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  • scookeS Offline
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    scooke
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    #14

    I'm running EasyPanel right now, mostly for Rotki. Their approach is two-stepped, in that you have to make a Project; within this Project you can install your own app, or you can choose from the Templates that are already prepared. Templates are essentially "apps". You can also pay to increase the number of projects, for better monitoring, and for DB backups.
    https://easypanel.io/
    https://easypanel.io/templates
    https://github.com/easypanel-io

    A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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      Cloudpanel looks more like strictly a Dashboard, but it allows for app installation and self-hosting:
      https://www.cloudpanel.io/
      https://www.cloudpanel.io/docs/v2/introduction/

      A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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        Finally, one of the first ones I tried after Cloudron, FLAP. It has a limited number of apps available, which is part of its appeal. Self-hosting, self-installing, and a fairly active Matrix channel for help.
        https://gitlab.com/flap-box/flap
        https://www.flap.cloud/ - this is their commercial offering, but it shows which apps are on offer.

        Finally, there is Enough, which looks to be similar to FLAP, but way more complicated!
        https://enough.community/
        https://forum.enough.community/

        A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

          I trade FOSS against real support, sustainable development, and allowing devs an equally sustainable income from their hard work any time of the day.

          I‘ve seen too many abandoned projects and license changes (see Hashicorp) to make FOSS a priority.

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          @necrevistonnezr said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

          I trade FOSS against real support, sustainable development, and allowing devs an equally sustainable income from their hard work any time of the day.

          As a matter of fact I also kinda of also do since for now I stick with Cloudron. Beyond the licence I do really like this community and the devs, and I was an early adopter (mind at first it was completely FOSS) so I won't give it up easily (though if the code source was not public I would have left long ago).

          But there are also successful FOSS projects that achieve the goals you're mentioning, so I just wish there would be a business model for Cloudron to achieve it too as a FOSS project, because the truth is, if one of the FOSS alternative starts to come close, I'll just have to switch and I'll be sad about it as I do believe the Cloudron devs (and other contributors) have done a tremendously good job and I would like to keep supporting it.

          So I'm watching this space, half excited and half worried. I want Cloudron to remain the best at servicing my needs, but if a FOSS alternative comes up then I can switch and stop having to justify to myself and my surrounding why Cloudron is literally the only non-free software I actively promote.

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            #18

            Any comments on which platforms make installing multiple apps on a single server easiest? Many apps are occasional-use-at-most, no real need to rent servers for each

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              Any comments on which platforms make installing multiple apps on a single server easiest? Many apps are occasional-use-at-most, no real need to rent servers for each

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              @andjules-0 said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

              Any comments on which platforms make installing multiple apps on a single server easiest?

              I've not tried most of them, but in my limited experience: Cloudron!

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • timconsidineT timconsidine

                Not entirely sure it fits in the list, but it kinda does so ... Dokku https://dokku.com

                I didn't it find it so useful and have just re-purposed the VPS to try out cosmos-cloud

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                @timconsidine said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                Not entirely sure it fits in the list, but it kinda does so ... Dokku https://dokku.com

                I didn't it find it so useful and have just re-purposed the VPS to try out cosmos-cloud

                Close enough, added.

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                • avatar1024A avatar1024

                  Would FreedomBox fall into this? For home server but feels kinda similar.

                  https://freedombox.org/

                  Thanks @jdaviescoates for compiling that list, and everyone for contributing 🙂

                  It's weird, I feel very happy with Cloudron, loves the community and the devs, and well sure some apps are still missing but packaging is happening (and well I cannot complain since I do not code), but the one thing that makes me want look elsewhere (beyond my unstoppable curiosity) is not technical or functionality, but is the damn license which is hard to justify in the world I'm in (and with the fact that I am a free software advocate / activist). I understand the devs reasons for it, and as long as the code is public I can live with it (and kinda justify it), but I really wish it could be done differently.

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                  @avatar1024 said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                  Would FreedomBox fall into this? For home server but feels kinda similar.

                  https://freedombox.org/

                  Added, thanks.

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • scookeS scooke

                    I'm running EasyPanel right now, mostly for Rotki. Their approach is two-stepped, in that you have to make a Project; within this Project you can install your own app, or you can choose from the Templates that are already prepared. Templates are essentially "apps". You can also pay to increase the number of projects, for better monitoring, and for DB backups.
                    https://easypanel.io/
                    https://easypanel.io/templates
                    https://github.com/easypanel-io

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                    @scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                    https://easypanel.io/
                    https://easypanel.io/templates
                    https://github.com/easypanel-io

                    Added, thanks.

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      #23

                      This is the list of apps hosted on CapRover: https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/

                      A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                      • scookeS scooke

                        This is the list of apps hosted on CapRover: https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/

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                        @scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                        This is the list of apps hosted on CapRover: https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/

                        Thanks, I'll add that to the OP

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          #25

                          isn't casm workspace like cloudron as well in a sense?

                          my website is not available right now

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                          • adisonA adison

                            isn't casm workspace like cloudron as well in a sense?

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                            @adison said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                            isn't casm workspace like cloudron as well in a sense?

                            No, Kasm is very different to Cloudron.
                            Kasm is a wrapper to launch and run VM's.

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                              The next step is to add a list of apps supported on these platforms using tags.
                              Cloudron is the best, but it does not have all the apps.
                              For example, OroCRM on Cloudpanel.

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                                plusone-nick
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                                plz add: https://coolify.io

                                ✌💙+1

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                                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                  We all love Cloudron because it Just Works and automates/ takes care of so much.

                                  As a bit of market research for Cloudron and as a list of other interesting options for people to try/ investigate for deploying apps that aren't yet on Cloudron, let's compile a list of the similarish "one-click install" type services that are out there.

                                  I'll get us started:

                                  YunoHost
                                  https://yunohost.org/
                                  https://yunohost.org/en/apps
                                  https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost

                                  HomelabOS
                                  https://homelabos.com/
                                  https://homelabos.com/docs/#available-software
                                  https://gitlab.com/NickBusey/HomelabOS/

                                  Ethibox
                                  https://ethibox.fr/
                                  https://ethibox.fr/apps
                                  https://github.com/ethibox/ethibox

                                  Tipi
                                  https://www.runtipi.io/
                                  https://www.runtipi.io/docs/apps-available
                                  https://github.com/meienberger/runtipi

                                  Co-op Cloud
                                  https://coopcloud.tech/
                                  https://recipes.coopcloud.tech/
                                  https://git.coopcloud.tech/coop-cloud

                                  Elestio
                                  https://elest.io/
                                  https://elest.io/fully-managed-services
                                  https://github.com/elestio

                                  Sandstorm
                                  https://sandstorm.io/
                                  https://apps.sandstorm.io/
                                  https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm

                                  CapRover
                                  https://caprover.com/
                                  https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/ (h/t @scooke for giving me that list of CapRover apps)
                                  https://github.com/caprover/caprover

                                  Umbrel
                                  https://umbrel.com/
                                  https://apps.umbrel.com/
                                  https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel

                                  Cosmos
                                  https://cosmos-cloud.io
                                  https://cosmos-cloud.io/cosmos-ui/market-listing (but apparently can do any Docker app too)
                                  https://github.com/azukaar/cosmos-server

                                  CasaOS
                                  https://casaos.io/
                                  (I can't easily find the list of apps on CasaOS but it shows them on the website)
                                  https://github.com/IceWhaleTech/CasaOS

                                  PikaPods (not self hosting, but easy App Deployment to their Cloud Infrastructure)
                                  https://www.pikapods.com/
                                  https://www.pikapods.com/apps
                                  https://github.com/pikapods (docs only)

                                  Unraid
                                  https://unraid.net/
                                  https://unraid.net/community/apps
                                  https://github.com/unraid (it's proprietary though, so you wont find the code there)

                                  Dokku
                                  https://dokku.com
                                  https://github.com/dokku/dokku/
                                  No list of apps, but "you can push Heroku-compatible applications to it via Git"

                                  FreedomBox
                                  https://freedombox.org/
                                  https://salsa.debian.org/freedombox-team/freedombox/
                                  Can't find a simple list but check the demo and manual

                                  Easypanel
                                  https://easypanel.io/
                                  https://easypanel.io/templates
                                  https://github.com/easypanel-io

                                  Coolify - An open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative.
                                  https://coolify.io/
                                  https://coolify.io/docs/installation
                                  https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify/blob/main/scripts/install.sh
                                  https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify/

                                  There is also this handy tool by @rosano that lists all the apps available on Cloudron, YunoHost and CapRover https://easyindie.app/ (be cool if it listed all the apps on all these systems!)

                                  What else is out there?

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                                  @jdaviescoates beautiful list, and thanks to everyone for compiling so many options here. would love to integrate more into easyindie.app (preferably ones that don't require too much command-line setup / management), it's open-source so people can also make pull requests, i can help explain how to add other platforms ☀️

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                                  • P plusone-nick

                                    plz add: https://coolify.io

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                                    @plusone-nick said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                                    plz add: https://coolify.io

                                    That's quite different imho (like I would never use it myself as it's really more for developers to spin up their own apps as far as I can tell), but I've added it anyway 🙂

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    • rosanoR rosano

                                      @jdaviescoates beautiful list, and thanks to everyone for compiling so many options here. would love to integrate more into easyindie.app (preferably ones that don't require too much command-line setup / management), it's open-source so people can also make pull requests, i can help explain how to add other platforms ☀️

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                                      @rosano said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                                      would love to integrate more into easyindie.app (preferably ones that don't require too much command-line setup / management),

                                      👍 (yeah, some of them e.g. coolify etc aren't really quite the same ball park imho)

                                      it's open-source so people can also make pull requests, i can help explain how to add other platforms ☀️

                                      👏

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                        Do any of these have a working mail server built-in like Cloudron has? For me, that is one of the USP.

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                                        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                          Do any of these have a working mail server built-in like Cloudron has? For me, that is one of the USP.

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                                          @necrevistonnezr said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

                                          Do any of these have a working mail server built-in like Cloudron has? For me, that is one of the USP.

                                          Good question!

                                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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