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What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4)

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  • murgeroM murgero

    Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

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    #69

    @murgero said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

    Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

    TBH all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols. Email cannot be fixed or made secure (think encryption or shit like HTML emails)

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    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

      @murgero said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

      Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

      TBH all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols. Email cannot be fixed or made secure (think encryption or shit like HTML emails)

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      fbartels
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      wrote on last edited by
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      @necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

      all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols

      ^this email was not designed as a secret medium. Unlike protocols such as matrix.

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      • fbartelsF fbartels

        @necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

        all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols

        ^this email was not designed as a secret medium. Unlike protocols such as matrix.

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        necrevistonnezr
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        #71

        @fbartels said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

        @necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

        all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols

        ^this email was not designed as a secret medium. Unlike protocols such as matrix.

        Exactly.

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          wrote on last edited by d19dotca
          #72

          Just curious @girish @nebulon ... I see 7.0.2 out but I still get the notice of this being pre-release and not production ready... is that still accurate or is that an outdated message?

          This update is a pre-release and not considered stable yet. Please update at your own risk.

          --
          Dustin Dauncey
          www.d19.ca

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            wrote on last edited by avatar1024
            #73

            Thanks for the fantastic release!!

            Brilliant new features: per event log, per cron, app manager role, email data file manager, and everything else...well done!!

            Always visible grey squared gear icon is a bit less pretty than just the gear (as it used to be), no? Very minor point of course!

            Also there was a talk on a mailbox manager role at some point (someone who could administrate the email side of thing), is this part of this release in the end or is there more work plan for this or for other role customisation in the next release?

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            • avatar1024A avatar1024

              Thanks for the fantastic release!!

              Brilliant new features: per event log, per cron, app manager role, email data file manager, and everything else...well done!!

              Always visible grey squared gear icon is a bit less pretty than just the gear (as it used to be), no? Very minor point of course!

              Also there was a talk on a mailbox manager role at some point (someone who could administrate the email side of thing), is this part of this release in the end or is there more work plan for this or for other role customisation in the next release?

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              wrote on last edited by
              #74

              @avatar1024 said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

              Always visible grey scared gear icon is a bit less pretty than just the gear (as it used to be), no? Very minor point of course!

              which one do you mean? We have reworked some code in the apps grid to support the app operator role, so maybe you hit some regression, as the gear icon I am thinking of, should not be always visible.

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              • nebulonN nebulon

                @avatar1024 said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

                Always visible grey scared gear icon is a bit less pretty than just the gear (as it used to be), no? Very minor point of course!

                which one do you mean? We have reworked some code in the apps grid to support the app operator role, so maybe you hit some regression, as the gear icon I am thinking of, should not be always visible.

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                #75

                @nebulon Apologies, I meant that on mouse hover an app, there is now a grey square button (with white gear) always visible, which then turns white (with blue gear) when actually hovering over it. Before it used to be that you see only the gear (without a square) when hovering over an app and you'd see the square when hovering over the gear.

                Haha I've realised this is only a dark theme issue. I've just tried in another browser with a light theme and the issue is not here. So yes, probably a slight regression on the dark theme.
                gear button.pnggear button_active.png Cloudron 7
                gear button_old.pnggear button_active_old.png Cloudron 6

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                • avatar1024A avatar1024

                  @nebulon Apologies, I meant that on mouse hover an app, there is now a grey square button (with white gear) always visible, which then turns white (with blue gear) when actually hovering over it. Before it used to be that you see only the gear (without a square) when hovering over an app and you'd see the square when hovering over the gear.

                  Haha I've realised this is only a dark theme issue. I've just tried in another browser with a light theme and the issue is not here. So yes, probably a slight regression on the dark theme.
                  gear button.pnggear button_active.png Cloudron 7
                  gear button_old.pnggear button_active_old.png Cloudron 6

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                  nebulon
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                  #76

                  @avatar1024 well spotted, thanks. This is indeed a regression. I have fixed this now for the next release.

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                  • d19dotcaD d19dotca

                    Just curious @girish @nebulon ... I see 7.0.2 out but I still get the notice of this being pre-release and not production ready... is that still accurate or is that an outdated message?

                    This update is a pre-release and not considered stable yet. Please update at your own risk.

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                    girish
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                    #77

                    @d19dotca since we roll out slowly, it will show as 'unstable' for the others. at this point, 7.0 is still available only to new installations and those who check for an update manually. We will start a roll out only next week. In general, it is truly stable (as in, what we have staged might have small regressions) only once I make a forum announcement here and blog post that Cloudron 7 is available.

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                    • girishG girish

                      @d19dotca since we roll out slowly, it will show as 'unstable' for the others. at this point, 7.0 is still available only to new installations and those who check for an update manually. We will start a roll out only next week. In general, it is truly stable (as in, what we have staged might have small regressions) only once I make a forum announcement here and blog post that Cloudron 7 is available.

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                      #78

                      @girish just curious but I might be missing something. How was custom app installation made easier?

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                      • ? A Former User

                        @girish just curious but I might be missing something. How was custom app installation made easier?

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                        girish
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                        #79

                        @atridad unfortunately, we didn't make any progress with that in this release.

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                        • girishG girish

                          @atridad unfortunately, we didn't make any progress with that in this release.

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                          #80

                          @girish my Cloudron instance was auto-upgraded to 7.0.3 last night. I have a lot of apps in Not Responding status, with a message on each :

                          Restarting - Waiting for Cloudron to initialize

                          I have rebooted the server using the System Info link.

                          Not possible to cancel and retry tasks.

                          Is there are any advice about getting these started ?

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                          • timconsidineT timconsidine

                            @girish my Cloudron instance was auto-upgraded to 7.0.3 last night. I have a lot of apps in Not Responding status, with a message on each :

                            Restarting - Waiting for Cloudron to initialize

                            I have rebooted the server using the System Info link.

                            Not possible to cancel and retry tasks.

                            Is there are any advice about getting these started ?

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                            timconsidine
                            App Dev
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                            #81

                            @girish panic over
                            They have all started now
                            Seemed to take a looong time after server reboot
                            Logs are difficult to interpret but seems like redis was struggling to get loaded.
                            All seems ok for now
                            Look forward to getting up to speed with 7.0 changes

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                            • timconsidineT timconsidine

                              @girish panic over
                              They have all started now
                              Seemed to take a looong time after server reboot
                              Logs are difficult to interpret but seems like redis was struggling to get loaded.
                              All seems ok for now
                              Look forward to getting up to speed with 7.0 changes

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                              App Dev
                              wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                              #82

                              sorry if I am being blind or thick, but is there some kind of CHANGELOG for what's in 7.0 ~ 7.03

                              This thread is too long and too broad for my little brain

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                              • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                sorry if I am being blind or thick, but is there some kind of CHANGELOG for what's in 7.0 ~ 7.03

                                This thread is too long and too broad for my little brain

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                                nebulon
                                Staff
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #83

                                @timconsidine the changes are all listed in https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/blob/master/CHANGES#L2367 or they should also be shown in the notification about the update in your Cloudron dashboard.

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                                • nebulonN nebulon

                                  @timconsidine the changes are all listed in https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/blob/master/CHANGES#L2367 or they should also be shown in the notification about the update in your Cloudron dashboard.

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                                  timconsidine
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #84

                                  @nebulon cheers !

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