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Security issue thread - PHP and eMudhra cert compromise

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  • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

    @humpty I followed steps on the server, it's up-to-date.
    I run Cloudron 10.1.5, is a 10.1.6 will be released orno need it's per apps based ?

    humptyH
    humptyH
    humpty
    wrote last edited by humpty
    #30

    @sebastienserre 10.1.6 is needed and on the way. Stay tuned.

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    • girishG
      girishG
      girish
      Staff
      wrote last edited by
      #31

      The internal priority is to get the PHP apps updated first. The PHP issue is far more severe than the certificate issue (which requires the DNS or something else to be compromised to work). In that sense, 10.1.6 will happen but after most of the PHP apps are updated.

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        O
        OneTools Project
        wrote last edited by
        #32

        Is putting the concerned apps into recovery mode until the updates are there enough to "secure" them?

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        • O OneTools Project

          Is putting the concerned apps into recovery mode until the updates are there enough to "secure" them?

          jdaviescoatesJ
          jdaviescoatesJ
          jdaviescoates
          Super Fan
          wrote last edited by
          #33

          @OneTools-Project I don't know. I've stopped all of mine. But you can't update stopped apps, so you have to restarted the again to update them. I'm taking advantage of the Cloudron CLI for the first time to make this process quicker and easier. And Claude just gave me this to restart and then force start all my WordPress apps that were all stuck on a wrong 4.0.0 version number and so weren't able to update:

          for a in $(cloudron list | awk '$5=="stopped" && $3=="org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@4.0.0" {print $1}'); do cloudron start --app "$a" && cloudron update --app "$a" --appstore-id org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0 --force; done
          

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • GrienauerG
            GrienauerG
            Grienauer
            wrote last edited by
            #34

            Do we know when the cloudron Update is available? Thank you all for you work!

            Drupal CMS and Open Source Expert, Mautic Community lead Secretary

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            • GrienauerG Grienauer

              Do we know when the cloudron Update is available? Thank you all for you work!

              dsp76D
              dsp76D
              dsp76
              wrote last edited by
              #35

              @Grienauer Packages are being updated one by one. Many are already patched.

              (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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              • andreasduerenA
                andreasduerenA
                andreasdueren
                App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
                wrote last edited by
                #36

                https://thehackernews.com/2026/10/critical-gitlab-flaw-cvss-100-could.html One more thing @girish @nebulon

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                • ei8fdbE
                  ei8fdbE
                  ei8fdb
                  wrote last edited by
                  #37

                  Thank you @girish @nebulon @james and other Cloudron staff I don't know about. I checked in earlier and saw you were in the process of reacting to the news. And I wasn't stressed, I knew it'd be fixed.

                  I dropped Internet traffic to my homeserver Cloudron and decided to wait patiently. My small company users went for 🍻. 🙂 And now I'm seeing updates being available for the apps I run. Click...click...one by one.

                  We don't see all the frantic work you've all been doing, but your fast response and updating is a credit to you all. You provide a great service.

                  When this one is "finished", I hope you get a long beer and a longer sleep. 👏

                  If only all companies responded as fast as you.

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                  • girishG girish

                    There are two major security issues that hit today morning.

                    • eMudhra Certificate compromise - https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com
                    • PHP issue - https://cert.europa.eu/publications/security-advisories/2026-018/ . The recommendation here is to shut down your PHP sites entirely. FWIW, we have shutdown our own matomo, freescout, mautic, humhub .

                    We are also updating https://social.cloudron.io/@cloudron and https://x.com/CloudronIO as we get more information.

                    eMudhra Certificate compromise

                    Ubuntu has released the necessary CA store update - https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-8944-1 .

                    To fix this, we need:

                    • Host package update
                    • Cloudron update
                    • Package updates. There are over 200 packages to be updated. This will happen over the coming days.

                    Host package update

                    Cloudron already enables automatic security updates on the host. But you can and should check this manually.

                    First run:

                    # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
                    installed: 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1
                    

                    This should say 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1 atleast. The first part is the date, and it must be later than that. The last part of the string will differ based on your ubuntu version (for example, 20260816ubuntu0.22.04.1 is valid).

                    You can check when the above package arrived via automatic security update:

                    # grep -A2 'ca-certificates' /var/log/apt/history.log | tail -n 2
                    Upgrade: ca-certificates:amd64 (20260601~26.04.1, 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1)
                    End-Date: 2026-10-21  06:59:55
                    

                    If the ca-certificates was not updated, update ca-certificates package manually:

                    # apt-get update
                    # apt-get install -y ca-certificates
                    

                    Now to be 100% sure, check that the cert is not in trust bundle:

                    # openssl crl2pkcs7 -nocrl -certfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt  | openssl pkcs7 -print_certs -noout | grep -F "emSign ECC Root CA - G3"   && echo "STILL IN TRUST BUNDLE" || echo "removed from trust bundle"
                    

                    It should say removed from trust bundle

                    Cloudron update

                    Cloudron 10.1.6 is coming soon with an update to nodejs - https://github.com/nodejs/node/releases/tag/v24.22.1 (via this change). You should update to Cloudron 10.1.6 at the earliest, when it's available. Other parts of Cloudron like nginx, docker will use the host CA bundle automatically and are safe. At this point, there is nothing you (the user) can do until we release this.

                    Package updates

                    This section is only for packagers. We have already started rolling out package updates.

                    Status as of 22 OCT 19:20 CEST - Around 175 packages have been updated. ~20 or so remain. We are working through them diligently. It's complicated because sometimes upstream has gone all silent.

                    New images:

                    cloudron/base:6.0.1@sha256:7b1e729960c3ca312d26e886917ba89483241bba0219ff292858e10d9d5768ee
                    cloudron/node-base:24-20261021@sha256:7435d8aca138ce01cfca4cd7ec05683223b8f5d7198c9abdaaefa1b6ba14b4c6 (Per https://nodejs.org/en/blog/vulnerability/october-2026-security-releases , Node.js v22.23.4, Node.js v24.22.1
                    Node.js v26.12.1 are updated)

                    I am investigating python. Per https://discuss.python.org/t/information-for-python-users-regarding-emudhra-emsign-ca-certificate-security-incident/109576, ensure pip >= 26.2.2 .

                    PHP issue

                    PHP versions are out -PHP 8.5.12 , PHP 8.4.27 , PHP 8.3.36
                    PHP 8.2.35 . We are building new packages . Special thanks to oerdnj from https://codeberg.org/oerdnj/deb.sury.org/issues/145

                    New base images: cloudron/php-base:8.5-20261021 and cloudron/php-base:8.4-20261021

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                    T
                    thoresson
                    wrote last edited by
                    #38

                    Cloudron already enables automatic security updates on the host. But you can and should check this manually.

                    First run:

                    # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
                    installed: 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1
                    

                    Slightly off topic for this thread, but asking here as others might run into the same issue when working with the PHP CVE: What if the date was in June? What could cause the automatic security updates to fail?

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                      leighmhart
                      wrote last edited by leighmhart
                      #39

                      Turned off my Castopod 1.15.5 (org.castopod.cloudronapp@2.13.4) for now as it is running PHP 8.3.6 - hoping a 2year jump in minor semantic versions isn't as rough as it sounds it might be...

                      Edit: Good news the upstream has fixed this one already https://github.com/ad-aures/castopod/releases/tag/v1.15.6 Castopod 1.15.6 - so it looks to me like a maintainer just needs to bump the php-base to match - e.g.: cloudron/php-base:8.4-20261021 and update the manifest for v1.15.6 ?

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                      • girishG girish

                        @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

                        robiR
                        robiR
                        robi
                        wrote last edited by
                        #40

                        @girish said:

                        @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

                        No worries, there's a new node 0day too!

                        Frequency tech

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                        • necrevistonnezrN
                          necrevistonnezrN
                          necrevistonnezr
                          Super Fan
                          wrote last edited by necrevistonnezr
                          #41

                          Do we have a list which Apps use PHP and should therefore be stopped, currently?

                          Edit, this does the trick, check in running and stopped apps if and which php is inside:

                          for c in $(docker ps -aq); do
                            img=$(docker inspect -f '{{.Config.Image}}' $c)
                            if [ "$(docker inspect -f '{{.State.Running}}' $c)" = "true" ]; then
                              docker top $c -eo pid,comm 2>/dev/null | grep -qE '\s(php|php-fpm[0-9.]*|apache2|frankenphp)$' || continue
                              state="running"
                              v=$(docker exec $c php -r 'echo PHP_VERSION;' 2>/dev/null || echo "?")
                            else
                              state="stopped"
                              v=$(docker run --rm --network none --entrypoint php "$img" -r 'echo PHP_VERSION;' 2>/dev/null) || continue
                            fi
                            case "${v%.*}" in
                              8.5) fix=8.5.12 ;; 8.4) fix=8.4.27 ;; 8.3) fix=8.3.36 ;; 8.2) fix=8.2.35 ;; *) fix="" ;;
                            esac
                            if [ -z "$fix" ]; then s="UNKNOWN/EOL"
                            elif [ "$(printf '%s\n' "$v" "$fix" | sort -V | head -1)" = "$fix" ]; then s="PATCHED"
                            else s="VULNERABLE"; fi
                            printf '%-12s %-8s %-10s %s\n' "$s" "$state" "$v" "$img"
                          done
                          

                          Checks all Cloudron app containers for PHP versions affected by CVE-2026-109618 / CVE-2026-109619 (CERT-EU advisory 2026-018). Fixed in PHP 8.5.12, 8.4.27, 8.3.36 and 8.2.35.

                          • Running apps: only listed if a PHP web process (php-fpm, apache2/mod_php, frankenphp) is actually running; version is read via docker exec.
                          • Stopped apps: version is read from the image in a throwaway container without network access. The app itself is not started.

                          For me, it’s “just” FreshRSS and Tachyon:

                          VULNERABLE   stopped  8.5.10     cloudron/org.freshrss.cloudronapp:202610200521170000
                          VULNERABLE   stopped  8.5.10     cloudron/com.github.kimusan.tachyon.cloudronapp:202610170524260000
                          
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                          • sebastienserreS
                            sebastienserreS
                            sebastienserre
                            wrote last edited by sebastienserre
                            #42

                            is a package for Dolibarr will be edited soon ?
                            package 1.15.1 runs PHP 8.4.24
                            Thanks

                            He/Him - Native language: French

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                            • girishG
                              girishG
                              girish
                              Staff
                              wrote last edited by
                              #43

                              OK, so we are 2/3rds into our package updates. over 150 packages have been updated out of the over 200 packages we maintain.

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                              • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

                                is a package for Dolibarr will be edited soon ?
                                package 1.15.1 runs PHP 8.4.24
                                Thanks

                                girishG
                                girishG
                                girish
                                Staff
                                wrote last edited by
                                #44

                                @sebastienserre yup, there will be an update soon.

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                                • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                                  https://thehackernews.com/2026/10/critical-gitlab-flaw-cvss-100-could.html One more thing @girish @nebulon

                                  girishG
                                  girishG
                                  girish
                                  Staff
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #45

                                  @andreasdueren said:

                                  https://thehackernews.com/2026/10/critical-gitlab-flaw-cvss-100-could.html One more thing @girish @nebulon

                                  early xmas with all these issues hitting at the same time 🎄 🎅 🎁 ❄️⛄ 🦌

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    @sebastienserre yup, there will be an update soon.

                                    sebastienserreS
                                    sebastienserreS
                                    sebastienserre
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #46

                                    girish Thank you.
                                    Waiting for it.

                                    He/Him - Native language: French

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                                      p44
                                      translator
                                      wrote last edited by p44
                                      #47

                                      Hi @girish on a single Wordpress Developer instance I was asked to update to org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0 and I updated.

                                      But all other Wordpress Developer instances, even if I hit "check updates”, nothing happens...

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                                      • P p44

                                        Hi @girish on a single Wordpress Developer instance I was asked to update to org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0 and I updated.

                                        But all other Wordpress Developer instances, even if I hit "check updates”, nothing happens...

                                        J
                                        J
                                        joseph
                                        Staff
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #48

                                        @p44 can you check the version of the WP developer instances? It is in the info tab.

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                                          p44
                                          translator
                                          wrote last edited by p44
                                          #49

                                          @joseph

                                          I have:

                                          WordPress (Developer) 7.0
                                          Package version
                                          org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@4.0.0

                                          The (only) one updated shows now:

                                          WordPress (Developer) 7.1.3
                                          Package version
                                          org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0

                                          My question is: if there is an available update, why if I hit "check for updates” nothing happens?

                                          Thanks a lot

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