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    eddowding
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    4 years old .. we really need a better way to get apps up on cloudron!

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      4 years old .. we really need a better way to get apps up on cloudron!

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      @eddowding fider is not even 1.0 yet.

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        @eddowding fider is not even 1.0 yet.

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        @girish I just had a look at the GitHub, and it's one of those projects where low numbers doesn't mean it's not stable yet.

        It's already in production for some big websites (like OBS project, but there are othey examples, see https://github.com/getfider/fider/issues/899 ), and while the developer had burned out in the past, they have now committed, more than a year ago, to stay on PR submitted and security updates.

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          @girish I just had a look at the GitHub, and it's one of those projects where low numbers doesn't mean it's not stable yet.

          It's already in production for some big websites (like OBS project, but there are othey examples, see https://github.com/getfider/fider/issues/899 ), and while the developer had burned out in the past, they have now committed, more than a year ago, to stay on PR submitted and security updates.

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          eddowding
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          Meantime Clearflask (mentioned above) seems actively more mature and in more production use than Fider, so would probably get my vote.

          It really feels like a bounty / marketplace for docker-cloudronification** would open up this challenge to more people, and allow easier prioritisation.

          Something like https://app.bountysource.com/

          ** Because I don't understand what I'm talking about

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            Meantime Clearflask (mentioned above) seems actively more mature and in more production use than Fider, so would probably get my vote.

            It really feels like a bounty / marketplace for docker-cloudronification** would open up this challenge to more people, and allow easier prioritisation.

            Something like https://app.bountysource.com/

            ** Because I don't understand what I'm talking about

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            @eddowding This bounty type development has been talked about multiple times across the years, and it never took off in the Cloudron app packaging context.
            Having packagers scratch their itch or Cloudron devs taking time to do it for their customers has been the most successful ways of getting an app packaged.

            Interestingly, one of the thing valued by Fider users is its simplicity. Not everyone has the same needs, so different solutions with different approaches are equally valuable.

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              @eddowding This bounty type development has been talked about multiple times across the years, and it never took off in the Cloudron app packaging context.
              Having packagers scratch their itch or Cloudron devs taking time to do it for their customers has been the most successful ways of getting an app packaged.

              Interestingly, one of the thing valued by Fider users is its simplicity. Not everyone has the same needs, so different solutions with different approaches are equally valuable.

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              @ruihildt I find it .. hard to believe that the ROI wouldn't be worth it.

              Ooh I want to do some napkin maths: how many apps could a f/t dev cloudronify per month?

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                @ruihildt I find it .. hard to believe that the ROI wouldn't be worth it.

                Ooh I want to do some napkin maths: how many apps could a f/t dev cloudronify per month?

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                @eddowding my napkin / fag packet is 2 - 4 apps p/month, allowing for testing and preserving Cloudron standards and quality.
                Which is quite a high cost per app.
                And some complex apps may be simply not possible.
                Just my 2p.

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                  I was just looking at this, looks really nice.

                  Here's how to install an instance:

                  https://getfider.com/docs/hosting-instance/

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                  @jdaviescoates said in Fider:

                  Here's how to install an instance:
                  https://getfider.com/docs/hosting-instance/

                  These are the current instructions:

                  https://fider.io/docs/hosting-instance

                  Uses Docker.

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    I just noticed that Scaleway use this for their feature requests site too:

                    https://feature-request.scaleway.com/

                    Be great to have it on Cloudron!

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                      I just noticed that Scaleway use this for their feature requests site too:

                      https://feature-request.scaleway.com/

                      Be great to have it on Cloudron!

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                      @jdaviescoates with 20 upvotes and counting...

                      Conscious tech

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                        @jdaviescoates with 20 upvotes and counting...

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                        I still think Flarum is the more mature and polished option in this area:

                        • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1206/flarum-next-generation-forum

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                        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                          I still think Flarum is the more mature and polished option in this area:

                          • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1206/flarum-next-generation-forum
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                          @marcusquinn that's a different category, no? feedback vs forum.

                          Like comparing uservoice and nodebb.

                          Conscious tech

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                            @marcusquinn that's a different category, no? feedback vs forum.

                            Like comparing uservoice and nodebb.

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                            @robi Hmmm, I thought they used to have more of an upvote layout. Maybe my ageing memory.

                            Maybe also Astuto:

                            • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3001/astuto-for-user-customer-feedback-and-roadmap
                            • https://alternativeto.net/software/fider/?license=opensource
                            • https://alternativeto.net/software/astuto/?license=opensource

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                              @robi Hmmm, I thought they used to have more of an upvote layout. Maybe my ageing memory.

                              Maybe also Astuto:

                              • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3001/astuto-for-user-customer-feedback-and-roadmap
                              • https://alternativeto.net/software/fider/?license=opensource
                              • https://alternativeto.net/software/astuto/?license=opensource
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                              @marcusquinn said in Fider:

                              I thought they used to have more of an upvote layout. Maybe my ageing memory.

                              Nope, your memory is good, you've seen people use Flarum for Fider type use case which it also does very well:

                              @marcusquinn said in Flarum - next-generation forum:

                              Just discovered this used at orionfeedback.org for browser.kagi.com

                              Got to say, both the browser and the feedback forum are very fast and nice.

                              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                eddowding
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                                Looks like Flarum can do what fider does, and then more, AND has 27 votes here vs 20 for Fider.

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                                  Looks like Flarum can do what fider does, and then more, AND has 27 votes here vs 20 for Fider.

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                                  @eddowding said in Fider:

                                  Looks like Flarum can do what fider does, and then more, AND has 27 votes here vs 20 for Fider.

                                  Yeah, Flarum should be higher up the priority list, but hopefully we'll get them both one day! Both great bits of software.

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    marcusquinn
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                                    A quick & easy WordPress alternative in the meantime:

                                    • https://wordpress.org/plugins/simple-feature-requests/

                                    Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                    Development https://brandlight.org
                                    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                      A quick & easy WordPress alternative in the meantime:

                                      • https://wordpress.org/plugins/simple-feature-requests/
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                                      @marcusquinn said in Fider:

                                      A quick & easy WordPress alternative in the meantime:

                                      • https://wordpress.org/plugins/simple-feature-requests/

                                      Thanks, although

                                      66296872-9bd0-4978-8d3b-7aba7820de6c-image.png

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                        @marcusquinn said in Fider:

                                        A quick & easy WordPress alternative in the meantime:

                                        • https://wordpress.org/plugins/simple-feature-requests/

                                        Thanks, although

                                        66296872-9bd0-4978-8d3b-7aba7820de6c-image.png

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                                        marcusquinn
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                                        @jdaviescoates Yeah, that's open-source for you, sometimes you have to do a bit of maintenance. GPT offers the solutions to update to php8 compatibility. I posted them on their Support. I might start adopting a and publishing a few plugins when I get more time.

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                                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                          @marcusquinn said in Fider:

                                          A quick & easy WordPress alternative in the meantime:

                                          • https://wordpress.org/plugins/simple-feature-requests/

                                          Thanks, although

                                          66296872-9bd0-4978-8d3b-7aba7820de6c-image.png

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                                          robi
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                                          @jdaviescoates what made you decide not to use NodeBB or Discourse for user feedback?

                                          Conscious tech

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