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Jitsi Meet



  • @fbartels Well, that's good news, if you could get this solution up to speed I think you'll get ahead of the pack... For various reasons I really don't like the "just the link is needed" promises which then require the participants to download an app to actually make it work.



  • @scooke Thank you for the reply. It is useful that you shared your experience. However as @yusf pointed out, if Jitsi was a Cloudron app then the set-up would be easy.
    Now I'm not sure I agree with you on the usability, and this might be a matter of personal preference which I don't we should discussed back and forth on here. As long as you use a laptop, you indeed only need the URL with Jitsi and you do not need an app. So @nebulon is right on this. Only on a phone you need an app, and while the jitsi app is not perfect, it works fine. You do not need to enter the whole url, only room name works (by default it uses the meet.jit.si domain but you can change the server url in the settings to put your own). Personally, out of the other Free Software option out there, Jitsi stills seem the most mature, reliable and easy to use so it'd be a great addition to Cloudron (and indeed very needed currently).

    Do we know if anyone is working on this? (I wish I could contribute but I'm not a programmer sadly)

    @jdaviescoates Thanks for the reply


  • Staff

    For jitsi to work properly, we would need a coturn instance on Cloudron, which unfortunately has to run on port 80/443 to work reliably on public wifis (other ports are often blocked there). So far we haven't found a solution to make turn work with our nginx reverse proxy, which also has to run on the same ports. If anyone finds a solution here, which we can try, I am happy to give it a shot.



  • @nebulon damn, guess that means Jitsi wont be coming to Cloudron any time soon šŸ˜• wish I could help, but have no idea!



  • @nebulon That is very unfortunate, but thank you for explaining these underlying issues. Do I understand it correctly that if there's a solution, the TURN server would need to be a part of the Cloudron software itself, not an app?



  • @nebulon said in Jitsi Meet:

    For jitsi to work properly, we would need a coturn instance on Cloudron, which unfortunately has to run on port 80/443 to work reliably on public wifis (other ports are often blocked there)

    Perhaps an interim solution would be to use other ports? I'm mean, it'd be great if people could join using open public WiFi, but I think in many use cases Jitsi not working on such networks wouldn't be too much of an issue. Eg. Like right now the need is for people in covid_19 coronavirus lockdown using their own private WiFi to be able to use it.

    I note @iqweb has managed to install a coturn server on the same VPS as their Cloudron, for use with Nextcloud Talk, could that be part of the solution to getting Jitsi working too? https://forum.cloudron.io/post/4207


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    Before everyone jumps to conclusions šŸ™‚ So far, @nebulon has been trying to make coturn to be part of the app itself. This is indeed quite hard.

    So, I think what this means is that we have to integrate the turn server into the platform code base itself. So, it would become an addon/service just like the databases and other things. And then nextcloud, jitsi, kopano meet etc can just use this coturn service. Integrating coturn into cloudron is not very hard but will require a new release of Cloudron.



  • Thanks for the added clarity, @girish - certainly look forward to this and other apps such an addition would enable!



  • @girish said in Jitsi Meet:

    So, I think what this means is that we have to integrate the turn server into the platform code base itself. So, it would become an addon/service just like the databases and other things. And then nextcloud, jitsi, kopano meet etc can just use this coturn service. Integrating coturn into cloudron is not very hard but will require a new release of Cloudron.

    šŸ™‚

    That'd be totally awesome!

    Which I guess is what we've come to expect from Cloudron šŸ˜„

    It also sounds like having a turn server service/ addon that can be used by nextcloud talk/ jitsi meet/ kopano meet etc, would be a much better solution anyway, so I'm actually really glad that making it part of the app is hard! šŸ™‚



  • Great thinking @girish! In addition to Nextcloud Talk, Jitsi Meet and Kopano, the Matrix app will also benefit from this.



  • On the app packaging level, has there been efforts to include LDAP support? Iā€™d like for Cloudron users to be the ones able to create rooms, then able to invite whoever: users and guests alike.



  • LDAP seems to be supported out of the box in dockerized Jitsi Meet! šŸŽ‰



  • Sounds like end to end encryption coming to jitsi soon (although also sounds like perhaps only for chromium/ chrome):

    https://jitsi.org/news/e2ee/



  • Any news on a Jitsi app on Cloudron?

    The Privacy Authority of The Netherlands published a overview of video-call apps (https://autoriteitpersoonsgegevens.nl/nl/nieuws/keuzehulp-privacy-bij-videobel-apps) and here (https://autoriteitpersoonsgegevens.nl/sites/default/files/atoms/files/keuzehulp_privacy_videobellen.pdf) you see that it looks like Jitsi is the best choice!



  • @girish is there any news? Our experience with Kopano Meet was not succesfull and as mentioned above Jitsi is the best solution in this COVID-19 times.



  • Iā€™m also awaiting Jitsi. Maybe it would also make sense from a (Cloudron) marketing perspective? Like,

    Ready to drop Zoom for something free, unlimited and safe? Host Jitsi Meet yourself in 10 clicks with Cloudron.


  • Staff

    No major news on this so far, unfortunately it is quite the beast to package with a lot of undocumented configuration options, even their own debian packaging scripts are a hit and miss in our experience. Surely it would be good to have and hopefully eventually we will get there.



  • @nebulon Keep us posted for any aid you need in furthering this endeavor.


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