Cloudron makes it easy to run web apps like WordPress, Nextcloud, GitLab on your server. Find out more or install now.


Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Bookmarks
  • Search
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

Cloudron Forum

Apps | Demo | Docs | Install
  1. Cloudron Forum
  2. Support
  3. Nextcloud Backup without Data

Nextcloud Backup without Data

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Support
backupscifshetznerhardlinks
24 Posts 5 Posters 4.0k Views 5 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • girishG Offline
    girishG Offline
    girish
    Staff
    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    @iqweb We are monitoring @nebulon 's backups in the meantime, so we can find a workaround. Maybe as simple as a retry or maybe using rsync instead or creating hardlinks manually in node might do the trick.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • M Offline
      M Offline
      msbt
      App Dev
      wrote on last edited by
      #15

      I've been using hardlinks for a few days now and encountered no problems so far. Would the backup job notify me if some links couldn't be generated? Not sure what happened the last time I tried that.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • nebulonN Offline
        nebulonN Offline
        nebulon
        Staff
        wrote on last edited by
        #16

        Yes you would receive a notification and email if a backup job failed

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • I Offline
          I Offline
          iqweb
          wrote on last edited by
          #17

          Seems to be working for me now too!

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • I iqweb

            I also asked hetzner support about hardlinks & they said:

            It seems that Samba is transferring the Hard Links correct, but not always showing them correct.
            You could use rsync directly, in order to back up your data to the Storage Box.
            For example:
            -----------------%<-----------------
            rsync --progress -H -e 'ssh -p23' --recursive <local_directory> <username>@<username>.your-storagebox.de:<target_directory>
            -----------------%<-----------------
            

            Also - like msbt - it was working in the beginning & then started giving errors about hardlinks.

            jdaviescoates - Do you mean the borgbackup to Hetzner storagebox - or the Synology pull?

            nebulon - Is there a way to do a cloudron app only -minus nc data backup? I'm only able to keep 2 days of native cloudron backups at the moment & would very much prefer more than that!

            jdaviescoatesJ Offline
            jdaviescoatesJ Offline
            jdaviescoates
            wrote on last edited by
            #18

            @iqweb said in Nextcloud Backup without Data:

            jdaviescoates - Do you mean the borgbackup to Hetzner storagebox - or the Synology pull?

            Both! Thanks 😊

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • nebulonN Offline
              nebulonN Offline
              nebulon
              Staff
              wrote on last edited by
              #19

              Just a heads up, I have seen some bad behavior with cifs mount and hard-links on my personal Cloudron, which made some backups corrupt.

              So please everyone who is using this for now with relevant data, do not use hardlinks.

              jdaviescoatesJ 1 Reply Last reply
              1
              • girishG Offline
                girishG Offline
                girish
                Staff
                wrote on last edited by
                #20

                We have now setup a separate hetzner box to sync large amount of data to debug this issue.

                1 Reply Last reply
                1
                • nebulonN nebulon

                  Just a heads up, I have seen some bad behavior with cifs mount and hard-links on my personal Cloudron, which made some backups corrupt.

                  So please everyone who is using this for now with relevant data, do not use hardlinks.

                  jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                  jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                  jdaviescoates
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #21

                  @nebulon said in Nextcloud Backup without Data:

                  So please everyone who is using this for now with relevant data, do not use hardlinks.

                  I'm not sure if this applies to me or not. I backup to a Hetzner Cloud Volume (not storage box). Currently I have hardlinks enabled. Should I turn them off?

                  What should I look for in the logs to see if this is effecting me?

                  Thanks!

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • nebulonN Offline
                    nebulonN Offline
                    nebulon
                    Staff
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #22

                    It highly depends on how a "disk" is mounted onto the server. The hardlinks issue is only there for cifs mounts and since cifs/samba support hardlinks since a very long time, this seems to be related in particular to the hetzner storage boxes at the moment.

                    jdaviescoatesJ 1 Reply Last reply
                    1
                    • nebulonN nebulon

                      It highly depends on how a "disk" is mounted onto the server. The hardlinks issue is only there for cifs mounts and since cifs/samba support hardlinks since a very long time, this seems to be related in particular to the hetzner storage boxes at the moment.

                      jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                      jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                      jdaviescoates
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #23

                      @nebulon OK thanks, so I don't think this applies to me.

                      This is how Hetzner Cloud Volumes are mounted:

                      mounting a hetzner volume.png

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • nebulonN Offline
                        nebulonN Offline
                        nebulon
                        Staff
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #24

                        correct in your case this should not be any issue as this is mounted like a regular ext4 which supports hardlinks just fine.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        2
                        Reply
                        • Reply as topic
                        Log in to reply
                        • Oldest to Newest
                        • Newest to Oldest
                        • Most Votes


                        • Login

                        • Don't have an account? Register

                        • Login or register to search.
                        • First post
                          Last post
                        0
                        • Categories
                        • Recent
                        • Tags
                        • Popular
                        • Bookmarks
                        • Search