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I am in the same boat.
Discourse has IMAP support but only for group inboxes, not for "reply by email".
Discourse was one of the big apps I want to be running on Cloudron, and having to add an external email provider just for POP3 really sucks.
Discourse has their "mail receiver" docker container that runs all of this for you if you self install elsewhere, and works really well.
"Don't run Discourse on Cloudron" seems like a bad solution. Is this on a backlog somewhere to solve?
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I am in the same boat.
Discourse has IMAP support but only for group inboxes, not for "reply by email".
Discourse was one of the big apps I want to be running on Cloudron, and having to add an external email provider just for POP3 really sucks.
Discourse has their "mail receiver" docker container that runs all of this for you if you self install elsewhere, and works really well.
"Don't run Discourse on Cloudron" seems like a bad solution. Is this on a backlog somewhere to solve?
@bmann I hadn't realised "reply by email" doesn't work on Cloudron, but if that's the case then that is a rather major issue that really ought to have @staff attention imho. It's a core feature of Discourse that many people familiar with Discourse have come to expect.
I'm not sure, but I think it's basically the same/ a related issue @jimcavoli has been hitting when trying to package Loomio, see:
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I am in the same boat.
Discourse has IMAP support but only for group inboxes, not for "reply by email".
Discourse was one of the big apps I want to be running on Cloudron, and having to add an external email provider just for POP3 really sucks.
Discourse has their "mail receiver" docker container that runs all of this for you if you self install elsewhere, and works really well.
"Don't run Discourse on Cloudron" seems like a bad solution. Is this on a backlog somewhere to solve?
@bmann I guess https://github.com/discourse/mail-receiver is the repo? Did I understand correctly that it can be run on a separate server and hooked up to Cloudron+Discourse install? (Of course, ideally, we can have this all part of the Cloudron package itself or maybe a separate Cloudron package)
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Argh. Just gone through a lengthy process of getting Discourse set up - and it was a big part of choosing Cloudron - only to find this thread.
This is challenging, even though there is an answer.
- Any solutions?
- Does NodeBB do inbound? On Cloudron?
- Can this be done with Mailgun instead?
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Argh. Just gone through a lengthy process of getting Discourse set up - and it was a big part of choosing Cloudron - only to find this thread.
This is challenging, even though there is an answer.
- Any solutions?
- Does NodeBB do inbound? On Cloudron?
- Can this be done with Mailgun instead?
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@eddowding nodebb doesn't do inbound afaik. Incidentally, I was looking into making our recvmail addon work. Let me look into if it's easy to enable POP3 at a mailbox level.
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Argh. Just gone through a lengthy process of getting Discourse set up - and it was a big part of choosing Cloudron - only to find this thread.
This is challenging, even though there is an answer.
- Any solutions?
- Does NodeBB do inbound? On Cloudron?
- Can this be done with Mailgun instead?
@eddowding said in Discourse and incoming email:
Can this be done with Mailgun instead?
I've not tried it yet, but I think there is a new option when installing apps to not use Cloudron for mail at all and to just configure it all within the app itself. I guess that might work @staff ?
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@eddowding said in Discourse and incoming email:
Can this be done with Mailgun instead?
I've not tried it yet, but I think there is a new option when installing apps to not use Cloudron for mail at all and to just configure it all within the app itself. I guess that might work @staff ?
@jdaviescoates That feature is for used for configuring apps that send email. @eddowding wants a way for an app to receive email.
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@jdaviescoates That feature is for used for configuring apps that send email. @eddowding wants a way for an app to receive email.
@girish said in Discourse and incoming email:
@jdaviescoates That feature is for used for configuring apps that send email. @eddowding wants a way for an app to receive email.
I realised @eddowding wants to receive email (and I think it's really quite bad that Discourse is a Stable App but doesn't have some of it's basic features packaged, nor any warning of those missing features. Indeed when installing that app it says "Use it as a: mailing list" which you can't do if it can't receive mail), I just figured Mailgun details or whatever could be entered somewhere into Discourse settings and that might work. I guess you're saying that wouldn't work but I don't think I really understand why that would be the case
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@girish said in Discourse and incoming email:
@jdaviescoates That feature is for used for configuring apps that send email. @eddowding wants a way for an app to receive email.
I realised @eddowding wants to receive email (and I think it's really quite bad that Discourse is a Stable App but doesn't have some of it's basic features packaged, nor any warning of those missing features. Indeed when installing that app it says "Use it as a: mailing list" which you can't do if it can't receive mail), I just figured Mailgun details or whatever could be entered somewhere into Discourse settings and that might work. I guess you're saying that wouldn't work but I don't think I really understand why that would be the case
@jdaviescoates It's debatable if mailing list is a basic feature for forum software (though it seems the description comes from https://github.com/discourse/discourse#readme and I am reluctant to remove it since this is what the upstream devs think )
That said, you can use it as a mailing list, just not if the email domain is hosted on Cloudron since we don't support POP3 yet. I also don't know why they only support POP3 when all other apps support IMAP (gitlab, freescout, espocrm for example). Anyone have any background on this?
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@eddowding yes, it will be part of update (if we implement it). Just to double check, this feature only makes sense if your domain's email is also hosted on Cloudron. Is that the case with your setup?
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@jdaviescoates It's debatable if mailing list is a basic feature for forum software (though it seems the description comes from https://github.com/discourse/discourse#readme and I am reluctant to remove it since this is what the upstream devs think )
That said, you can use it as a mailing list, just not if the email domain is hosted on Cloudron since we don't support POP3 yet. I also don't know why they only support POP3 when all other apps support IMAP (gitlab, freescout, espocrm for example). Anyone have any background on this?
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@jdaviescoates It's debatable if mailing list is a basic feature for forum software (though it seems the description comes from https://github.com/discourse/discourse#readme and I am reluctant to remove it since this is what the upstream devs think )
That said, you can use it as a mailing list, just not if the email domain is hosted on Cloudron since we don't support POP3 yet. I also don't know why they only support POP3 when all other apps support IMAP (gitlab, freescout, espocrm for example). Anyone have any background on this?
@girish said in Discourse and incoming email:
I also don't know why they only support POP3
Yes, it does seem odd.
Although it sounds like it's not the only way:
Pushing emails via the Discourse API
Alternatively, you can push emails to Discourse via the API. For that, you will need
To check the manual_polling_enabled site setting. A master API key 138 or an API key associated to a staff member.Then, to push an email to Discourse, you need to pass the raw email content as the “email” parameter when POSTing to “/admin/email/handle_mail”. The endpoint accepts application/json (recommended), multipart/form-data, or application/x-www-urlencoded request bodies (with an appropriate request Content-Type header, naturally).
You’re done
From the link @eddowding posted above
Edit: also, this thread should not be marked as solved, as this issue has not yet been solved.
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@girish said in Discourse and incoming email:
I also don't know why they only support POP3
Yes, it does seem odd.
Although it sounds like it's not the only way:
Pushing emails via the Discourse API
Alternatively, you can push emails to Discourse via the API. For that, you will need
To check the manual_polling_enabled site setting. A master API key 138 or an API key associated to a staff member.Then, to push an email to Discourse, you need to pass the raw email content as the “email” parameter when POSTing to “/admin/email/handle_mail”. The endpoint accepts application/json (recommended), multipart/form-data, or application/x-www-urlencoded request bodies (with an appropriate request Content-Type header, naturally).
You’re done
From the link @eddowding posted above
Edit: also, this thread should not be marked as solved, as this issue has not yet been solved.
I'd love to use the API but it's far from obvious if that's actually possible on Cloudron. @jenny_molloy's opening post suggests it's not.
https://meta.discourse.org/t/direct-delivery-incoming-email-for-self-hosted-sites/49487
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To give an update on this. Currently the package lacks the pre-setup of the pop3 configs, this is under way, however even then I wasn't able to make use of that feature properly, despite the app receiving the emails. May just be that I haven't fully grasped how it is supposed to work.
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To give an update on this. Currently the package lacks the pre-setup of the pop3 configs, this is under way, however even then I wasn't able to make use of that feature properly, despite the app receiving the emails. May just be that I haven't fully grasped how it is supposed to work.
@nebulon great that this is finally moving forward. IMHO it's really very important that we get this working as it's a core feature of Discourse.
Let me know if I can help testing
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For a start I have published a new app package which does the pre-setup of the email receiving part.
Just to be clear, the transactional emails for discourse are using a different email address.
So far I haven't been able to configure it to actually accept any emails for forum threads, however it does process it now, so maybe I am just missing something small.
