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What's coming in 6.0

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  • girishG girish

    We are continuing to work on getting many more of the apps published, see the WIP tag. Thanks to the community for really helping us out here!

    CHANGE IN PLANS: As mentioned in the 5.4 post, we decided to release some of the features listed here in an intermediary release. I have marked the features below as such.

    UPDATE 2: There is now a 5.5

    UPDATE 3: There is now a 5.6

    UPDATE 4: 6.0

    6.0 will be a feature rich release:

    • Focal support
    • Mailbox sharing - we tried IMAP based mailbox sharing but this doesn't work well for the apps we have. We will instead make it such that a single mailbox can have multiple owners.
    • Optimize WP and Nextcloud installations. This is not directly related to box code but we want to speeden things up and optimize the configs since we have a large number of installs with these 2 apps. @MooCloud_Matt has given us a lot of ideas to work with here.
    • Unified dashboard for multiple cloudron setups - This will provide a unified auth across cloudron setups plus a single dashboard to control multiple cloudrons. Details are still being worked on and I will post it once I have more info.
    • Fix access control for service provider setups - There's a few small issues. Service providers wants admin flag per app, better control of SFTP user management and also to unify PHPMyAdmin across apps. We will see what we can do.
    • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

    Already released

    • (5.4) Dark mode for dashboard
    • (5.4) File manager UI to edit the files inside apps. For the initial version, one can only view and edit the files under /app/data (i.e one cannot view the files in the read-only parts of the file system. this is because of some technical reasons)
    • (5.5) Backup upload/download speed - Currently, backups can be quite slow but we have some ideas to speed it up
    • (5.4) Allow admin to lock email and display name globally. This essentially makes the LDAP directory non-editable by normal users.
    • (5.5) Allow backup and update time to be set. Currently, this is all hard coded and it's causing problems for people working in the night πŸ™‚
    • (5.6) Mail: Configurable mail server settings - whitelist/blacklist, max message size, tls configuration. In the next release after 6.0, we will make spam settings configurable.
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    @girish said in What's coming in 6.0:

    Unified dashboard for multiple cloudron setups - This will provide a unified auth across cloudron setups plus a single dashboard to control multiple cloudrons. Details are still being worked on and I will post it once I have more info.

    does this come with group- or domain-admins who can only install apps/add and edit users from their designated domains/groups? πŸ˜‰

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      @girish said in What's coming in 6.0:

      Unified dashboard for multiple cloudron setups - This will provide a unified auth across cloudron setups plus a single dashboard to control multiple cloudrons. Details are still being worked on and I will post it once I have more info.

      does this come with group- or domain-admins who can only install apps/add and edit users from their designated domains/groups? πŸ˜‰

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      @msbt said in What's coming in 6.0:

      does this come with group- or domain-admins who can only install apps/add and edit users from their designated domains/groups?

      Not part of the multi-host but it's part of the "Fix access control for service provider setups"

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        Very much looking forward to seeing how you develop the multi-host features for 6.0.

        If I may suggest for consideration in that it would be very useful to be able to move an entire domain with all it's configurations and apps from one Cloudron to another with a button, confirmation and function that went through the processes. I image it would need to pause all services on that domain during the transition to ensure data is frozen but it could be a scheduled maintenance or just a staging Cloudron to live Cloudron launch process.

        So we can set everything up on one Cloudron instance, and them move the whole thing to another separate and dedicated one.

        Might be a big ask - but though it worth bearing in mind in your designs and planning.

        Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
        Development https://brandlight.org
        Life https://marcusquinn.com

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        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

          Very much looking forward to seeing how you develop the multi-host features for 6.0.

          If I may suggest for consideration in that it would be very useful to be able to move an entire domain with all it's configurations and apps from one Cloudron to another with a button, confirmation and function that went through the processes. I image it would need to pause all services on that domain during the transition to ensure data is frozen but it could be a scheduled maintenance or just a staging Cloudron to live Cloudron launch process.

          So we can set everything up on one Cloudron instance, and them move the whole thing to another separate and dedicated one.

          Might be a big ask - but though it worth bearing in mind in your designs and planning.

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          @marcusquinn self-hosted auto-magical devops deployments at the click of a button....

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            @marcusquinn self-hosted auto-magical devops deployments at the click of a button....

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            @will That's the dream. I like scaleable businesses where the second time doing something is a tiny percentage of the effort of the first time. Setups take time, time is finite, speed is valuable. Templating is where profits are for client and provider πŸ™‚

            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
            Development https://brandlight.org
            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              @will That's the dream. I like scaleable businesses where the second time doing something is a tiny percentage of the effort of the first time. Setups take time, time is finite, speed is valuable. Templating is where profits are for client and provider πŸ™‚

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              @marcusquinn Putting it another way, it would make it quick to move a domain from being on a shared Cloudron to it's own dedicated Cloudron, and we'd be happily paying another licence subscription for these πŸ™‚

              Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
              Development https://brandlight.org
              Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                Curious how you're getting on with your 6.0 feature wishlist? I know it's always a difficult question but any idea on timeline yet?

                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                Development https://brandlight.org
                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                  I don't have a concrete time yet. We just pushed out 5.6 release last week (which hasn't even been announced yet).

                  For 6.0 specific features, Focal support is already in master. FTS search in mail is getting there. I think the unified dashboard feature has many architectures to choose from, so we have to pick carefully and regardless of what we choose it's a bit of work (atleast a month).

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                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                    @marcusquinn Putting it another way, it would make it quick to move a domain from being on a shared Cloudron to it's own dedicated Cloudron, and we'd be happily paying another licence subscription for these πŸ™‚

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                    Optimize WP and Nextcloud installations

                    Is this for both managed and unmanaged versions of Wordpress? 🀞 And is this completed already - it seems like WP has gotten a lot better with Redis (can’t remember if this is a new feature in one of the 2020 updates but I think it is).

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                    • LonkleL Lonkle

                      Optimize WP and Nextcloud installations

                      Is this for both managed and unmanaged versions of Wordpress? 🀞 And is this completed already - it seems like WP has gotten a lot better with Redis (can’t remember if this is a new feature in one of the 2020 updates but I think it is).

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                      @Lonk Yes, it's for both. It also includes PHP stack and Nextcloud as well.

                      The core issue is that currently we sort of hardcode the apache mpm_prefork configuration in the Dockerfile/app package. Making this customizable will easily make things more performant based on the user's setup/traffic. The fixes are not on platform side and on the app packaging side, so it's not tied to Cloudron 6 as such. We had put it in there because we wanted to investigate if this was some platform side issue (maybe some mysql performance related etc).

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                      • girishG girish

                        I don't have a concrete time yet. We just pushed out 5.6 release last week (which hasn't even been announced yet).

                        For 6.0 specific features, Focal support is already in master. FTS search in mail is getting there. I think the unified dashboard feature has many architectures to choose from, so we have to pick carefully and regardless of what we choose it's a bit of work (atleast a month).

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                        @girish Good stuff - I'm impressed already πŸ™‚

                        Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                        Development https://brandlight.org
                        Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                          I made a new post for what's really coming in 6.0 - https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3205/what-s-coming-in-6-0-take-2 . I will lock this thread since this post got split into 3 releases!

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