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  • rosanoR
    rosanoR
    rosano
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    thanks to everyone for the feedback, great to hear you are receptive to the idea.

    i'm personally super excited to get cloudron working for myself, it feels like the slickest and most robust option. i had it working but i need to save up so i can purchase the full version. congrats to this community on creating something so awesome and empowering with a sustainable business model too, y'all are trailblazers.

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    • rosanoR rosano

      thanks to everyone for the feedback, great to hear you are receptive to the idea.

      i'm personally super excited to get cloudron working for myself, it feels like the slickest and most robust option. i had it working but i need to save up so i can purchase the full version. congrats to this community on creating something so awesome and empowering with a sustainable business model too, y'all are trailblazers.

      humptyH
      humptyH
      humpty
      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      @rosano I like going through lists because that's how I discover new awesome apps!

      Here's how to edit your profile pic: Top right icon --> Edit Profile --> Change Picture

      Screenshot 2021-07-08 102238.png Screenshot 2021-07-08 102300.png

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      • rosanoR rosano

        @timconsidine thanks! it's actually 'comfortable text reading width' which i carry over from blogging and writing, but i might want to rethink this as it's not text-based ;).

        i need to also have other options for going through the list, i never thought people would 'go through' it, assumed that people search for what they know already.

        timconsidineT
        timconsidineT
        timconsidine
        App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
        wrote on last edited by
        #10

        @rosano Fair point.
        I may be a little strange, but there are so many great apps that I have not heard of before, and would never hear about without directory like yours, so looking through lists is great education for me.

        Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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        • rosanoR rosano

          thanks to everyone for the feedback, great to hear you are receptive to the idea.

          i'm personally super excited to get cloudron working for myself, it feels like the slickest and most robust option. i had it working but i need to save up so i can purchase the full version. congrats to this community on creating something so awesome and empowering with a sustainable business model too, y'all are trailblazers.

          timconsidineT
          timconsidineT
          timconsidine
          App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          @rosano I tried yunohost before and Sandstorm(??) but Cloudron is far superior and more stable (in my opinion/experience).
          I will take another look at Yunohost if I see something interesting there which is not on Cloudron.

          Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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          • timconsidineT timconsidine

            @rosano I tried yunohost before and Sandstorm(??) but Cloudron is far superior and more stable (in my opinion/experience).
            I will take another look at Yunohost if I see something interesting there which is not on Cloudron.

            jdaviescoatesJ
            jdaviescoatesJ
            jdaviescoates
            Super Fan
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            @timconsidine said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

            I will take another look at Yunohost if I see something interesting there which is not on Cloudron.

            Please create relevant App Wishlist posts here too 🙂

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @timconsidine said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

              I will take another look at Yunohost if I see something interesting there which is not on Cloudron.

              Please create relevant App Wishlist posts here too 🙂

              timconsidineT
              timconsidineT
              timconsidine
              App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              @jdaviescoates 👍

              Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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              • rosanoR rosano

                @girish the icons are a bit shaky, i'm trying to fetch them and serve them from my domain, but i had deployment issues and wasn't able to fix it in time. hey it works on localhost 🤷

                hmm the deep linking is a good idea, i was more focused on making sure people install because i think the cloudron interface is excellent and will carry the rest of the way. thanks for the info will make a note for later.

                scookeS
                scookeS
                scooke
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                #14

                @rosano Yes, thank you for the list. Good work! I personally never ever install something from a page that isn't within the environment it needs to be within (the exception I suppose are Heroku links). Following one of those direcly to some install page isn't what I want, partly because I most likely don't have an account there yet and haven't decided if I want one. BUT, the info about that app, and the service (cloudron, or yunohost, etc) are super helpful and interesting. So deeplinking as @girish suggested is, for me, loads more useful. And like another comment you made, I totally browse and look for different apps, inspiration, environments. I think many people would be browsing because, despite robust communities like Cloudron's here, the idea of self-hosting is still catching on.

                A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                • timconsidineT timconsidine

                  @rosano I tried yunohost before and Sandstorm(??) but Cloudron is far superior and more stable (in my opinion/experience).
                  I will take another look at Yunohost if I see something interesting there which is not on Cloudron.

                  scookeS
                  scookeS
                  scooke
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  @timconsidine There are actually quite alot on Yunohost that aren't here. I've tried Yunohost 3 times over the years and eventually, sooner rather than later, some unsolvable glitch happens and the whole thing dies. You are right, Cloudron is just worlds ahead in terms of function, ease, stability. That said, I am trying it out, once more, to see what Plume, Write.Freely, Photonix, PhotoView, and LanguageTool Server are like. I don't know if they are on Cloudron's App Wishlist yet.

                  A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                  • scookeS scooke

                    @timconsidine There are actually quite alot on Yunohost that aren't here. I've tried Yunohost 3 times over the years and eventually, sooner rather than later, some unsolvable glitch happens and the whole thing dies. You are right, Cloudron is just worlds ahead in terms of function, ease, stability. That said, I am trying it out, once more, to see what Plume, Write.Freely, Photonix, PhotoView, and LanguageTool Server are like. I don't know if they are on Cloudron's App Wishlist yet.

                    timconsidineT
                    timconsidineT
                    timconsidine
                    App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    @scooke I will check them out too. I looked at Plume previously and liked it, but stopped for some reason I can't recall.

                    Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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                    • humptyH humpty

                      @rosano I like going through lists because that's how I discover new awesome apps!

                      Here's how to edit your profile pic: Top right icon --> Edit Profile --> Change Picture

                      Screenshot 2021-07-08 102238.png Screenshot 2021-07-08 102300.png

                      rosanoR
                      rosanoR
                      rosano
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                      #17

                      @humptydumpty thanks for the tip, strange that the button wasn't there before, maybe it's not enabled for new accounts or something.

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                      • rosanoR
                        rosanoR
                        rosano
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        thanks again for all your great feedback. i have truly underestimated how important it is to browse via list and will make sure to add that next and let you all know. i actually had that working before and took it out! 🤦

                        re: the discussion about comparing platforms, i thought i had built in a filter for platforms but apparently i didn't, so i quickly deployed that now. you can search for 'yunohost' for example and see the apps that are there. might be easier to spot which ones aren't yet on cloudron. and of course there is the export of project data https://easyindie.app/projects.json for those who like to wrangle json.

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                        • timconsidineT timconsidine

                          @scooke I will check them out too. I looked at Plume previously and liked it, but stopped for some reason I can't recall.

                          timconsidineT
                          timconsidineT
                          timconsidine
                          App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #19

                          So I just went through the Yunohost list of apps
                          From their site, not @rosano digest
                          I clicked on 20+ links to view docs and code for various apps
                          Over half resulted in 404 errors
                          This just sums up Yunohost for me.
                          Frankly, even though I would love to love it, it suggests a hobbyist project, and doesn't give me confidence to use yunohost.
                          I would rather invest the time in learning how to package my own apps for Cloudron.
                          I don't like to be negative or rude, but Yunohost gives self-hosting a bad name. IMHO of course.

                          Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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                          • rosanoR
                            rosanoR
                            rosano
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            The number one feedback from various communities is to show the apps as a list instead of icons, made a small update for this today. Hope it's easier to navigate:

                            https://easyindie.app/glance

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                            • girishG
                              girishG
                              girish
                              Staff
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                              #21

                              Just saw another list today - https://www.btw.so/open-source-alternatives

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                              • girishG girish

                                Just saw another list today - https://www.btw.so/open-source-alternatives

                                rosanoR
                                rosanoR
                                rosano
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #22

                                @girish Interesting, there seem to be many 'alternative' lists like this:

                                • Apps – TROM-Jaro https://www.tromjaro.com/apps/
                                • Google Alternatives 2020: Best Privacy Friendly Alternatives https://justprivacy.org/google-alternatives/
                                • Ethical Alternatives & Resources - ethical.net https://ethical.net/resources/
                                • switching.software | Ethical, easy-to-use and privacy-conscious alternatives to well-known software https://switching.software/
                                • degoogle | A huge list of alternatives to Google products. Privacy tips, tricks, and links. https://degoogle.jmoore.dev/

                                but BTW focuses on open-source. None seem to focus on 'easy to install' though…

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                                • girishG girish

                                  Just saw another list today - https://www.btw.so/open-source-alternatives

                                  micmcM
                                  micmcM
                                  micmc
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                                  #23

                                  @girish said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                  Just saw another list today - https://www.btw.so/open-source-alternatives

                                  Nice find indeed 🙂

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                                  • rosanoR rosano

                                    @girish Interesting, there seem to be many 'alternative' lists like this:

                                    • Apps – TROM-Jaro https://www.tromjaro.com/apps/
                                    • Google Alternatives 2020: Best Privacy Friendly Alternatives https://justprivacy.org/google-alternatives/
                                    • Ethical Alternatives & Resources - ethical.net https://ethical.net/resources/
                                    • switching.software | Ethical, easy-to-use and privacy-conscious alternatives to well-known software https://switching.software/
                                    • degoogle | A huge list of alternatives to Google products. Privacy tips, tricks, and links. https://degoogle.jmoore.dev/

                                    but BTW focuses on open-source. None seem to focus on 'easy to install' though…

                                    jdaviescoatesJ
                                    jdaviescoatesJ
                                    jdaviescoates
                                    Super Fan
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #24

                                    @rosano said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                    @girish Interesting, there seem to be many 'alternative' lists like this:

                                    • Apps – TROM-Jaro https://www.tromjaro.com/apps/
                                    • Google Alternatives 2020: Best Privacy Friendly Alternatives https://justprivacy.org/google-alternatives/
                                    • Ethical Alternatives & Resources - ethical.net https://ethical.net/resources/
                                    • switching.software | Ethical, easy-to-use and privacy-conscious alternatives to well-known software https://switching.software/
                                    • degoogle | A huge list of alternatives to Google products. Privacy tips, tricks, and links. https://degoogle.jmoore.dev/

                                    but BTW focuses on open-source. None seem to focus on 'easy to install' though…

                                    https://alternativeto.net/ is handy too.

                                    I also find https://selfhosted.libhunt.com/ useful for finding and comparing apps.

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    • micmcM micmc

                                      @girish said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                      Just saw another list today - https://www.btw.so/open-source-alternatives

                                      Nice find indeed 🙂

                                      jdaviescoatesJ
                                      jdaviescoatesJ
                                      jdaviescoates
                                      Super Fan
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #25

                                      @micmc said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                      @girish said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                      Just saw another list today - https://www.btw.so/open-source-alternatives

                                      Nice find indeed 🙂

                                      Yeah btw.so itself looks/ sounds like it'll be a useful app to add to the wishlist once it's ready. I just asked and they said:

                                      Yes, it will be possible to self-host btw and the code will available soon (we're pre-launch)!

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                        @micmc said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                        @girish said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                        Just saw another list today - https://www.btw.so/open-source-alternatives

                                        Nice find indeed 🙂

                                        Yeah btw.so itself looks/ sounds like it'll be a useful app to add to the wishlist once it's ready. I just asked and they said:

                                        Yes, it will be possible to self-host btw and the code will available soon (we're pre-launch)!

                                        jdaviescoatesJ
                                        jdaviescoatesJ
                                        jdaviescoates
                                        Super Fan
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #26

                                        @jdaviescoates said in Easy Indie App—Run your own X in a few clicks:

                                        Yeah btw.so itself looks/ sounds like it'll be a useful app to add to the wishlist once it's ready. I just asked and they said:

                                        Yes, it will be possible to self-host btw and the code will available soon (we're pre-launch)!
                                        

                                        It is now possible to self-host so I've just added it to the wishlist here: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/73350

                                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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