App Packaging "Event"

[jimcavoli]

I could host via Webex - easy streaming/recording and simple to operate with a decent feature set. I won't likely be able to be the one doing any of the live work initially, but I could at least facilitate the meeting for everyone.

[marcusquinn]

Of all the ones I've tried, I know it's not Cloudron, but the absolute easiest is meet.jit.si and recording to Dropbox, then you can move the video to Peertube or whatever very quickly after.

Edit: Just did a quick test, recordings are 720P, so only works well for screensharing if you have the resolution low.

Screenflow or Wondershare Demo Creator are the best screen recording options I know to record at higher resolutions.

[doodlemania2]

@marcusquinn Don't we have Jitsi packaged? Could that work?

[marcusquinn]

@doodlemania2 Perhaps. I've never ventured outside of using whatever is in the App Store, although I'm still pushing to get more dev assistance on app packaging from my network because it seems to be a bottleneck.

I think packaged or hosted is fine, I feel security is their USP, and it's ultimately going to be a public meeting anyway. I suspect recording would be best done locally, ideal resolution being 1920x1080, on Mac I tend to use "BetterSnapTool" for setting various screensize areas for recording just part of a screen without adjusting my main screen resolution.

Of all those I've tried, Jitsi has always been fast and reliable, so maybe just use their infrastructure until the Cloudron version is battle-tested?

[doodlemania2]

@marcusquinn I think as long as we get the recording uploaded to Cloudron's video system, anything will work!

[thetomester13]

Alright, I am setup using @jdaviescoates 's BBB instance for now. We're still on for tomorrow, Wednesday the 27th at 5pm EST for writing some tests! Hope to see some people there!

[thetomester13]

The BBB room that this will be taking place at is here: https://ca.meet.coop/b/jos-2xl-ze7-g0q. Hope to see you all soon!

[doodlemania2]

@thetomester13 this was such a great session today! kudos on the efforts and excited to see phase 2 - xpath for the...uh... ewe! hehe

[thetomester13]

@doodlemania2 thanks Now to start debugging some selenium/webdriver!

[girish]

@thetomester13 It was awesome! Let me know if you need help fixing the issue we had with the test aborting. A quick idea is to simply check if the tests of some other package run out of the box.

[thetomester13]

@girish good idea! I'll give that a whirl. My guess (and hope ) is it's not something super obscure, just need to check versions and such.

[jdaviescoates]

Glad to hear this went well. Would be interested to hear any feedback about how well BBB worked?

[nebulon]

@thetomester13 as a hint, you started from a test which was still using selenium in a more complex fashion. We didn't know initially how to initialize it correctly and I think copied some code from somewhere.

Here https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/freescout-app/-/blob/master/test/test.js#L38 for example you can see how you could also initialize it, without that jar and whatnot. Maybe moving to that style resolves your chromedriver issue already.

Also make sure that chromedriver and selenium node modules are latest, they are quite picky

[thetomester13]

@jdaviescoates thanks again for setting up the BBB room for us! It worked well on my end, the main thing to note is that once people were there, I didn't see the 'record' button so wasn't able to record the session through BBB (though recorded locally). Weird as we were able to do a test recording just fine ahead of time.

@nebulon ok this is great! I was able to get the versions matching and chromedriver to run properly, but this example is much cleaner and can help me make more progress, thanks!

[plusone-nick]

@doodlemania2 would you be willing to post your packaging events on twitter? Or maybe an email list? I really want to attend

[Lonkle]

I wanna make it to the next one of these, just struggling financially due to the pandemic so I'm setting little time away for my hobbies like Cloudron for now. But later in the year I'll be contributing more to these kinds of activities. ️

And I second @plusone-nick, we def need at least a way for people that don't have the app-dev label on here to be notified of these events.

[doodlemania2]

@plusone-nick yes of course!

[nebulon]

For everyone who missed the last session, @thetomester13 made his recording available to us and I've put it into our peertube instance: https://videos.cloudron.io/videos/watch/9d163d31-d24c-4148-bd7e-a42857bcd4a4

There was some transcoding happening and for some reason it feels like it is loading slower for me than other videos, but maybe that is just my setup causing this.

[plusone-nick]

@doodlemania2 awesome much appreciated!

[thetomester13]

Hey all, I'm hoping to do a Part 2 session from my event coming up during the second week of February (this week is quite busy). I'm thinking Monday (8th), Tuesday (9th), or Wednesday (10th) at the same 5pm EST timeslot - are there preferences or times that would work better than others for people? Also, ideally we can use the same BBB room (if @jdaviescoates would be so kind : ) since that seemed to work out alright, but still open to other suggestions.

Quick update: I was able to get the webdriver working, it was simple versioning issues. Next up is to figure out login to Github and find a decent online xpath tester to prepare for this next session. And don't worry, I'll pick up right from where I left off and walk through the debugging I've had to do solo, before jumping into the actual tests.