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'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon

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    • potemkin_aiP Offline
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      Just installed latest Jitsi on the latest Cloudron, trying to create a conference, but I'm getting this message, despite I'm the only one here and I was exactly the person who created this conference.

      If I try to claim that I'm the host, I'm requested to enter the password - not sure I understand which one.

      That is only the case if I choose to manage access by CloudRon, even if everyone can have an access to Jitsi.

      Looks like some kind of misconfiguration or bug for me.

      Screenshot from 2022-08-07 16-51-01.png

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      • robiR Offline
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        You log in with your Cloudron auth to enable the conference as host. It's not wide open like jit.si.

        Conscious tech

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        • robiR robi

          You log in with your Cloudron auth to enable the conference as host. It's not wide open like jit.si.

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          @robi thank you; I would expect it to recognize me automatically - since I literally just created this conference from the very same browser.

          A question, btw, would it require me to auth on Jitsi every time I create a conference, if I leave jitsi auth managed by Cloudron?

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          • potemkin_aiP potemkin_ai

            @robi thank you; I would expect it to recognize me automatically - since I literally just created this conference from the very same browser.

            A question, btw, would it require me to auth on Jitsi every time I create a conference, if I leave jitsi auth managed by Cloudron?

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            @potemkin_ai said in 'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon:

            A question, btw, would it require me to auth on Jitsi every time I create a conference, if I leave jitsi auth managed by Cloudron?

            Yes, unless reusing the same conference URL.

            Conscious tech

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            • robiR robi

              @potemkin_ai said in 'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon:

              A question, btw, would it require me to auth on Jitsi every time I create a conference, if I leave jitsi auth managed by Cloudron?

              Yes, unless reusing the same conference URL.

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              @robi said in 'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon:

              Yes, unless reusing the same conference URL.

              or unless you adjust the configuration to make it completely open so no one ever has to login. But then you run the risk of random people using your server.

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @robi said in 'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon:

                Yes, unless reusing the same conference URL.

                or unless you adjust the configuration to make it completely open so no one ever has to login. But then you run the risk of random people using your server.

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                @jdaviescoates , @robi , thank you!

                Not very user friendly approach =(
                I'm limiting access to the meetings using closed network approach, so I end up switching to everyone can connect configuration.

                Unfortunately, no option to switch from CloudRon managed Jitsi to let the app manage this on it's own once installed.
                Luckily Jitsi is very easy to reinstall.

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                • potemkin_aiP potemkin_ai

                  @jdaviescoates , @robi , thank you!

                  Not very user friendly approach =(
                  I'm limiting access to the meetings using closed network approach, so I end up switching to everyone can connect configuration.

                  Unfortunately, no option to switch from CloudRon managed Jitsi to let the app manage this on it's own once installed.
                  Luckily Jitsi is very easy to reinstall.

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                  @potemkin_ai said in 'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon:

                  Not very user friendly approach =(

                  I think it's the most suitable default and have personally never been bothered by having to click on my Bitwarden browser plugin to use my Cloudron credentials to quickly login as the host on Jitsi 🙂

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • potemkin_aiP potemkin_ai

                    @jdaviescoates , @robi , thank you!

                    Not very user friendly approach =(
                    I'm limiting access to the meetings using closed network approach, so I end up switching to everyone can connect configuration.

                    Unfortunately, no option to switch from CloudRon managed Jitsi to let the app manage this on it's own once installed.
                    Luckily Jitsi is very easy to reinstall.

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                    @potemkin_ai said in 'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon:

                    Unfortunately, no option to switch from CloudRon managed Jitsi to let the app manage this on it's own once installed.

                    right, this setting is currently not dynamic and has to be chosen at installation time. It's quite complicated to implement since it's not clear what happens to LDAP users (and viceversa).

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                    • girishG girish

                      @potemkin_ai said in 'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon:

                      Unfortunately, no option to switch from CloudRon managed Jitsi to let the app manage this on it's own once installed.

                      right, this setting is currently not dynamic and has to be chosen at installation time. It's quite complicated to implement since it's not clear what happens to LDAP users (and viceversa).

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                      potemkin_ai
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                      @girish thanks for explaining!

                      I don't know if that's possible, but if it is, I would love to see a notification on that during the installation process of Jitsi.

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        @potemkin_ai said in 'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon:

                        Not very user friendly approach =(

                        I think it's the most suitable default and have personally never been bothered by having to click on my Bitwarden browser plugin to use my Cloudron credentials to quickly login as the host on Jitsi 🙂

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                        @jdaviescoates I try to avoid doing the job when it can be not done - there are so many nice things I can do instead 🙂

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                        • potemkin_aiP potemkin_ai

                          @jdaviescoates I try to avoid doing the job when it can be not done - there are so many nice things I can do instead 🙂

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                          @potemkin_ai BTW who is this Cloud-Ron and where can we meet him?

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                          • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                            @potemkin_ai BTW who is this Cloud-Ron and where can we meet him?

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                            @necrevistonnezr said in 'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon:

                            @potemkin_ai BTW who is this Cloud-Ron and where can we meet him?

                            😁

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                            • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                              @potemkin_ai BTW who is this Cloud-Ron and where can we meet him?

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                              @necrevistonnezr I would guess it's Ronin that never returned from the battle field... hence abbreviated by Ron and Cloud, but together as Cloud-Ron as it sounds better.

                              And what's your perspective?

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                                Cloudron was an entirely made up word so we could get the domain name 🙂

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                                • girishG girish

                                  Cloudron was an entirely made up word so we could get the domain name 🙂

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                                  @girish said in 'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon:

                                  Cloudron was an entirely made up word so we could get the domain name 🙂

                                  I've always assumed it was a portmanteau of Cloud and Cauldron?

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    Cloudron was an entirely made up word so we could get the domain name 🙂

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                                    @girish it is a cloud + run, but somehow modified for me 🙂

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                                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                      @girish said in 'Waiting for the host' message if managed by CloudRon:

                                      Cloudron was an entirely made up word so we could get the domain name 🙂

                                      I've always assumed it was a portmanteau of Cloud and Cauldron?

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                                      @jdaviescoates it actually is, partly because as a German I found the term cauldron quite intriguing and thus threw that in. Also one can think of Cloudron as a pot your throw in all those apps 😉

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                                      • nebulonN nebulon

                                        @jdaviescoates it actually is, partly because as a German I found the term cauldron quite intriguing and thus threw that in. Also one can think of Cloudron as a pot your throw in all those apps 😉

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                                        @nebulon I've always thought it was coming from the sounding of running apps in the cloud. And so that is why one needs its apps to be cloud run(ed), or even cloud r on whatever that sounds loudly pronounced in some part of the world. 🙂

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