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Security issue thread - PHP and eMudhra cert compromise

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  • girishG
    girishG
    girish
    Staff
    wrote last edited by
    #21

    yes, limiting access via the VPN feature is a way to fix the issue.

    To update: the base images are ready, our CI is at work pushing new packages.

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      msbt
      App Dev Super Fan
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      #22

      @girish will/can there a patch for Cloudron <10 users? I have a LAMP which requires MYSQL 8.0, that's why I haven't upgraded to 9.2.0 yet, to avoid compatibility issues with MYSQL 8.4 😬

      Edit: Might opt for a custom app, that's not a healthy way to maintain that LAMP app 😅

      Unrelated: Great response time and effort for the fixes, much appreciated! ♥

      Happy Hosting & Web Development

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        maxkreg
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        #23

        I powered off my netcup Cloudron servers a few hours ago and I´m now browsing through the forum, gathering info.
        Would this be a sensible restart procedure, once cloudron and package updates are available?

        • Before booting, restrict inbound access at the provider firewall to my IP only (SSH/HTTPS, covering IPv4 and IPv6), initially blocking other outbound traffic except administrative replies - if possible
        • Boot normally and stop all apps through the dashboard.
        • Allow the outbound connectivity needed for updates (no idea how..), verify/update Ubuntu’s ca-certificates, and install Cloudron 10.1.6 when available as laid out in @girish´s first post
        • Update and test app packages individually once available, keeping unpatched apps stopped before restoring public access.

        Would this make preventing Docker from starting during boot unnecessary? Also, is restricting inbound access sufficient for temporary operation, or should apps awaiting CA/runtime fixes remain stopped because of their outbound TLS connections?

        Thank you guys being as fast and commited as you are 🙂

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        • sebastienserreS
          sebastienserreS
          sebastienserre
          wrote last edited by
          #24

          How to receive the PHP fix ? I don't see any updates?
          Do I need to stop my PHP apps ?

          He/Him - Native language: French

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          • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

            How to receive the PHP fix ? I don't see any updates?
            Do I need to stop my PHP apps ?

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            jcaruso
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            #25

            @sebastienserre Individual PHP apps will need to be updated. I just noticed that WordPress has been updated but others aren't yet. It sounds like the automated systems are still testing and building updates and they'll be ready soon.

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            • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

              How to receive the PHP fix ? I don't see any updates?
              Do I need to stop my PHP apps ?

              humptyH
              humptyH
              humpty
              wrote last edited by
              #26

              @sebastienserre yes, it's best to stop the PHP-based apps. You can see which apps are affected a few posts up. App updates are being rolled out. For instance, Wordpress and Freescout fixes are ready. As for the server, go to the initial post, log in to your server(s) via SSH, and run the commands to make sure the server is up to date. That's all you need to do right now.

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                jdbaker
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                Yinz are true heroes!

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                • luckowL luckow

                  @jdaviescoates as fas as i know:
                  2fauth
                  ampache
                  bookstack
                  castopod
                  dokuwiki
                  dolibarr
                  easyappointments
                  espocrm
                  firefly-iii
                  freescout
                  freshrss
                  glpi
                  grav
                  humhub
                  invoiceninja
                  jirafeau
                  kanboard
                  kimai
                  koel
                  leantime
                  limesurvey
                  lychee
                  matomo
                  mautic
                  mediawiki
                  monica
                  moodle
                  nextcloud
                  omeka-s
                  opodsync
                  osticket
                  piwigo
                  pixelfed
                  privatebin
                  roundcube
                  rss-bridge
                  shaarli
                  snappymail
                  snipeit
                  tachyon
                  tinytinyrss
                  wallabag
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                  wordpress-developer
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                  xbackbone
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                  Teiluj
                  wrote last edited by Teiluj
                  #28

                  @luckow said:

                  @jdaviescoates as fas as i know:
                  2fauth
                  ...
                  yourls

                  Is there such list for Community apps also?

                  Thanks @staff and @all for the prompt community actions

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                  • humptyH humpty

                    @sebastienserre yes, it's best to stop the PHP-based apps. You can see which apps are affected a few posts up. App updates are being rolled out. For instance, Wordpress and Freescout fixes are ready. As for the server, go to the initial post, log in to your server(s) via SSH, and run the commands to make sure the server is up to date. That's all you need to do right now.

                    sebastienserreS
                    sebastienserreS
                    sebastienserre
                    wrote last edited by
                    #29

                    @humpty I followed steps on the server, it's up-to-date.
                    I run Cloudron 10.1.5, is a 10.1.6 will be released orno need it's per apps based ?

                    He/Him - Native language: French

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                    • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

                      @humpty I followed steps on the server, it's up-to-date.
                      I run Cloudron 10.1.5, is a 10.1.6 will be released orno need it's per apps based ?

                      humptyH
                      humptyH
                      humpty
                      wrote last edited by humpty
                      #30

                      @sebastienserre 10.1.6 is needed and on the way. Stay tuned.

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                      • girishG
                        girishG
                        girish
                        Staff
                        wrote last edited by
                        #31

                        The internal priority is to get the PHP apps updated first. The PHP issue is far more severe than the certificate issue (which requires the DNS or something else to be compromised to work). In that sense, 10.1.6 will happen but after most of the PHP apps are updated.

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                          OneTools Project
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                          #32

                          Is putting the concerned apps into recovery mode until the updates are there enough to "secure" them?

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                          • O OneTools Project

                            Is putting the concerned apps into recovery mode until the updates are there enough to "secure" them?

                            jdaviescoatesJ
                            jdaviescoatesJ
                            jdaviescoates
                            Super Fan
                            wrote last edited by
                            #33

                            @OneTools-Project I don't know. I've stopped all of mine. But you can't update stopped apps, so you have to restarted the again to update them. I'm taking advantage of the Cloudron CLI for the first time to make this process quicker and easier. And Claude just gave me this to restart and then force start all my WordPress apps that were all stuck on a wrong 4.0.0 version number and so weren't able to update:

                            for a in $(cloudron list | awk '$5=="stopped" && $3=="org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@4.0.0" {print $1}'); do cloudron start --app "$a" && cloudron update --app "$a" --appstore-id org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0 --force; done
                            

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            • GrienauerG
                              GrienauerG
                              Grienauer
                              wrote last edited by
                              #34

                              Do we know when the cloudron Update is available? Thank you all for you work!

                              Drupal CMS and Open Source Expert, Mautic Community lead Secretary

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                              • GrienauerG Grienauer

                                Do we know when the cloudron Update is available? Thank you all for you work!

                                dsp76D
                                dsp76D
                                dsp76
                                wrote last edited by
                                #35

                                @Grienauer Packages are being updated one by one. Many are already patched.

                                (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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                                • andreasduerenA
                                  andreasduerenA
                                  andreasdueren
                                  App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #36

                                  https://thehackernews.com/2026/10/critical-gitlab-flaw-cvss-100-could.html One more thing @girish @nebulon

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                                  • ei8fdbE
                                    ei8fdbE
                                    ei8fdb
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #37

                                    Thank you @girish @nebulon @james and other Cloudron staff I don't know about. I checked in earlier and saw you were in the process of reacting to the news. And I wasn't stressed, I knew it'd be fixed.

                                    I dropped Internet traffic to my homeserver Cloudron and decided to wait patiently. My small company users went for 🍻. 🙂 And now I'm seeing updates being available for the apps I run. Click...click...one by one.

                                    We don't see all the frantic work you've all been doing, but your fast response and updating is a credit to you all. You provide a great service.

                                    When this one is "finished", I hope you get a long beer and a longer sleep. 👏

                                    If only all companies responded as fast as you.

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                                    • girishG girish

                                      There are two major security issues that hit today morning.

                                      • eMudhra Certificate compromise - https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com
                                      • PHP issue - https://cert.europa.eu/publications/security-advisories/2026-018/ . The recommendation here is to shut down your PHP sites entirely. FWIW, we have shutdown our own matomo, freescout, mautic, humhub .

                                      We are also updating https://social.cloudron.io/@cloudron and https://x.com/CloudronIO as we get more information. Public newsletter link - https://newsletter.cloudron.io/archive/2026-10-21-php-emudhra

                                      PHP RCE

                                      We have already started rolling out updates for the apps.

                                      Status as of 22 OCT 19:20 CEST - Around 175 packages have been updated. ~20 or so remain. We are working through them diligently. It's complicated because sometimes upstream has gone all silent.

                                      Status as of 23 OCT 9:20 CEST - Pretty much all packages updated. Only 3-4 remain. All PHP apps are updated.

                                      eMudhra Certificate compromise

                                      Ubuntu has released the necessary CA store update - https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-8944-1 . All Cloudron packages have been updated to include the new CA store.

                                      Cloudron already enables automatic security updates on the server. But you can and should check this manually.

                                      SSH into your server and run:

                                      # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
                                      installed: 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1
                                      

                                      This should say 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1 atleast. The first part is the date, and it must be equal to or later than that. The last part of the string will differ based on your ubuntu version (for example, 20260816ubuntu0.22.04.1 is valid).

                                      You can check when the above package arrived via automatic security update:

                                      # grep -A2 'ca-certificates' /var/log/apt/history.log | tail -n 2
                                      Upgrade: ca-certificates:amd64 (20260601~26.04.1, 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1)
                                      End-Date: 2026-10-21  06:59:55
                                      

                                      If the ca-certificates was not updated, update ca-certificates package manually:

                                      # apt-get update
                                      # apt-get install -y ca-certificates
                                      

                                      Now to be 100% sure, check that the cert is not in trust bundle:

                                      # openssl crl2pkcs7 -nocrl -certfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt  | openssl pkcs7 -print_certs -noout | grep -F "emSign ECC Root CA - G3"   && echo "STILL IN TRUST BUNDLE" || echo "removed from trust bundle"
                                      

                                      It should say removed from trust bundle

                                      Cloudron update

                                      Cloudron 10.1.6 is coming soon with an update to nodejs - https://github.com/nodejs/node/releases/tag/v24.22.1 (via this change). You should update to Cloudron 10.1.6 at the earliest, when it's available. Other parts of Cloudron like nginx, docker will use the host CA bundle automatically and are safe. At this point, there is nothing you (the user) can do until we release this.

                                      New base images

                                      This section is for packagers.

                                      New images:

                                      cloudron/base:6.0.1@sha256:7b1e729960c3ca312d26e886917ba89483241bba0219ff292858e10d9d5768ee
                                      cloudron/node-base:24-20261021@sha256:7435d8aca138ce01cfca4cd7ec05683223b8f5d7198c9abdaaefa1b6ba14b4c6 (Per https://nodejs.org/en/blog/vulnerability/october-2026-security-releases , Node.js v22.23.4, Node.js v24.22.1
                                      Node.js v26.12.1 are updated)

                                      I am investigating python. Per https://discuss.python.org/t/information-for-python-users-regarding-emudhra-emsign-ca-certificate-security-incident/109576, ensure pip >= 26.2.2 .

                                      PHP versions are out -PHP 8.5.12 , PHP 8.4.27 , PHP 8.3.36
                                      PHP 8.2.35 . We are building new packages . Special thanks to oerdnj from https://codeberg.org/oerdnj/deb.sury.org/issues/145

                                      New base images: cloudron/php-base:8.5-20261021 and cloudron/php-base:8.4-20261021

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                                      thoresson
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #38

                                      Cloudron already enables automatic security updates on the host. But you can and should check this manually.

                                      First run:

                                      # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
                                      installed: 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1
                                      

                                      Slightly off topic for this thread, but asking here as others might run into the same issue when working with the PHP CVE: What if the date was in June? What could cause the automatic security updates to fail?

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                                        leighmhart
                                        wrote last edited by leighmhart
                                        #39

                                        Turned off my Castopod 1.15.5 (org.castopod.cloudronapp@2.13.4) for now as it is running PHP 8.3.6 - hoping a 2year jump in minor semantic versions isn't as rough as it sounds it might be...

                                        Edit: Good news the upstream has fixed this one already https://github.com/ad-aures/castopod/releases/tag/v1.15.6 Castopod 1.15.6 - so it looks to me like a maintainer just needs to bump the php-base to match - e.g.: cloudron/php-base:8.4-20261021 and update the manifest for v1.15.6 ?

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

                                          robiR
                                          robiR
                                          robi
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                                          #40

                                          @girish said:

                                          @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

                                          No worries, there's a new node 0day too!

                                          Frequency tech & energy mastery

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