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Security issue thread - PHP and eMudhra cert compromise

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  • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

    How to receive the PHP fix ? I don't see any updates?
    Do I need to stop my PHP apps ?

    humptyH
    humptyH
    humpty
    wrote last edited by
    #26

    @sebastienserre yes, it's best to stop the PHP-based apps. You can see which apps are affected a few posts up. App updates are being rolled out. For instance, Wordpress and Freescout fixes are ready. As for the server, go to the initial post, log in to your server(s) via SSH, and run the commands to make sure the server is up to date. That's all you need to do right now.

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      jdbaker
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      #27

      Yinz are true heroes!

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      • luckowL luckow

        @jdaviescoates as fas as i know:
        2fauth
        ampache
        bookstack
        castopod
        dokuwiki
        dolibarr
        easyappointments
        espocrm
        firefly-iii
        freescout
        freshrss
        glpi
        grav
        humhub
        invoiceninja
        jirafeau
        kanboard
        kimai
        koel
        leantime
        limesurvey
        lychee
        matomo
        mautic
        mediawiki
        monica
        moodle
        nextcloud
        omeka-s
        opodsync
        osticket
        piwigo
        pixelfed
        privatebin
        roundcube
        rss-bridge
        shaarli
        snappymail
        snipeit
        tachyon
        tinytinyrss
        wallabag
        wallos
        wordpress-developer
        wordpress-managed
        xbackbone
        yourls

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        Teiluj
        wrote last edited by Teiluj
        #28

        @luckow said:

        @jdaviescoates as fas as i know:
        2fauth
        ...
        yourls

        Is there such list for Community apps also?

        Thanks @staff and @all for the prompt community actions

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        • humptyH humpty

          @sebastienserre yes, it's best to stop the PHP-based apps. You can see which apps are affected a few posts up. App updates are being rolled out. For instance, Wordpress and Freescout fixes are ready. As for the server, go to the initial post, log in to your server(s) via SSH, and run the commands to make sure the server is up to date. That's all you need to do right now.

          sebastienserreS
          sebastienserreS
          sebastienserre
          wrote last edited by
          #29

          @humpty I followed steps on the server, it's up-to-date.
          I run Cloudron 10.1.5, is a 10.1.6 will be released orno need it's per apps based ?

          He/Him - Native language: French

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          • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

            @humpty I followed steps on the server, it's up-to-date.
            I run Cloudron 10.1.5, is a 10.1.6 will be released orno need it's per apps based ?

            humptyH
            humptyH
            humpty
            wrote last edited by humpty
            #30

            @sebastienserre 10.1.6 is needed and on the way. Stay tuned.

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            • girishG
              girishG
              girish
              Staff
              wrote last edited by
              #31

              The internal priority is to get the PHP apps updated first. The PHP issue is far more severe than the certificate issue (which requires the DNS or something else to be compromised to work). In that sense, 10.1.6 will happen but after most of the PHP apps are updated.

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                OneTools Project
                wrote last edited by
                #32

                Is putting the concerned apps into recovery mode until the updates are there enough to "secure" them?

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                • O OneTools Project

                  Is putting the concerned apps into recovery mode until the updates are there enough to "secure" them?

                  jdaviescoatesJ
                  jdaviescoatesJ
                  jdaviescoates
                  Super Fan
                  wrote last edited by
                  #33

                  @OneTools-Project I don't know. I've stopped all of mine. But you can't update stopped apps, so you have to restarted the again to update them. I'm taking advantage of the Cloudron CLI for the first time to make this process quicker and easier. And Claude just gave me this to restart and then force start all my WordPress apps that were all stuck on a wrong 4.0.0 version number and so weren't able to update:

                  for a in $(cloudron list | awk '$5=="stopped" && $3=="org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@4.0.0" {print $1}'); do cloudron start --app "$a" && cloudron update --app "$a" --appstore-id org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0 --force; done
                  

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • GrienauerG
                    GrienauerG
                    Grienauer
                    wrote last edited by
                    #34

                    Do we know when the cloudron Update is available? Thank you all for you work!

                    Drupal CMS and Open Source Expert, Mautic Community lead Secretary

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                    • GrienauerG Grienauer

                      Do we know when the cloudron Update is available? Thank you all for you work!

                      dsp76D
                      dsp76D
                      dsp76
                      wrote last edited by
                      #35

                      @Grienauer Packages are being updated one by one. Many are already patched.

                      (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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                      • andreasduerenA
                        andreasduerenA
                        andreasdueren
                        App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
                        wrote last edited by
                        #36

                        https://thehackernews.com/2026/10/critical-gitlab-flaw-cvss-100-could.html One more thing @girish @nebulon

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                        • ei8fdbE
                          ei8fdbE
                          ei8fdb
                          wrote last edited by
                          #37

                          Thank you @girish @nebulon @james and other Cloudron staff I don't know about. I checked in earlier and saw you were in the process of reacting to the news. And I wasn't stressed, I knew it'd be fixed.

                          I dropped Internet traffic to my homeserver Cloudron and decided to wait patiently. My small company users went for 🍻. πŸ™‚ And now I'm seeing updates being available for the apps I run. Click...click...one by one.

                          We don't see all the frantic work you've all been doing, but your fast response and updating is a credit to you all. You provide a great service.

                          When this one is "finished", I hope you get a long beer and a longer sleep. πŸ‘

                          If only all companies responded as fast as you.

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                          • girishG girish

                            There are two major security issues that hit today morning.

                            • eMudhra Certificate compromise - https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com
                            • PHP issue - https://cert.europa.eu/publications/security-advisories/2026-018/ . The recommendation here is to shut down your PHP sites entirely. FWIW, we have shutdown our own matomo, freescout, mautic, humhub .

                            We are also updating https://social.cloudron.io/@cloudron and https://x.com/CloudronIO as we get more information. Public newsletter link - https://newsletter.cloudron.io/archive/2026-10-21-php-emudhra

                            PHP RCE

                            We have already started rolling out updates for the apps.

                            Status as of 22 OCT 19:20 CEST - Around 175 packages have been updated. ~20 or so remain. We are working through them diligently. It's complicated because sometimes upstream has gone all silent.

                            Status as of 23 OCT 9:20 CEST - Pretty much all packages updated. Only 3-4 remain. All PHP apps are updated.

                            eMudhra Certificate compromise

                            Ubuntu has released the necessary CA store update - https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-8944-1 . All Cloudron packages have been updated to include the new CA store.

                            Cloudron already enables automatic security updates on the server. But you can and should check this manually.

                            SSH into your server and run:

                            # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
                            installed: 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1
                            

                            This should say 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1 atleast. The first part is the date, and it must be equal to or later than that. The last part of the string will differ based on your ubuntu version (for example, 20260816ubuntu0.22.04.1 is valid).

                            You can check when the above package arrived via automatic security update:

                            # grep -A2 'ca-certificates' /var/log/apt/history.log | tail -n 2
                            Upgrade: ca-certificates:amd64 (20260601~26.04.1, 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1)
                            End-Date: 2026-10-21  06:59:55
                            

                            If the ca-certificates was not updated, update ca-certificates package manually:

                            # apt-get update
                            # apt-get install -y ca-certificates
                            

                            Now to be 100% sure, check that the cert is not in trust bundle:

                            # openssl crl2pkcs7 -nocrl -certfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt  | openssl pkcs7 -print_certs -noout | grep -F "emSign ECC Root CA - G3"   && echo "STILL IN TRUST BUNDLE" || echo "removed from trust bundle"
                            

                            It should say removed from trust bundle

                            Cloudron update

                            Cloudron 10.1.6 is coming soon with an update to nodejs - https://github.com/nodejs/node/releases/tag/v24.22.1 (via this change). You should update to Cloudron 10.1.6 at the earliest, when it's available. Other parts of Cloudron like nginx, docker will use the host CA bundle automatically and are safe. At this point, there is nothing you (the user) can do until we release this.

                            New base images

                            This section is for packagers.

                            New images:

                            cloudron/base:6.0.1@sha256:7b1e729960c3ca312d26e886917ba89483241bba0219ff292858e10d9d5768ee
                            cloudron/node-base:24-20261021@sha256:7435d8aca138ce01cfca4cd7ec05683223b8f5d7198c9abdaaefa1b6ba14b4c6 (Per https://nodejs.org/en/blog/vulnerability/october-2026-security-releases , Node.js v22.23.4, Node.js v24.22.1
                            Node.js v26.12.1 are updated)

                            I am investigating python. Per https://discuss.python.org/t/information-for-python-users-regarding-emudhra-emsign-ca-certificate-security-incident/109576, ensure pip >= 26.2.2 .

                            PHP versions are out -PHP 8.5.12 , PHP 8.4.27 , PHP 8.3.36
                            PHP 8.2.35 . We are building new packages . Special thanks to oerdnj from https://codeberg.org/oerdnj/deb.sury.org/issues/145

                            New base images: cloudron/php-base:8.5-20261021 and cloudron/php-base:8.4-20261021

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                            thoresson
                            wrote last edited by
                            #38

                            Cloudron already enables automatic security updates on the host. But you can and should check this manually.

                            First run:

                            # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
                            installed: 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1
                            

                            Slightly off topic for this thread, but asking here as others might run into the same issue when working with the PHP CVE: What if the date was in June? What could cause the automatic security updates to fail?

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                              leighmhart
                              wrote last edited by leighmhart
                              #39

                              Turned off my Castopod 1.15.5 (org.castopod.cloudronapp@2.13.4) for now as it is running PHP 8.3.6 - hoping a 2year jump in minor semantic versions isn't as rough as it sounds it might be...

                              Edit: Good news the upstream has fixed this one already https://github.com/ad-aures/castopod/releases/tag/v1.15.6 Castopod 1.15.6 - so it looks to me like a maintainer just needs to bump the php-base to match - e.g.: cloudron/php-base:8.4-20261021 and update the manifest for v1.15.6 ?

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                              • girishG girish

                                @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

                                robiR
                                robiR
                                robi
                                wrote last edited by
                                #40

                                @girish said:

                                @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

                                No worries, there's a new node 0day too!

                                Frequency tech & energy mastery

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                                • necrevistonnezrN
                                  necrevistonnezrN
                                  necrevistonnezr
                                  Super Fan
                                  wrote last edited by necrevistonnezr
                                  #41

                                  Do we have a list which Apps use PHP and should therefore be stopped, currently?

                                  Edit, this does the trick, check in running and stopped apps if and which php is inside:

                                  for c in $(docker ps -aq); do
                                    img=$(docker inspect -f '{{.Config.Image}}' $c)
                                    if [ "$(docker inspect -f '{{.State.Running}}' $c)" = "true" ]; then
                                      docker top $c -eo pid,comm 2>/dev/null | grep -qE '\s(php|php-fpm[0-9.]*|apache2|frankenphp)$' || continue
                                      state="running"
                                      v=$(docker exec $c php -r 'echo PHP_VERSION;' 2>/dev/null || echo "?")
                                    else
                                      state="stopped"
                                      v=$(docker run --rm --network none --entrypoint php "$img" -r 'echo PHP_VERSION;' 2>/dev/null) || continue
                                    fi
                                    case "${v%.*}" in
                                      8.5) fix=8.5.12 ;; 8.4) fix=8.4.27 ;; 8.3) fix=8.3.36 ;; 8.2) fix=8.2.35 ;; *) fix="" ;;
                                    esac
                                    if [ -z "$fix" ]; then s="UNKNOWN/EOL"
                                    elif [ "$(printf '%s\n' "$v" "$fix" | sort -V | head -1)" = "$fix" ]; then s="PATCHED"
                                    else s="VULNERABLE"; fi
                                    printf '%-12s %-8s %-10s %s\n' "$s" "$state" "$v" "$img"
                                  done
                                  

                                  Checks all Cloudron app containers for PHP versions affected by CVE-2026-109618 / CVE-2026-109619 (CERT-EU advisory 2026-018). Fixed in PHP 8.5.12, 8.4.27, 8.3.36 and 8.2.35.

                                  • Running apps: only listed if a PHP web process (php-fpm, apache2/mod_php, frankenphp) is actually running; version is read via docker exec.
                                  • Stopped apps: version is read from the image in a throwaway container without network access. The app itself is not started.

                                  For me, it’s β€œjust” FreshRSS and Tachyon:

                                  VULNERABLE   stopped  8.5.10     cloudron/org.freshrss.cloudronapp:202610200521170000
                                  VULNERABLE   stopped  8.5.10     cloudron/com.github.kimusan.tachyon.cloudronapp:202610170524260000
                                  
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                                  • sebastienserreS
                                    sebastienserreS
                                    sebastienserre
                                    wrote last edited by sebastienserre
                                    #42

                                    is a package for Dolibarr will be edited soon ?
                                    package 1.15.1 runs PHP 8.4.24
                                    Thanks

                                    He/Him - Native language: French

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                                    • girishG
                                      girishG
                                      girish
                                      Staff
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #43

                                      OK, so we are 2/3rds into our package updates. over 150 packages have been updated out of the over 200 packages we maintain.

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                                      • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

                                        is a package for Dolibarr will be edited soon ?
                                        package 1.15.1 runs PHP 8.4.24
                                        Thanks

                                        girishG
                                        girishG
                                        girish
                                        Staff
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #44

                                        @sebastienserre yup, there will be an update soon.

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                                        • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                                          https://thehackernews.com/2026/10/critical-gitlab-flaw-cvss-100-could.html One more thing @girish @nebulon

                                          girishG
                                          girishG
                                          girish
                                          Staff
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #45

                                          @andreasdueren said:

                                          https://thehackernews.com/2026/10/critical-gitlab-flaw-cvss-100-could.html One more thing @girish @nebulon

                                          early xmas with all these issues hitting at the same time πŸŽ„ πŸŽ… 🎁 ❄️⛄ 🦌

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