A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors

[jdaviescoates]

@timconsidine said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

Not entirely sure it fits in the list, but it kinda does so ... Dokku https://dokku.com

I didn't it find it so useful and have just re-purposed the VPS to try out cosmos-cloud

Close enough, added.

[jdaviescoates]

@avatar1024 said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

Would FreedomBox fall into this? For home server but feels kinda similar.

https://freedombox.org/

Added, thanks.

[jdaviescoates]

@scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

https://easypanel.io/
https://easypanel.io/templates
https://github.com/easypanel-io

Added, thanks.

[scooke]

This is the list of apps hosted on CapRover: https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/

[jdaviescoates]

@scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

This is the list of apps hosted on CapRover: https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/

Thanks, I'll add that to the OP

[adison]

isn't casm workspace like cloudron as well in a sense?

[timconsidine]

@adison said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

isn't casm workspace like cloudron as well in a sense?

No, Kasm is very different to Cloudron.
Kasm is a wrapper to launch and run VM's.

[jagan]

The next step is to add a list of apps supported on these platforms using tags.
Cloudron is the best, but it does not have all the apps.
For example, OroCRM on Cloudpanel.

[plusone-nick]

plz add: https://coolify.io

[rosano]

@jdaviescoates beautiful list, and thanks to everyone for compiling so many options here. would love to integrate more into easyindie.app (preferably ones that don't require too much command-line setup / management), it's open-source so people can also make pull requests, i can help explain how to add other platforms ️

[jdaviescoates]

@plusone-nick said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

plz add: https://coolify.io

That's quite different imho (like I would never use it myself as it's really more for developers to spin up their own apps as far as I can tell), but I've added it anyway

[jdaviescoates]

@rosano said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

would love to integrate more into easyindie.app (preferably ones that don't require too much command-line setup / management),

(yeah, some of them e.g. coolify etc aren't really quite the same ball park imho)

it's open-source so people can also make pull requests, i can help explain how to add other platforms ️

[necrevistonnezr]

Do any of these have a working mail server built-in like Cloudron has? For me, that is one of the USP.

[jdaviescoates]

@necrevistonnezr said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

Do any of these have a working mail server built-in like Cloudron has? For me, that is one of the USP.

Good question!

[scooke]

@necrevistonnezr Well, I went through the list for you. Some of them I could have told you immediately because I use them, or tried them. Suffice to say, ONLY https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Manual/Email has the option for built-in email. The rest have no email options, or offer email clients. At best, a few offer the usage of an SMTP server but it is one you must have already set up outside of the environment (like Mailgun, Sendgrid, etc.).

ONLY Cloudron mentions email on it's front page, and only Cloudron then makes its setup so seamless and easy as to almost make a user not even realize there is email! And then ONLY Cloudron offers email clients with which one can use this built-in email service.

[fbartels]

Found another one, from their description it's an interesting approach: https://selfprivacy.org/

[robi]

@fbartels cool! Seems they like Cloudron and list it on their site.. could use a rephrase though as source "available".
https://selfprivacy.org/docs/about-us/team/

[scooke]

@fbartels But they need us to use two servers?? One for services, one for DNS. And their site https://selfprivacy.org/docs/getting-started/, for me at least, doesn't actually tell me what I'm installing. But elsewhere they reference cd /etc/nixos so I guess it is based on nixos? Then there isa Linux Desktop app... is this what I install on the server?? Their instructions list

Generating tokens
Installation
Connecting to the services

but then the text skips the "Installation"... forget it! Cloudron has spoiled me for it's clarity of purpose and instruction.

[timconsidine]

@scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

Cloudron has spoiled me for it's clarity of purpose and instruction

For me too
I've looked at and tried out Dokku, CapRover, CosmosServer, Coolify, Yunohost, Sandstorm.
They each have their good points.
But overall, none come close to Cloudron as a reliable PaaS deployment.
Trying to summon the motivation to try EasyPanel, but the nagging voice in my head keeps saying "but why bother? time is precious".

[fbartels]

@scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

Cloudron has spoiled me

One of the big selling points for me too.

The way i understood their model is that you install an app on your phone (there is also a desktop app if you prefer this). And this app then provisions a server at hetzner that is installed and configured through nix.