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Security issue thread - PHP and eMudhra cert compromise

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  • O OneTools Project

    Is putting the concerned apps into recovery mode until the updates are there enough to "secure" them?

    jdaviescoatesJ
    jdaviescoatesJ
    jdaviescoates
    Super Fan
    wrote last edited by
    #33

    @OneTools-Project I don't know. I've stopped all of mine. But you can't update stopped apps, so you have to restarted the again to update them. I'm taking advantage of the Cloudron CLI for the first time to make this process quicker and easier. And Claude just gave me this to restart and then force start all my WordPress apps that were all stuck on a wrong 4.0.0 version number and so weren't able to update:

    for a in $(cloudron list | awk '$5=="stopped" && $3=="org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@4.0.0" {print $1}'); do cloudron start --app "$a" && cloudron update --app "$a" --appstore-id org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0 --force; done
    

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • GrienauerG
      GrienauerG
      Grienauer
      wrote last edited by
      #34

      Do we know when the cloudron Update is available? Thank you all for you work!

      Drupal CMS and Open Source Expert, Mautic Community lead Secretary

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      • GrienauerG Grienauer

        Do we know when the cloudron Update is available? Thank you all for you work!

        dsp76D
        dsp76D
        dsp76
        wrote last edited by
        #35

        @Grienauer Packages are being updated one by one. Many are already patched.

        (Ask me about B2B marketing automation & low code business solutions, if thats interesting for you.)

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        • andreasduerenA
          andreasduerenA
          andreasdueren
          wrote last edited by
          #36

          https://thehackernews.com/2026/10/critical-gitlab-flaw-cvss-100-could.html One more thing @girish @nebulon

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          • ei8fdbE
            ei8fdbE
            ei8fdb
            wrote last edited by
            #37

            Thank you @girish @nebulon @james and other Cloudron staff I don't know about. I checked in earlier and saw you were in the process of reacting to the news. And I wasn't stressed, I knew it'd be fixed.

            I dropped Internet traffic to my homeserver Cloudron and decided to wait patiently. My small company users went for 🍻. 🙂 And now I'm seeing updates being available for the apps I run. Click...click...one by one.

            We don't see all the frantic work you've all been doing, but your fast response and updating is a credit to you all. You provide a great service.

            When this one is "finished", I hope you get a long beer and a longer sleep. 👏

            If only all companies responded as fast as you.

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            • girishG girish

              There are two major security issues that hit today morning.

              • eMudhra Certificate compromise - https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com
              • PHP issue - https://cert.europa.eu/publications/security-advisories/2026-018/ . The recommendation here is to shut down your PHP sites entirely. FWIW, we have shutdown our own matomo, freescout, mautic, humhub .

              We are also updating https://social.cloudron.io/@cloudron and https://x.com/CloudronIO as we get more information. Public newsletter link - https://newsletter.cloudron.io/archive/2026-10-21-php-emudhra

              PHP RCE

              We have already started rolling out updates for the apps.

              Status as of 22 OCT 19:20 CEST - Around 175 packages have been updated. ~20 or so remain. We are working through them diligently. It's complicated because sometimes upstream has gone all silent.

              Status as of 23 OCT 9:20 CEST - Pretty much all packages updated. Only 3-4 remain. All PHP apps are updated.

              eMudhra Certificate compromise

              Ubuntu has released the necessary CA store update - https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-8944-1 . All Cloudron packages have been updated to include the new CA store.

              Cloudron already enables automatic security updates on the server. But you can and should check this manually.

              SSH into your server and run:

              # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
              installed: 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1
              

              This should say 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1 atleast. The first part is the date, and it must be equal to or later than that. The last part of the string will differ based on your ubuntu version (for example, 20260816ubuntu0.22.04.1 is valid).

              You can check when the above package arrived via automatic security update:

              # grep -A2 'ca-certificates' /var/log/apt/history.log | tail -n 2
              Upgrade: ca-certificates:amd64 (20260601~26.04.1, 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1)
              End-Date: 2026-10-21  06:59:55
              

              If the ca-certificates was not updated, update ca-certificates package manually:

              # apt-get update
              # apt-get install -y ca-certificates
              

              Now to be 100% sure, check that the cert is not in trust bundle:

              # openssl crl2pkcs7 -nocrl -certfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt  | openssl pkcs7 -print_certs -noout | grep -F "emSign ECC Root CA - G3"   && echo "STILL IN TRUST BUNDLE" || echo "removed from trust bundle"
              

              It should say removed from trust bundle

              Cloudron update

              Cloudron 10.1.6 is coming soon with an update to nodejs - https://github.com/nodejs/node/releases/tag/v24.22.1 (via this change). You should update to Cloudron 10.1.6 at the earliest, when it's available. Other parts of Cloudron like nginx, docker will use the host CA bundle automatically and are safe. At this point, there is nothing you (the user) can do until we release this.

              New base images

              This section is for packagers.

              New images:

              cloudron/base:6.0.1@sha256:7b1e729960c3ca312d26e886917ba89483241bba0219ff292858e10d9d5768ee
              cloudron/node-base:24-20261021@sha256:7435d8aca138ce01cfca4cd7ec05683223b8f5d7198c9abdaaefa1b6ba14b4c6 (Per https://nodejs.org/en/blog/vulnerability/october-2026-security-releases , Node.js v22.23.4, Node.js v24.22.1
              Node.js v26.12.1 are updated)

              I am investigating python. Per https://discuss.python.org/t/information-for-python-users-regarding-emudhra-emsign-ca-certificate-security-incident/109576, ensure pip >= 26.2.2 .

              PHP versions are out -PHP 8.5.12 , PHP 8.4.27 , PHP 8.3.36
              PHP 8.2.35 . We are building new packages . Special thanks to oerdnj from https://codeberg.org/oerdnj/deb.sury.org/issues/145

              New base images: cloudron/php-base:8.5-20261021 and cloudron/php-base:8.4-20261021

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              T
              thoresson
              wrote last edited by
              #38

              Cloudron already enables automatic security updates on the host. But you can and should check this manually.

              First run:

              # dpkg-query -W -f 'installed: ${Version}\n' ca-certificates
              installed: 20260816ubuntu0.26.04.1
              

              Slightly off topic for this thread, but asking here as others might run into the same issue when working with the PHP CVE: What if the date was in June? What could cause the automatic security updates to fail?

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                leighmhart
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                #39

                Turned off my Castopod 1.15.5 (org.castopod.cloudronapp@2.13.4) for now as it is running PHP 8.3.6 - hoping a 2year jump in minor semantic versions isn't as rough as it sounds it might be...

                Edit: Good news the upstream has fixed this one already https://github.com/ad-aures/castopod/releases/tag/v1.15.6 Castopod 1.15.6 - so it looks to me like a maintainer just needs to bump the php-base to match - e.g.: cloudron/php-base:8.4-20261021 and update the manifest for v1.15.6 ?

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                • girishG girish

                  @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

                  robiR
                  robiR
                  robi
                  wrote last edited by
                  #40

                  @girish said:

                  @humpty all our apps are node.js based .

                  No worries, there's a new node 0day too!

                  Frequency tech & energy mastery

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                  • necrevistonnezrN
                    necrevistonnezrN
                    necrevistonnezr
                    Super Fan
                    wrote last edited by necrevistonnezr
                    #41

                    Do we have a list which Apps use PHP and should therefore be stopped, currently?

                    Edit, this does the trick, check in running and stopped apps if and which php is inside:

                    for c in $(docker ps -aq); do
                      img=$(docker inspect -f '{{.Config.Image}}' $c)
                      if [ "$(docker inspect -f '{{.State.Running}}' $c)" = "true" ]; then
                        docker top $c -eo pid,comm 2>/dev/null | grep -qE '\s(php|php-fpm[0-9.]*|apache2|frankenphp)$' || continue
                        state="running"
                        v=$(docker exec $c php -r 'echo PHP_VERSION;' 2>/dev/null || echo "?")
                      else
                        state="stopped"
                        v=$(docker run --rm --network none --entrypoint php "$img" -r 'echo PHP_VERSION;' 2>/dev/null) || continue
                      fi
                      case "${v%.*}" in
                        8.5) fix=8.5.12 ;; 8.4) fix=8.4.27 ;; 8.3) fix=8.3.36 ;; 8.2) fix=8.2.35 ;; *) fix="" ;;
                      esac
                      if [ -z "$fix" ]; then s="UNKNOWN/EOL"
                      elif [ "$(printf '%s\n' "$v" "$fix" | sort -V | head -1)" = "$fix" ]; then s="PATCHED"
                      else s="VULNERABLE"; fi
                      printf '%-12s %-8s %-10s %s\n' "$s" "$state" "$v" "$img"
                    done
                    

                    Checks all Cloudron app containers for PHP versions affected by CVE-2026-109618 / CVE-2026-109619 (CERT-EU advisory 2026-018). Fixed in PHP 8.5.12, 8.4.27, 8.3.36 and 8.2.35.

                    • Running apps: only listed if a PHP web process (php-fpm, apache2/mod_php, frankenphp) is actually running; version is read via docker exec.
                    • Stopped apps: version is read from the image in a throwaway container without network access. The app itself is not started.

                    For me, it’s “just” FreshRSS and Tachyon:

                    VULNERABLE   stopped  8.5.10     cloudron/org.freshrss.cloudronapp:202610200521170000
                    VULNERABLE   stopped  8.5.10     cloudron/com.github.kimusan.tachyon.cloudronapp:202610170524260000
                    
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                    • sebastienserreS
                      sebastienserreS
                      sebastienserre
                      wrote last edited by sebastienserre
                      #42

                      is a package for Dolibarr will be edited soon ?
                      package 1.15.1 runs PHP 8.4.24
                      Thanks

                      He/Him - Native language: French

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                      • girishG
                        girishG
                        girish
                        Staff
                        wrote last edited by
                        #43

                        OK, so we are 2/3rds into our package updates. over 150 packages have been updated out of the over 200 packages we maintain.

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                        • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

                          is a package for Dolibarr will be edited soon ?
                          package 1.15.1 runs PHP 8.4.24
                          Thanks

                          girishG
                          girishG
                          girish
                          Staff
                          wrote last edited by
                          #44

                          @sebastienserre yup, there will be an update soon.

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                          • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                            https://thehackernews.com/2026/10/critical-gitlab-flaw-cvss-100-could.html One more thing @girish @nebulon

                            girishG
                            girishG
                            girish
                            Staff
                            wrote last edited by
                            #45

                            @andreasdueren said:

                            https://thehackernews.com/2026/10/critical-gitlab-flaw-cvss-100-could.html One more thing @girish @nebulon

                            early xmas with all these issues hitting at the same time 🎄 🎅 🎁 ❄️⛄ 🦌

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                            • girishG girish

                              @sebastienserre yup, there will be an update soon.

                              sebastienserreS
                              sebastienserreS
                              sebastienserre
                              wrote last edited by
                              #46

                              girish Thank you.
                              Waiting for it.

                              He/Him - Native language: French

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                                p44
                                translator
                                wrote last edited by p44
                                #47

                                Hi @girish on a single Wordpress Developer instance I was asked to update to org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0 and I updated.

                                But all other Wordpress Developer instances, even if I hit "check updates”, nothing happens...

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                                • P p44

                                  Hi @girish on a single Wordpress Developer instance I was asked to update to org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0 and I updated.

                                  But all other Wordpress Developer instances, even if I hit "check updates”, nothing happens...

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                                  J
                                  joseph
                                  Staff
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #48

                                  @p44 can you check the version of the WP developer instances? It is in the info tab.

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                                    p44
                                    translator
                                    wrote last edited by p44
                                    #49

                                    @joseph

                                    I have:

                                    WordPress (Developer) 7.0
                                    Package version
                                    org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@4.0.0

                                    The (only) one updated shows now:

                                    WordPress (Developer) 7.1.3
                                    Package version
                                    org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0

                                    My question is: if there is an available update, why if I hit "check for updates” nothing happens?

                                    Thanks a lot

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                                    • BenoitB
                                      BenoitB
                                      Benoit
                                      translator
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #50

                                      Thanks for your work @girish . Do you know if a fix is on the way for Moodle ?

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                                      • P p44

                                        @joseph

                                        I have:

                                        WordPress (Developer) 7.0
                                        Package version
                                        org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@4.0.0

                                        The (only) one updated shows now:

                                        WordPress (Developer) 7.1.3
                                        Package version
                                        org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0

                                        My question is: if there is an available update, why if I hit "check for updates” nothing happens?

                                        Thanks a lot

                                        jdaviescoatesJ
                                        jdaviescoatesJ
                                        jdaviescoates
                                        Super Fan
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #51

                                        @p44 said:

                                        WordPress (Developer) 7.0
                                        Package version
                                        org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@4.0.0

                                        You're suffering from something that got me (and others) too - that 4.0.0 release was a mistake. You need to force the update the the newer version with a lower release number using the CLI:

                                        cloudron update --app SITE_LOCATION --appstore-id org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp --force
                                        

                                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                          @p44 said:

                                          WordPress (Developer) 7.0
                                          Package version
                                          org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@4.0.0

                                          You're suffering from something that got me (and others) too - that 4.0.0 release was a mistake. You need to force the update the the newer version with a lower release number using the CLI:

                                          cloudron update --app SITE_LOCATION --appstore-id org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp --force
                                          
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                                          p44
                                          translator
                                          wrote last edited by p44
                                          #52

                                          @jdaviescoates Thanks a lot, how I can run this without installing Cloudron CLI? Eg. directly from App command line.

                                          I think if this problem is on scale, devs should release a fix also to address this specific issue...

                                          Edit:

                                          @jdaviescoates I installed Cloudron CLI and I used this string that you posted above:

                                          for a in $(cloudron list | awk '$5=="stopped" && $3=="org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@4.0.0" {print $1}'); do cloudron start --app "$a" && cloudron update --app "$a" --appstore-id org.wordpress.unmanaged.cloudronapp@3.17.0 --force; done
                                          
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