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  • girishG Offline
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    girish
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    I think I have looked into this ages ago but from what I remember it uses extensive use of plugins (like node-red). Is that still the case? If so, it's always a challenge to make a platform as an app on Cloudron.

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    • girishG girish

      I think I have looked into this ages ago but from what I remember it uses extensive use of plugins (like node-red). Is that still the case? If so, it's always a challenge to make a platform as an app on Cloudron.

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      mehdi
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      @girish That's only if you use HomeAssistantOS. It's also available as a docker-container app. Their docs are a bit confusing about this.

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        Yes, Home Assistant relies heavily on plugins. The problem could be that you not only have to maintain the application, but also each plugin yourself, since they are all (independent) Docker based.

        Links:
        https://github.com/home-assistant/addons
        https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/add-ons/configuration/#add-on-dockerfile

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          Yes, Home Assistant relies heavily on plugins. The problem could be that you not only have to maintain the application, but also each plugin yourself, since they are all (independent) Docker based.

          Links:
          https://github.com/home-assistant/addons
          https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/add-ons/configuration/#add-on-dockerfile

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          mehdi
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          @subven Again, that's only if you use HomeAssistantOS. If you use the standalone docker container, you cannot install these plugins. It's far from "relying heavily" on them.

          I've been using HomeAssistant as a standalone container for months now, and to be honest I never really needed any of these plugins.

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          • mehdiM mehdi

            @subven Again, that's only if you use HomeAssistantOS. If you use the standalone docker container, you cannot install these plugins. It's far from "relying heavily" on them.

            I've been using HomeAssistant as a standalone container for months now, and to be honest I never really needed any of these plugins.

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            I installed my HomeAssistant on a new Raspi4b with 8GB RAM.
            HA OS would be a bad idea for that.
            I found https://github.com/SensorsIot/IOTstack and there is an installer for https://github.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer in the advanced options.
            It is broken, but with a littlte bit of debuging, I got it.

            So, this is the option to get the full functionally HA in a Docker container.

            Floh Klare
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              I installed my HomeAssistant on a new Raspi4b with 8GB RAM.
              HA OS would be a bad idea for that.
              I found https://github.com/SensorsIot/IOTstack and there is an installer for https://github.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer in the advanced options.
              It is broken, but with a littlte bit of debuging, I got it.

              So, this is the option to get the full functionally HA in a Docker container.

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              mehdi
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              @sirfichi Why not just use https://hub.docker.com/r/homeassistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant ?

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              • mehdiM mehdi

                @sirfichi Why not just use https://hub.docker.com/r/homeassistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant ?

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                @mehdi I think thats the version without the supervisor.
                And I actually have my old Raspi running with HAOS and supervisor and I would miss some features....

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                  Home assistant

                  And

                  Rhasspy

                  Holy crap, I would buy separate subscriptions for each box I have these on.

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                    I made one for myself here. Feel free to adapt it to your needs: https://git.atrilahiji.dev/atrilahiji/cloudron-homeassistant-app

                    It is VERY janky rn.

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                      Also I allowed signup for my personal gitea so if you want to report issues you can also do it via issues there. Also if you want to just contribute on there let me know once you make an account and I will change your repo limit from 0.

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                        Followup: Home Assistant is an incredible piece of software and I 100% recommend it.

                        Disclaimer: If you use Nanoleaf Essentials (lightstrips or bulbs) products it wont work with the Homekit or Nanoleaf integrations. Use Lifex or Hue lights instead. Make sure your Nanoleaf products use wifi like the Shapes series light panels before getting them to use with Home Assistant.

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                          Followup: Home Assistant is an incredible piece of software and I 100% recommend it.

                          Disclaimer: If you use Nanoleaf Essentials (lightstrips or bulbs) products it wont work with the Homekit or Nanoleaf integrations. Use Lifex or Hue lights instead. Make sure your Nanoleaf products use wifi like the Shapes series light panels before getting them to use with Home Assistant.

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                          FYI:
                          After all, I build my new system on a Raspi 4B 8GB and modified two Din-Housings so it fits to the fusebox. (In the first, I want the two components in a row, but the wires are to short ther's not enough space for the cases...)

                          I used https://sensorsiot.github.io/IOTstack/ | https://github.com/SensorsIot/IOTstack as a basis for the docker containers and I had to install homeassistant with the help of the script manually to figure out some issues...
                          (https://github.com/SensorsIot/IOTstack/blob/master/.native/hassio_supervisor.sh)

                          To control the raspi without keyboard/monitor I added parts of the RackPi --> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3022136
                          (My girlfriend modified the front sheet, so I had the chance to place the Raspi to the bottom of the case with the cooling fan on the top...)
                          Raspi_FuseBox.jpeg
                          (The Switch changes the voltage of the fan between 3.3V and 5V. 3.3V works fine and the Raspi actually has about 36°C...)
                          (The lower case os the housing for an original Raspi power supply. I opened it and fixed it on a circuit board. With a little switch I can turn on a LED to check if there is power on the device. The power supply is on fuse 24.)

                          Raspi_Open.jpeg
                          (I also added an adapter from 3,5mm Jack to RJ45, so I can use the audio output in another room. (Our flat has network sockets in any room. They end up under the fusebox...))

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                            👍 for this, adding some images from the links to bring more visual info here for interest...

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                              👍 for this, adding some images from the links to bring more visual info here for interest...

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                              @marcusquinn Wow, this is way cool. I like the location tracking.

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                                @marcusquinn Wow, this is way cool. I like the location tracking.

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                                @privsec Yeah it can trigger events off of stuff like location + time of day which I use for turning off lights.

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                                  @privsec Yeah it can trigger events off of stuff like location + time of day which I use for turning off lights.

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                                  @atridad said in Home Assistant:

                                  @privsec Yeah it can trigger events off of stuff like location + time of day which I use for turning off lights.

                                  I am guessing this is bluetooth? Or do you have it based off of Access point connections?

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                                    @atridad said in Home Assistant:

                                    @privsec Yeah it can trigger events off of stuff like location + time of day which I use for turning off lights.

                                    I am guessing this is bluetooth? Or do you have it based off of Access point connections?

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                                    @privsec Naw GPS. It updates the app with GPS location. You need to have the app on your phone for this to work afaik.

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                                      Handy for tracking what bluetooth IDs have passed within range or a connected bluetooth chip:

                                      • https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/bluetooth_tracker/
                                      • https://www.instructables.com/Raspberry-Pi-Bluetooth-InOut-Board-or-Whos-Hom/
                                      • https://github.com/robmarkoski/bt-mqtt-tracker
                                      • https://www.balena.io/blog/tracking-bluetooth-beacons-with-a-raspberry-pi/
                                      • https://github.com/phil-d-wilson/balena-locating

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                                        Here's an initial attempt modeled on the LSIO image:
                                        https://git.eyen.ca/cloudron/homeassistant

                                        I haven't really tested it much.
                                        I needed the docker wyze bridge but I did not want to expose it to the web so I included it in the docker file for home assistant.

                                        I know at the very least, that either home assistant and the wyze bridge work independently, but I haven't tested supervisor yet.

                                        My nas is currently having issues so I don't know when I will be able to work on it again, but if someone wants to pick up the torch, here you go

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