A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors

[scooke]

Finally, one of the first ones I tried after Cloudron, FLAP. It has a limited number of apps available, which is part of its appeal. Self-hosting, self-installing, and a fairly active Matrix channel for help.
https://gitlab.com/flap-box/flap
https://www.flap.cloud/ - this is their commercial offering, but it shows which apps are on offer.

Finally, there is Enough, which looks to be similar to FLAP, but way more complicated!
https://enough.community/
https://forum.enough.community/

[avatar1024]

@necrevistonnezr said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

I trade FOSS against real support, sustainable development, and allowing devs an equally sustainable income from their hard work any time of the day.

As a matter of fact I also kinda of also do since for now I stick with Cloudron. Beyond the licence I do really like this community and the devs, and I was an early adopter (mind at first it was completely FOSS) so I won't give it up easily (though if the code source was not public I would have left long ago).

But there are also successful FOSS projects that achieve the goals you're mentioning, so I just wish there would be a business model for Cloudron to achieve it too as a FOSS project, because the truth is, if one of the FOSS alternative starts to come close, I'll just have to switch and I'll be sad about it as I do believe the Cloudron devs (and other contributors) have done a tremendously good job and I would like to keep supporting it.

So I'm watching this space, half excited and half worried. I want Cloudron to remain the best at servicing my needs, but if a FOSS alternative comes up then I can switch and stop having to justify to myself and my surrounding why Cloudron is literally the only non-free software I actively promote.

[andjules 0]

Any comments on which platforms make installing multiple apps on a single server easiest? Many apps are occasional-use-at-most, no real need to rent servers for each

[jdaviescoates]

@andjules-0 said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

Any comments on which platforms make installing multiple apps on a single server easiest?

I've not tried most of them, but in my limited experience: Cloudron!

[jdaviescoates]

@timconsidine said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

Not entirely sure it fits in the list, but it kinda does so ... Dokku https://dokku.com

I didn't it find it so useful and have just re-purposed the VPS to try out cosmos-cloud

Close enough, added.

[jdaviescoates]

@avatar1024 said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

Would FreedomBox fall into this? For home server but feels kinda similar.

https://freedombox.org/

Added, thanks.

[jdaviescoates]

@scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

https://easypanel.io/
https://easypanel.io/templates
https://github.com/easypanel-io

Added, thanks.

[scooke]

This is the list of apps hosted on CapRover: https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/

[jdaviescoates]

@scooke said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

This is the list of apps hosted on CapRover: https://wizardly-ptolemy-8fcac8.netlify.app/

Thanks, I'll add that to the OP

[adison]

isn't casm workspace like cloudron as well in a sense?

[timconsidine]

@adison said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

isn't casm workspace like cloudron as well in a sense?

No, Kasm is very different to Cloudron.
Kasm is a wrapper to launch and run VM's.

[jagan]

The next step is to add a list of apps supported on these platforms using tags.
Cloudron is the best, but it does not have all the apps.
For example, OroCRM on Cloudpanel.

[plusone-nick]

plz add: https://coolify.io

[rosano]

@jdaviescoates beautiful list, and thanks to everyone for compiling so many options here. would love to integrate more into easyindie.app (preferably ones that don't require too much command-line setup / management), it's open-source so people can also make pull requests, i can help explain how to add other platforms ️

[jdaviescoates]

@plusone-nick said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

plz add: https://coolify.io

That's quite different imho (like I would never use it myself as it's really more for developers to spin up their own apps as far as I can tell), but I've added it anyway

[jdaviescoates]

@rosano said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

would love to integrate more into easyindie.app (preferably ones that don't require too much command-line setup / management),

(yeah, some of them e.g. coolify etc aren't really quite the same ball park imho)

it's open-source so people can also make pull requests, i can help explain how to add other platforms ️

[necrevistonnezr]

Do any of these have a working mail server built-in like Cloudron has? For me, that is one of the USP.

[jdaviescoates]

@necrevistonnezr said in A list of Cloudron-like services/ competitors:

Do any of these have a working mail server built-in like Cloudron has? For me, that is one of the USP.

Good question!

[scooke]

@necrevistonnezr Well, I went through the list for you. Some of them I could have told you immediately because I use them, or tried them. Suffice to say, ONLY https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Manual/Email has the option for built-in email. The rest have no email options, or offer email clients. At best, a few offer the usage of an SMTP server but it is one you must have already set up outside of the environment (like Mailgun, Sendgrid, etc.).

ONLY Cloudron mentions email on it's front page, and only Cloudron then makes its setup so seamless and easy as to almost make a user not even realize there is email! And then ONLY Cloudron offers email clients with which one can use this built-in email service.

[fbartels]

Found another one, from their description it's an interesting approach: https://selfprivacy.org/