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  • subvenS subven

    @hugoo_souza10 what "account" are you talking about? Please specify where you want to login. As I said, cloudron.io does not store backups for you. Your Cloudron server might do local backups to it's own drive and your VPS provider might give you the option to take snapshots of your VPS but this is not a backup solution.

    How can a server at vultr get lost? They have redundancy and backups to restore in case of total failure (desaster recovery). Do you still have access to your vultr account?

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    @subven Yes, I have access to my vultr account. The only thing I have at the moment is the backup of my old server.
    Captura de Tela 2022-11-05 às 12.09.07.png
    Is it possible to recover my old data from this backup?

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    • H hugoo_souza10

      @subven Yes, I have access to my vultr account. The only thing I have at the moment is the backup of my old server.
      Captura de Tela 2022-11-05 às 12.09.07.png
      Is it possible to recover my old data from this backup?

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      MooCloud_Matt
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      @hugoo_souza10
      It should be, just creating a new server from that backup, because it's actually just a snapshot

      Matteo. R.
      Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
      MooCloud MSP
      Swiss Managed Service Provider

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      • H hugoo_souza10

        @subven I think it was only saved in the account 😞
        I did a backup before but it was the whole server, my server was hosted on vultr. It wrecked my life.
        I had made two levels of backup, one of the whole server, and another one inside the cloudron, but it wasn't locally.

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        @hugoo_souza10 said in Cloudron backup:

        I had made two levels of backup, one of the whole server, and another one inside the cloudron, but it wasn't locally.

        @MooCloud_Matt said in Cloudron backup:

        It should be, just creating a new server from that backup, because it's actually just a snapshot

        👆

        If you have this two level backup as you proclaim, you should be able to either follow @MooCloud_Matt suggestion or the official restore doc: https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#restore-cloudron IF one inside the cloudron, but it wasn't locally is true and you configured something like S3/Minio yada yada.

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        • H hugoo_souza10

          @subven Yes, I have access to my vultr account. The only thing I have at the moment is the backup of my old server.
          Captura de Tela 2022-11-05 às 12.09.07.png
          Is it possible to recover my old data from this backup?

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          wrote on last edited by subven
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          @hugoo_souza10 yes it is. Just follow the Vultr docs:

          You cannot download snapshots and backups directly. By deploying a temporary instance, you may access any data in the snapshot or backup. Downloading data from a snapshot or backup is as simple as mounting the snapshot or backup to a new instance, and then using one of the above methods to recover your files, depending on your OS.

          Create a new instance and restore your snapshot to this instance. You should now be able to A: use the server like it was before or B: extract the backup data files and restore them to another fresh installed Cloudron somewhere else. Just make sure to finish the process before the backup gets deleted (166 hours remaining).

          Still dont get why your old Vultr VPS got destroyed...

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          • subvenS subven

            @hugoo_souza10 yes it is. Just follow the Vultr docs:

            You cannot download snapshots and backups directly. By deploying a temporary instance, you may access any data in the snapshot or backup. Downloading data from a snapshot or backup is as simple as mounting the snapshot or backup to a new instance, and then using one of the above methods to recover your files, depending on your OS.

            Create a new instance and restore your snapshot to this instance. You should now be able to A: use the server like it was before or B: extract the backup data files and restore them to another fresh installed Cloudron somewhere else. Just make sure to finish the process before the backup gets deleted (166 hours remaining).

            Still dont get why your old Vultr VPS got destroyed...

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            @subven Which file/folder do I need to download from the old server? following option B: extract the backup data files and restore them to another Cloudron installed elsewhere, to be able to upload when restoring.

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            • H hugoo_souza10

              @subven Which file/folder do I need to download from the old server? following option B: extract the backup data files and restore them to another Cloudron installed elsewhere, to be able to upload when restoring.

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              @hugoo_souza10 said in Cloudron backup:

              @subven Which file/folder do I need to download from the old server? following option B: extract the backup data files and restore them to another Cloudron installed elsewhere, to be able to upload when restoring.

              Did you choose to ignore the suggestions made?
              Or are you unable to understand them?
              What is your native language? If it helps write in your native language and translate it with a tool like deepl.com.

              Again here, the official documentation about the official restore process:
              https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#restore-cloudron

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              • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

                @hugoo_souza10 said in Cloudron backup:

                @subven Which file/folder do I need to download from the old server? following option B: extract the backup data files and restore them to another Cloudron installed elsewhere, to be able to upload when restoring.

                Did you choose to ignore the suggestions made?
                Or are you unable to understand them?
                What is your native language? If it helps write in your native language and translate it with a tool like deepl.com.

                Again here, the official documentation about the official restore process:
                https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#restore-cloudron

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                hugoo_souza10
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                @BrutalBirdie My native language is Portuguese-BR.

                I'll summarize what I've done so far
                With the help of a programmer/friend, we opted for the process of extracting the backup data files and restoring them to another Cloudron

                Captura de Tela 2022-11-07 às 08.47.07.png

                We just ran into some problems in the process.
                First, when I downloaded this backup data file and we try to restore to the new clouron, it shows some errors, such as:

                Captura de Tela 2022-11-07 às 08.46.03.png

                Note: I made a new vps with the Snapshot from the old one, this is how I was able to extract the backup file from my old machine.

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                • H hugoo_souza10

                  @BrutalBirdie My native language is Portuguese-BR.

                  I'll summarize what I've done so far
                  With the help of a programmer/friend, we opted for the process of extracting the backup data files and restoring them to another Cloudron

                  Captura de Tela 2022-11-07 às 08.47.07.png

                  We just ran into some problems in the process.
                  First, when I downloaded this backup data file and we try to restore to the new clouron, it shows some errors, such as:

                  Captura de Tela 2022-11-07 às 08.46.03.png

                  Note: I made a new vps with the Snapshot from the old one, this is how I was able to extract the backup file from my old machine.

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                  subven
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                  @hugoo_souza10 don't restore the app you need, restore the Cloudron box file which contains all informations for Cloudron, Dashboard, email and installed apps. If Cloudron is running again, you can restore single apps if not done during the restoration process.

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                  • H hugoo_souza10

                    @BrutalBirdie My native language is Portuguese-BR.

                    I'll summarize what I've done so far
                    With the help of a programmer/friend, we opted for the process of extracting the backup data files and restoring them to another Cloudron

                    Captura de Tela 2022-11-07 às 08.47.07.png

                    We just ran into some problems in the process.
                    First, when I downloaded this backup data file and we try to restore to the new clouron, it shows some errors, such as:

                    Captura de Tela 2022-11-07 às 08.46.03.png

                    Note: I made a new vps with the Snapshot from the old one, this is how I was able to extract the backup file from my old machine.

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                    hugoo_souza10
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                    One more thing, since I have already installed a new vps using the snapshot from the old one, when I enter its IP Address, the following message appears:

                    Captura de Tela 2022-11-07 às 09.07.13.png
                    Theoretically it is installed, but I don't have access to it

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                    • subvenS subven

                      @hugoo_souza10 don't restore the app you need, restore the Cloudron box file which contains all informations for Cloudron, Dashboard, email and installed apps. If Cloudron is running again, you can restore single apps if not done during the restoration process.

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                      hugoo_souza10
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                      @subven Got it, restore the entire cloudron application then, not just the application I want.
                      One question, how do I locate this file? Could it be this file? /var/backups
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                      • H hugoo_souza10

                        @subven Got it, restore the entire cloudron application then, not just the application I want.
                        One question, how do I locate this file? Could it be this file? /var/backups
                        [image]

                        Captura de Tela 2022-11-07 às 09.18.42.png

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                        @hugoo_souza10 log into the server via SSH. I would recommend to use WinSCP 🙂 You get your SSH logins from your hosters server panel. Browse to /var/backups and download alle folders inside the dir.

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                        • subvenS subven

                          @hugoo_souza10 log into the server via SSH. I would recommend to use WinSCP 🙂 You get your SSH logins from your hosters server panel. Browse to /var/backups and download alle folders inside the dir.

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                          hugoo_souza10
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                          @subven Thank you very much for your attention and patience. I will try to do it like this

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                            @subven Thank you very much for your attention and patience. I will try to do it like this

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                            @subven I wanted to thank you all, I was able to recover my server following the steps here. This saved me a lot, I really appreciate it

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                            • H hugoo_souza10

                              @subven I wanted to thank you all, I was able to recover my server following the steps here. This saved me a lot, I really appreciate it

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                              subven
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                              @hugoo_souza10 invest in an external backup provider. I would suggest something independent from your actual hoster. You can find suggestions within the drop down list of the backup configuration.

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