may be lost. Don't risk it - enable cloud now!" . Is this how it is in your package also? Where are the documents saved?

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          • J joseph

            @andreasdueren When I try the affine demo, it says "Your local data is stored in the browser and may be lost. Don't risk it - enable cloud now!" . Is this how it is in your package also? Where are the documents saved?

            andreasduerenA
            andreasduerenA
            andreasdueren
            App Dev
            wrote on last edited by
            #47

            @Joseph Data is stored locally if you don't connect it with their hosted service or a self-hosted instance.

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            • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

              @Joseph Data is stored locally if you don't connect it with their hosted service or a self-hosted instance.

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              joseph
              Staff
              wrote on last edited by
              #48

              @andreasdueren would be great to test it with a versions file.

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              • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                @Joseph Data is stored locally if you don't connect it with their hosted service or a self-hosted instance.

                robiR
                robiR
                robi
                wrote on last edited by
                #49

                @andreasdueren in /app/data or browser?

                Conscious tech

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                • robiR robi

                  @andreasdueren in /app/data or browser?

                  andreasduerenA
                  andreasduerenA
                  andreasdueren
                  App Dev
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #50

                  @robi Likely in the browser cache when using the web UI. In the App locally on your computer

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                      LoudLemur
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                      #52

                      I hope we support AFFiNE

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                        • scookeS
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                          scooke
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                          #54

                          I've been using AFFiNE on RunTipi for quite awhile now. It started with me just wanting to check it out, but not expecting at all that I'd l branch off from my well-established routine with Joplin and Vikunja, with a dab of Trilium Notes and Outline. Well, what do you know, it's now my second most used note and writing prep destination. SO, if it gets on Cloudron, I'd switch my instance to the Cloudron one (gettipi is more for trying out apps, for me).

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                          • scookeS scooke

                            I've been using AFFiNE on RunTipi for quite awhile now. It started with me just wanting to check it out, but not expecting at all that I'd l branch off from my well-established routine with Joplin and Vikunja, with a dab of Trilium Notes and Outline. Well, what do you know, it's now my second most used note and writing prep destination. SO, if it gets on Cloudron, I'd switch my instance to the Cloudron one (gettipi is more for trying out apps, for me).

                            timconsidineT
                            timconsidineT
                            timconsidine
                            App Dev
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @scooke didn't Andreas make it into a community app ?

                            Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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                            • timconsidineT timconsidine

                              @scooke didn't Andreas make it into a community app ?

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                              scooke
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                              #56

                              @timconsidine Probably? Not sure. By and large, if it doesn't show up in my Cloudon App Store I don't install it (with the exception of some of your apps!).

                              A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                              • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                @scooke didn't Andreas make it into a community app ?

                                andreasduerenA
                                andreasduerenA
                                andreasdueren
                                App Dev
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #57

                                @timconsidine Nope. That was before those existed. Is anyone using this package? If so I'll udpdate and set up CI/CD

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                                  have tested it in the demo. is unfortunately too bad beta. and should be put back to a later time.
                                  -What I noticed putting on user didn't always work

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                                  • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                                    @timconsidine Nope. That was before those existed. Is anyone using this package? If so I'll udpdate and set up CI/CD

                                    micmcM
                                    micmcM
                                    micmc
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                                    #59

                                    @andreasdueren said:

                                    @timconsidine Nope. That was before those existed. Is anyone using this package? If so I'll udpdate and set up CI/CD

                                    It's now part of Cloudron official apps list, just appeared a few days ago.

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                                    • timconsidineT
                                      timconsidineT
                                      timconsidine
                                      App Dev
                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      @james does this need a Solved label ?

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                                        umnz
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                                        #61

                                        What classifies this app as "unstable"? I don't understand why that label appears on the store if we're not going to outline what the risks or issues with the app are?

                                        Also shouldn't this app, like other official packages get its own forum?

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                                          joseph
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                                          @umnz the package is unstable (and not the app itself) . unstable means we just packaged and released it . maybe we have to make some drastic changes to the package and break existing installations because we did something wrong.

                                          I agree that it needs it's own category. cc @james

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