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  • WiseMetalheadW WiseMetalhead

    @robi said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

    @WiseMetalhead Thanks for chiming in.

    however it failed as the 'pro' command doesn't exist

    You need to install ubuntu-advantage-tools first, then check Ubuntu Pro with command:

    pro --version
    

    https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-beta-tutorial/31018

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    @WiseMetalhead Thanks, I have installed the package and by default it enables esm & livepatch.

    From the guide it seems the rest is automated via apt, so as Cloudron runs apt upgrade for security updates it should pull in the above too.

    Conscious tech

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      girish
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      wrote on last edited by girish
      #6

      Given that Ubuntu Pro has it's own terms/license, don't think it's right for us to auto-enable this without end user permission. Also, "personal use" is hard to determine for us.

      But I can maybe add this to https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/

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      • girishG girish

        Given that Ubuntu Pro has it's own terms/license, don't think it's right for us to auto-enable this without end user permission. Also, "personal use" is hard to determine for us.

        But I can maybe add this to https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/

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        jdaviescoates
        wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
        #7

        @girish said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

        "personal use" is hard to determine for us

        Looks like in this case it just means "5 or fewer machines" (unless you are an official Ubuntu Community member, and then it's 50 machines)

        "Free for personal use. Anyone can use Ubuntu Pro for free on up to 5 machines" -- https://ubuntu.com/pro

        @girish said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

        Ubuntu Pro has it's own terms/license

        I can't seem to find any info on that, got a link?

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

          @girish said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

          "personal use" is hard to determine for us

          Looks like in this case it just means "5 or fewer machines" (unless you are an official Ubuntu Community member, and then it's 50 machines)

          "Free for personal use. Anyone can use Ubuntu Pro for free on up to 5 machines" -- https://ubuntu.com/pro

          @girish said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

          Ubuntu Pro has it's own terms/license

          I can't seem to find any info on that, got a link?

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          wrote on last edited by
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          @jdaviescoates said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

          I can't seem to find any info on that, got a link?

          I couldn't find any when I looked earlier either, but imagine it's somewhere since you pay for it. (even a web search cannot find it!)

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          • girishG girish

            @jdaviescoates said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

            I can't seem to find any info on that, got a link?

            I couldn't find any when I looked earlier either, but imagine it's somewhere since you pay for it. (even a web search cannot find it!)

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            wrote on last edited by robi
            #9

            @jdaviescoates @girish It's in beta, so likely won't have those finalized until it's GA.

            Conscious tech

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            • robiR robi

              @jdaviescoates @girish It's in beta, so likely won't have those finalized until it's GA.

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              wrote on last edited by nichu42
              #10

              It looks like livepatch is out of beta now.
              It gets activated automatically when you attach your machine to your Ubuntu Pro account:

              sudo pro attach insertyourtokenhere
              

              It did not require the installation of ubuntu-advantage-tools.
              However, on my Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Cloudron) machine, is asked me to install an update of these tools.
              On my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS (non-Cloudron) machine, it already seemed to have the latest version.
              That brings me to a question @girish: Is it OK to upgrade to 22.04.2 on the Cloudron machine?

              Matrix: @nichu42:blueplanet.social

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              • nichu42N nichu42

                It looks like livepatch is out of beta now.
                It gets activated automatically when you attach your machine to your Ubuntu Pro account:

                sudo pro attach insertyourtokenhere
                

                It did not require the installation of ubuntu-advantage-tools.
                However, on my Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Cloudron) machine, is asked me to install an update of these tools.
                On my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS (non-Cloudron) machine, it already seemed to have the latest version.
                That brings me to a question @girish: Is it OK to upgrade to 22.04.2 on the Cloudron machine?

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                wrote on last edited by
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                @nichu42 yes, should be OK to update the tools.

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                • girishG girish

                  @nichu42 yes, should be OK to update the tools.

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                  @girish said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

                  @nichu42 yes, should be OK to update the tools.

                  Thanks, but actually my question was about Ubuntu itself. Is it OK to upgrade from 22.04.1 to 22.04.2?

                  Matrix: @nichu42:blueplanet.social

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                  • nichu42N nichu42

                    @girish said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

                    @nichu42 yes, should be OK to update the tools.

                    Thanks, but actually my question was about Ubuntu itself. Is it OK to upgrade from 22.04.1 to 22.04.2?

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                    @nichu42 yes, that should be ok as well.

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                    • girishG girish

                      @nichu42 yes, that should be ok as well.

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                      Note: keeping the installation up to date doesn't upgrade to the kernel (5.15 -> 5.19)

                      • To check if you already have the new kernel:
                        sudo apt list linux-generic-hwe-22.04 --installed

                      • To install the metapackage for the new kernel:
                        sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-22.04 --install-recommends

                      • Otherwise: sudo apt install --install-recommends (add an -s to first simulate updates)

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                      • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                        Note: keeping the installation up to date doesn't upgrade to the kernel (5.15 -> 5.19)

                        • To check if you already have the new kernel:
                          sudo apt list linux-generic-hwe-22.04 --installed

                        • To install the metapackage for the new kernel:
                          sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-22.04 --install-recommends

                        • Otherwise: sudo apt install --install-recommends (add an -s to first simulate updates)

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        All went well, thanks again! I am now on Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS / Kernel 5.19 with livepatches activated. No problems at all during or after the upgrade.

                        Matrix: @nichu42:blueplanet.social

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                        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                          Note: keeping the installation up to date doesn't upgrade to the kernel (5.15 -> 5.19)

                          • To check if you already have the new kernel:
                            sudo apt list linux-generic-hwe-22.04 --installed

                          • To install the metapackage for the new kernel:
                            sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-22.04 --install-recommends

                          • Otherwise: sudo apt install --install-recommends (add an -s to first simulate updates)

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                          random_eric
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                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @necrevistonnezr
                          How do you know that if the live patch is enabled?

                          On the documentation, I only see that kernel 5.15 is supported and not 5.19.

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                            @necrevistonnezr
                            How do you know that if the live patch is enabled?

                            On the documentation, I only see that kernel 5.15 is supported and not 5.19.

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                            @random_eric I took my information from here: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/02/ubuntu-22-04-2-download

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                            • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                              @random_eric I took my information from here: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/02/ubuntu-22-04-2-download

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                              wrote on last edited by random_eric
                              #18

                              @necrevistonnezr
                              How do you know that the live patching is enabled for that kernel?
                              I just don't know how to check.

                              -- edit --

                              Found it:

                              canonical-livepatch status
                              

                              returns

                              last check: 23 seconds ago
                              kernel: 5.15.0-67.74-generic
                              server check-in: succeeded
                              patch state: ✓ no livepatches needed for this kernel yet
                              tier: updates (Free usage; This machine beta tests new patches.)
                              
                              last check: 1 minute ago
                              kernel: 5.19.0-35.36~22.04.1-generic
                              server check-in: succeeded
                              patch state: ✗ kernel version not supported
                              tier: updates (Free usage; This machine beta tests new patches.)
                              

                              So based on the pattern in the docs,
                              the 22.04 hwe kernel will only be supported for live patching once the 24.04 LTS is released.

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                                #19

                                I was checking the livepatch status and received the info that I need to update the ubuntu-advantage-tools. I did that, and during the installation it told me that I need Kernel 6.2.0-26-generic, which has been now automatically been scheduled for installation. Feeling brave, I did a reboot. Now I am indeed running 6.2.0-26-generic:

                                last check: 38 minutes ago
                                kernel: 6.2.0-26.26~22.04.1-generic
                                server check-in: succeeded
                                kernel state: ✓ kernel is supported by Canonical until 2024-08-13
                                patch state: ✓ no livepatches needed for this kernel yet
                                

                                No issues so far with Cloudron or any apps (although, to be honest, I don't even know if there are any problems to expect when doing a kernel update).

                                Anyway, while I'm on it. Is it advisable to go to the recently released Ubuntu version 22.04.3 LTS?

                                Matrix: @nichu42:blueplanet.social

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                                  #20

                                  At the moment with 7.5 only Ubuntu 20.04 and 22.04 are supported.

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                                  • nichu42N nichu42

                                    I was checking the livepatch status and received the info that I need to update the ubuntu-advantage-tools. I did that, and during the installation it told me that I need Kernel 6.2.0-26-generic, which has been now automatically been scheduled for installation. Feeling brave, I did a reboot. Now I am indeed running 6.2.0-26-generic:

                                    last check: 38 minutes ago
                                    kernel: 6.2.0-26.26~22.04.1-generic
                                    server check-in: succeeded
                                    kernel state: ✓ kernel is supported by Canonical until 2024-08-13
                                    patch state: ✓ no livepatches needed for this kernel yet
                                    

                                    No issues so far with Cloudron or any apps (although, to be honest, I don't even know if there are any problems to expect when doing a kernel update).

                                    Anyway, while I'm on it. Is it advisable to go to the recently released Ubuntu version 22.04.3 LTS?

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                                    girish
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                                    @nichu42 said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

                                    Anyway, while I'm on it. Is it advisable to go to the recently released Ubuntu version 24.04.3 LTS?

                                    Ubuntu 24 is released? Where did you get this from?

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                                      Sorry, I'm talking about 22.04.3 🙂

                                      Matrix: @nichu42:blueplanet.social

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                                      • nichu42N nichu42

                                        Sorry, I'm talking about 22.04.3 🙂

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                                        girish
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                                        @nichu42 that you can safely upgrade to

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                                          Is there any compatible issue with Ubuntu Pro and Cloudron if I enable this feature? Currently I am using Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS.

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