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cloudron 6.0.1 fail to install on a new fresh ubuntu 20.04 server

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    TheNils
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    wrote on last edited by girish
    #1

    hi there,
    i'm trying to install cloudron on a new fresh ubunntu 20.04 server
    the installation fail with the following error :

    echo "==> Configuring host"
    ==> Configuring host
    sed -e 's/^#NTP=/NTP=0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org 2.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org 3.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org/' -i /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf
    timedatectl set-ntp 1
    Failed to set ntp: NTP not supported
    

    i have tried to manually setup timedatectl with a ntp service but the same error append.
    keep up the great work !

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      on which VPS provider is this?

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      • nebulonN nebulon

        on which VPS provider is this?

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        TheNils
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        @nebulon scaleway dedicated server (see here the store-1-s)

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          Hm maybe the specific ubuntu image from scaleway does not pre-install ntp. Can you run apt-get install ntp and then try to install Cloudron again?

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          • nebulonN nebulon

            Hm maybe the specific ubuntu image from scaleway does not pre-install ntp. Can you run apt-get install ntp and then try to install Cloudron again?

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            TheNils
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            @nebulon said in cloudron 6.0.1 fail to install on a new fresh ubuntu 20.04 server:

            apt-get install ntp

            i already done that but no change.
            after installing $: timedatectl status rerpot :

                           Local time: Tue 2020-12-08 13:50:22 CET
                       Universal time: Tue 2020-12-08 12:50:22 UTC
                             RTC time: Tue 2020-12-08 12:50:22    
                            Time zone: Europe/Paris (CET, +0100)  
            System clock synchronized: no                         
                          NTP service: n/a                        
                      RTC in local TZ: no 
            

            relating to this answer on serverfault :

            timedatectl command reports that NTP is in use when either chronyd or systemd-timesyncd

            apt-get install systemd-timesyncd seems to solve my problem ( chronyd does not work for me)...

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              girish
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              I did test installation on DEV1-M yesterday and it went fine. maybe the bare metal ones have a different ubuntu.

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                On DEV1-M, the package is already there and timedatectl set-ntp 1 works on a vanilla ubuntu 20

                root@scw-tender-euclid:~# systemctl status systemd-timesyncd
                ā— systemd-timesyncd.service - Network Time Synchronization
                     Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
                     Active: active (running) since Tue 2020-12-08 18:25:01 UTC; 1min 22s ago
                       Docs: man:systemd-timesyncd.service(8)
                   Main PID: 270 (systemd-timesyn)
                     Status: "Initial synchronization to time server 10.194.3.3:123 (10.194.3.3)."
                      Tasks: 2 (limit: 614)
                     Memory: 1.7M
                     CGroup: /system.slice/systemd-timesyncd.service
                             └─270 /lib/systemd/systemd-timesyncd
                
                Dec 08 18:25:00 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Network Time Synchronization...
                Dec 08 18:25:01 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Network Time Synchronization.
                Dec 08 18:25:04 scw-tender-euclid systemd-timesyncd[270]: Network configuration changed, trying to establish connection.
                Dec 08 18:25:04 scw-tender-euclid systemd-timesyncd[270]: Network configuration changed, trying to establish connection.
                Dec 08 18:25:06 scw-tender-euclid systemd-timesyncd[270]: Network configuration changed, trying to establish connection.
                Dec 08 18:25:36 scw-tender-euclid systemd-timesyncd[270]: Initial synchronization to time server 10.194.3.3:123 (10.194.3.3).
                
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                  It worked on a STARDUST1-S instance as well. Mmm, let's see if we have others reporting similar issue before making a fix.

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                  • girishG girish

                    It worked on a STARDUST1-S instance as well. Mmm, let's see if we have others reporting similar issue before making a fix.

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                    @girish may be easier to make a check for it or just add to list of apt-get install prerequisites

                    Conscious tech

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                    • girishG girish

                      It worked on a STARDUST1-S instance as well. Mmm, let's see if we have others reporting similar issue before making a fix.

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                      TheNils
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                      @girish it may only be my server... the scalway support is working on my server since my last message because the server is randomly going offline for no apparent reason after(?) installing cloudron. they even tryed to change the server because the ubuntu reinstalaltion process got broken at some point.

                      on their ubuntu image openntpd is installed in place of systemd-timesyncd.

                      have you ever encountered this kind of probleme (server randomly going offline ) ?

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                      • T TheNils

                        @girish it may only be my server... the scalway support is working on my server since my last message because the server is randomly going offline for no apparent reason after(?) installing cloudron. they even tryed to change the server because the ubuntu reinstalaltion process got broken at some point.

                        on their ubuntu image openntpd is installed in place of systemd-timesyncd.

                        have you ever encountered this kind of probleme (server randomly going offline ) ?

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                        @thenils haven't encountered such problems, no. Looks like some scaleway issue. Maybe just create a new server install?

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                          TheNils
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                          i have watched journalctl until it crash and ...
                          Apparently it was systemd-sleep kicking in and suspending the server ...
                          i previsously missed it from logs because i was searching for errors.
                          ( also i was assuming that it came from scalway because the first server was completly broken and they had to replace it)

                          i have disabled power management with :
                          $: systemctl mask sleep.target suspend.target hibernate.target hybrid-sleep.target

                          it should go fine now.

                          Thanks for your time

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                            i have watched journalctl until it crash and ...
                            Apparently it was systemd-sleep kicking in and suspending the server ...
                            i previsously missed it from logs because i was searching for errors.
                            ( also i was assuming that it came from scalway because the first server was completly broken and they had to replace it)

                            i have disabled power management with :
                            $: systemctl mask sleep.target suspend.target hibernate.target hybrid-sleep.target

                            it should go fine now.

                            Thanks for your time

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                            @thenils wow that's quite the oversight from Scaleway.

                            A server OS doesn't normally come with power management by default.

                            There may be other things hidden there, so check if you can install your own clean OS with less surprises. šŸ˜‰

                            Conscious tech

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                              @thenils wow that's quite the oversight from Scaleway.

                              A server OS doesn't normally come with power management by default.

                              There may be other things hidden there, so check if you can install your own clean OS with less surprises. šŸ˜‰

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                              @robi yes i'll might do it soon. i've seen in the logs xorg complaining about not finding any cursor. there's definitelly some funny stuff going on with this ubuntu image...

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                                The exact same ntp issue also happens with the Ubuntu 20.04 image being used by Atlantic.net.

                                After initial VM spin-up, the output of timedatectl was showing as:

                                Local time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37 UTC
                                Universal time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37 UTC
                                RTC time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37    
                                Time zone: Etc/UTC (UTC, +0000)       
                                System clock synchronized: yes                        
                                NTP service: n/a                        
                                RTC in local TZ: no
                                

                                Due to the NTP service showing as n/a, even though it is verified as running and enabled, your setup script passing the timedatectl set-ntp 1 would fail with:

                                Failed to set ntp: NTP not supported
                                

                                After wasting too much time on NTP issues by verifying configs and the working of the NTP daemon, I pulled the default NTP package and installed Chrony. Problems vanished.

                                For whatever reason, the default ntp package used in the image:

                                Package: ntp
                                Version: 1:4.2.8p12+dfsg-3ubuntu4
                                

                                is not being recognized by timedatectl. I'm sure it is a simple fix, but it is just so much faster to replace ntp.

                                Hope this helps someone.

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                                • T TX-Hermit

                                  The exact same ntp issue also happens with the Ubuntu 20.04 image being used by Atlantic.net.

                                  After initial VM spin-up, the output of timedatectl was showing as:

                                  Local time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37 UTC
                                  Universal time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37 UTC
                                  RTC time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37    
                                  Time zone: Etc/UTC (UTC, +0000)       
                                  System clock synchronized: yes                        
                                  NTP service: n/a                        
                                  RTC in local TZ: no
                                  

                                  Due to the NTP service showing as n/a, even though it is verified as running and enabled, your setup script passing the timedatectl set-ntp 1 would fail with:

                                  Failed to set ntp: NTP not supported
                                  

                                  After wasting too much time on NTP issues by verifying configs and the working of the NTP daemon, I pulled the default NTP package and installed Chrony. Problems vanished.

                                  For whatever reason, the default ntp package used in the image:

                                  Package: ntp
                                  Version: 1:4.2.8p12+dfsg-3ubuntu4
                                  

                                  is not being recognized by timedatectl. I'm sure it is a simple fix, but it is just so much faster to replace ntp.

                                  Hope this helps someone.

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                                  girish
                                  Staff
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                                  @tx-hermit thanks for reporting, let me test out atlantic.net to see if we can fix this to make it work out of the box.

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                                  • T TX-Hermit

                                    The exact same ntp issue also happens with the Ubuntu 20.04 image being used by Atlantic.net.

                                    After initial VM spin-up, the output of timedatectl was showing as:

                                    Local time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37 UTC
                                    Universal time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37 UTC
                                    RTC time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37    
                                    Time zone: Etc/UTC (UTC, +0000)       
                                    System clock synchronized: yes                        
                                    NTP service: n/a                        
                                    RTC in local TZ: no
                                    

                                    Due to the NTP service showing as n/a, even though it is verified as running and enabled, your setup script passing the timedatectl set-ntp 1 would fail with:

                                    Failed to set ntp: NTP not supported
                                    

                                    After wasting too much time on NTP issues by verifying configs and the working of the NTP daemon, I pulled the default NTP package and installed Chrony. Problems vanished.

                                    For whatever reason, the default ntp package used in the image:

                                    Package: ntp
                                    Version: 1:4.2.8p12+dfsg-3ubuntu4
                                    

                                    is not being recognized by timedatectl. I'm sure it is a simple fix, but it is just so much faster to replace ntp.

                                    Hope this helps someone.

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                                    girish
                                    Staff
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    I could reproduce the issue on atlantic.

                                    root@cloudron:~# systemctl is-active ntp
                                    active
                                    root@cloudron:~# timedatectl set-ntp 1
                                    Failed to set ntp: NTP not supported
                                    

                                    Then, I saw this error in ntp service logs:

                                    ā— ntp.service - Network Time Service
                                         Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ntp.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
                                         Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-01-05 01:28:44 UTC; 9min ago
                                           Docs: man:ntpd(8)
                                       Main PID: 23144 (ntpd)
                                          Tasks: 2 (limit: 2353)
                                         Memory: 1.5M
                                         CGroup: /system.slice/ntp.service
                                                 └─23144 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -g -u 107:115
                                    
                                    Jan 05 01:28:49 cloudron ntpd[23144]: Soliciting pool server 69.164.213.136
                                    Jan 05 01:28:49 cloudron ntpd[23144]: Soliciting pool server 91.189.89.199
                                    Jan 05 01:28:49 cloudron ntpd[23144]: Soliciting pool server 104.194.8.227
                                    Jan 05 01:28:49 cloudron ntpd[23144]: Soliciting pool server 50.205.244.39
                                    Jan 05 01:28:50 cloudron ntpd[23144]: Soliciting pool server 91.189.89.198
                                    Jan 05 01:28:50 cloudron ntpd[23144]: Soliciting pool server 173.255.215.209
                                    Jan 05 01:28:50 cloudron ntpd[23144]: Soliciting pool server 68.54.100.49
                                    Jan 05 01:28:50 cloudron ntpd[23144]: Soliciting pool server 66.79.136.235
                                    Jan 05 01:28:50 cloudron ntpd[23144]: Soliciting pool server 4.53.160.75
                                    Jan 05 01:34:27 cloudron ntpd[23144]: kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x41: Clock Unsynchronized
                                    
                                    

                                    ntptime also returns some strange errors:

                                    root@cloudron:~# ntptime
                                    ntp_gettime() returns code 5 (ERROR)
                                      time e39e4293.b8e9e5e4  Tue, Jan  5 2021  1:42:43.722, (.722319846),
                                      maximum error 16000000 us, estimated error 16000000 us, TAI offset 37
                                    ntp_adjtime() returns code 5 (ERROR)
                                      modes 0x0 (),
                                      offset 0.000 us, frequency 0.000 ppm, interval 1 s,
                                      maximum error 16000000 us, estimated error 16000000 us,
                                      status 0x2041 (PLL,UNSYNC,NANO),
                                      time constant 3, precision 0.001 us, tolerance 500 ppm,
                                    
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                                    • T TX-Hermit

                                      The exact same ntp issue also happens with the Ubuntu 20.04 image being used by Atlantic.net.

                                      After initial VM spin-up, the output of timedatectl was showing as:

                                      Local time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37 UTC
                                      Universal time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37 UTC
                                      RTC time: Tue 2021-01-05 00:04:37    
                                      Time zone: Etc/UTC (UTC, +0000)       
                                      System clock synchronized: yes                        
                                      NTP service: n/a                        
                                      RTC in local TZ: no
                                      

                                      Due to the NTP service showing as n/a, even though it is verified as running and enabled, your setup script passing the timedatectl set-ntp 1 would fail with:

                                      Failed to set ntp: NTP not supported
                                      

                                      After wasting too much time on NTP issues by verifying configs and the working of the NTP daemon, I pulled the default NTP package and installed Chrony. Problems vanished.

                                      For whatever reason, the default ntp package used in the image:

                                      Package: ntp
                                      Version: 1:4.2.8p12+dfsg-3ubuntu4
                                      

                                      is not being recognized by timedatectl. I'm sure it is a simple fix, but it is just so much faster to replace ntp.

                                      Hope this helps someone.

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                                      @tx-hermit Ah, here's the explanation - https://serverfault.com/questions/1024770/ubuntu-20-04-time-sync-problems-and-possibly-incorrect-status-information . Uninstalling/disabling ntp service does the trick! I will make a fix for next release.

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