Fider

[ruihildt]

@girish I just had a look at the GitHub, and it's one of those projects where low numbers doesn't mean it's not stable yet.

It's already in production for some big websites (like OBS project, but there are othey examples, see https://github.com/getfider/fider/issues/899 ), and while the developer had burned out in the past, they have now committed, more than a year ago, to stay on PR submitted and security updates.

[eddowding]

Meantime Clearflask (mentioned above) seems actively more mature and in more production use than Fider, so would probably get my vote.

It really feels like a bounty / marketplace for docker-cloudronification** would open up this challenge to more people, and allow easier prioritisation.

Something like https://app.bountysource.com/

** Because I don't understand what I'm talking about

[ruihildt]

@eddowding This bounty type development has been talked about multiple times across the years, and it never took off in the Cloudron app packaging context.
Having packagers scratch their itch or Cloudron devs taking time to do it for their customers has been the most successful ways of getting an app packaged.

Interestingly, one of the thing valued by Fider users is its simplicity. Not everyone has the same needs, so different solutions with different approaches are equally valuable.

[eddowding]

@ruihildt I find it .. hard to believe that the ROI wouldn't be worth it.

Ooh I want to do some napkin maths: how many apps could a f/t dev cloudronify per month?

[timconsidine]

@eddowding my napkin / fag packet is 2 - 4 apps p/month, allowing for testing and preserving Cloudron standards and quality.
Which is quite a high cost per app.
And some complex apps may be simply not possible.
Just my 2p.

[jdaviescoates]

@jdaviescoates said in Fider:

Here's how to install an instance:
https://getfider.com/docs/hosting-instance/

These are the current instructions:

https://fider.io/docs/hosting-instance

Uses Docker.

[jdaviescoates]

I just noticed that Scaleway use this for their feature requests site too:

https://feature-request.scaleway.com/

Be great to have it on Cloudron!

[robi]

@jdaviescoates with 20 upvotes and counting...

[marcusquinn]

I still think Flarum is the more mature and polished option in this area:

• https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1206/flarum-next-generation-forum

[robi]

@marcusquinn that's a different category, no? feedback vs forum.

Like comparing uservoice and nodebb.

[marcusquinn]

@robi Hmmm, I thought they used to have more of an upvote layout. Maybe my ageing memory.

Maybe also Astuto:

• https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3001/astuto-for-user-customer-feedback-and-roadmap
• https://alternativeto.net/software/fider/?license=opensource
• https://alternativeto.net/software/astuto/?license=opensource

[jdaviescoates]

@marcusquinn said in Fider:

I thought they used to have more of an upvote layout. Maybe my ageing memory.

Nope, your memory is good, you've seen people use Flarum for Fider type use case which it also does very well:

@marcusquinn said in Flarum - next-generation forum:

Just discovered this used at orionfeedback.org for browser.kagi.com

Got to say, both the browser and the feedback forum are very fast and nice.

[eddowding]

Looks like Flarum can do what fider does, and then more, AND has 27 votes here vs 20 for Fider.

[jdaviescoates]

@eddowding said in Fider:

Looks like Flarum can do what fider does, and then more, AND has 27 votes here vs 20 for Fider.

Yeah, Flarum should be higher up the priority list, but hopefully we'll get them both one day! Both great bits of software.

[marcusquinn]

A quick & easy WordPress alternative in the meantime:

• https://wordpress.org/plugins/simple-feature-requests/

[jdaviescoates]

@marcusquinn said in Fider:

A quick & easy WordPress alternative in the meantime:

• https://wordpress.org/plugins/simple-feature-requests/

Thanks, although

[marcusquinn]

@jdaviescoates Yeah, that's open-source for you, sometimes you have to do a bit of maintenance. GPT offers the solutions to update to php8 compatibility. I posted them on their Support. I might start adopting a and publishing a few plugins when I get more time.

[robi]

@jdaviescoates what made you decide not to use NodeBB or Discourse for user feedback?

[eddowding]

@robi can I turn the question around? What are the best examples you've seen of node & discourse which allow easy upvoting on ideas? eg https://orionfeedback.org/ is super-clear. https://feedback.fider.io/ is super-clear. I've not (yet) seen the same clarity elsewhere.

[LoudLemur]

Thanks for making this request. I was just about to create an Application Wish for it, too. https://canny.io seems to be the non-Free, proprietary competitor, so I hope Fider is supported on Cloudron.