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Cost Effective Backup - Backblaze B2 or Wasabi or ?

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  • girishG girish

    @jagan If you can wait a bit (like next week), in Cloudron 6.3 the CIFS mounting stuff that @ccfu has written down is now automated.

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    @girish Fantastic, just in time!

    Cloudron is a gift that keeps on giving.

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    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

      @jagan I'm hoping to give https://www.storj.io/ or https://filebase.com/ a try soon, which speaks more to my ideals, and I have a feeling will beat Wasabi & Backblaze on price.

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      @marcusquinn Wow, Looks like decentralised storage is coming of age.
      During the last ICO frenzy, a lot of blockchain-based storage were issued if I remember.
      Lets see if we can add these as external storages on NextCloud - it would be great for non-critical data (old logs, for eg.)

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      • J jagan

        @ccfu Let me get this right, you choose CIFS mount and then add in the Hetzner Storage Boxes - is that it? Is there a tutorial or documentation I can refer, please? I found this online - Hetzner docs > Storage Box > Access with Samba/CIFS, but am not sure I understand it all.

        My cloudron is hosted on Hetzner and a fast backup in the Hetzner network would be great (unless there is a possibility entire hetzner network can go down in a DDOS).

        Thanks for the nice info!

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        @jagan That screenshot of the various backup options is really a thing of beauty. It's amazing how amazing Cloudron is!

        A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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        • scookeS scooke

          @jagan That screenshot of the various backup options is really a thing of beauty. It's amazing how amazing Cloudron is!

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          @scooke Yep! We are spoilt for choice, actually.
          To muse, there are even businesses (https://snapshooter.com/pricing) that have made 'server backup' their sole business model.

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          And so costly at that - they probably run a few cron scripts (am not an expert) to backup servers to the generous 'Unlimited bring your own' storage and charge 14$ to 199$ for this privilege!

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          • girishG girish

            @jagan If you can wait a bit (like next week), in Cloudron 6.3 the CIFS mounting stuff that @ccfu has written down is now automated.

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            @girish Looks like the CIFS has landed!

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            • J jagan

              @girish Looks like the CIFS has landed!

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              @jagan We always had CIFS support just that those shares had to be mounted manually. In 6.3, the mounting aspect is automated.

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                I'll +1 wasabi. I don't have security concerns as the backups are encrypted pretty well before being sent. But yeah the pricing works for me and the fact that they don't charge for requests is a life-saver for me.

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                • ? A Former User

                  I'll +1 wasabi. I don't have security concerns as the backups are encrypted pretty well before being sent. But yeah the pricing works for me and the fact that they don't charge for requests is a life-saver for me.

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                  @atrilahiji Depending on the size of the backups to be stored in Wasabi, I would review in detail their 90 day minimum storage charge policy applies (https://wasabi-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003947151-If-I-delete-a-file-within-90-days-after-storing-it-how-is-that-handled-from-a-billing-and-file-recovery-perspective-). Because this can make your monthly bill grow considerably.

                  For example, the last bill I paid from Wasabi was in July of last year, for an amount of $ 10 per month (for a bucket of about 100 Gb).

                  Captura de pantalla 2021-06-16 a las 9.52.39.png

                  For that same bucket I am now paying in Scaleway (https://www.scaleway.com/en/object-storage/) about € 0.25 per month.

                  This invoice shows the consumption of a bucket of about 100Gb (the first 75Gb portion is free).

                  Captura de pantalla 2021-06-16 a las 9.48.46.png

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                  • martinkbsM martinkbs

                    @atrilahiji Depending on the size of the backups to be stored in Wasabi, I would review in detail their 90 day minimum storage charge policy applies (https://wasabi-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003947151-If-I-delete-a-file-within-90-days-after-storing-it-how-is-that-handled-from-a-billing-and-file-recovery-perspective-). Because this can make your monthly bill grow considerably.

                    For example, the last bill I paid from Wasabi was in July of last year, for an amount of $ 10 per month (for a bucket of about 100 Gb).

                    Captura de pantalla 2021-06-16 a las 9.52.39.png

                    For that same bucket I am now paying in Scaleway (https://www.scaleway.com/en/object-storage/) about € 0.25 per month.

                    This invoice shows the consumption of a bucket of about 100Gb (the first 75Gb portion is free).

                    Captura de pantalla 2021-06-16 a las 9.48.46.png

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                    @martinkbs interesting. I have my server in Canada, so while I like the idea of scaleway I am.unsure about how it will perform for backups purely based on the latency

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                    • martinkbsM martinkbs

                      @atrilahiji Depending on the size of the backups to be stored in Wasabi, I would review in detail their 90 day minimum storage charge policy applies (https://wasabi-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003947151-If-I-delete-a-file-within-90-days-after-storing-it-how-is-that-handled-from-a-billing-and-file-recovery-perspective-). Because this can make your monthly bill grow considerably.

                      For example, the last bill I paid from Wasabi was in July of last year, for an amount of $ 10 per month (for a bucket of about 100 Gb).

                      Captura de pantalla 2021-06-16 a las 9.52.39.png

                      For that same bucket I am now paying in Scaleway (https://www.scaleway.com/en/object-storage/) about € 0.25 per month.

                      This invoice shows the consumption of a bucket of about 100Gb (the first 75Gb portion is free).

                      Captura de pantalla 2021-06-16 a las 9.48.46.png

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                      @martinkbs This is very informative, thank you.
                      Scaleway does seem cost-effective for those hosting in the EU (Hetzner, Scaleway, etc).
                      Also, the glacier option looks interesting too.

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