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Dify.ai, a self-hosted prompt-management tool

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  • luckowL luckow

    @timconsidine Have you ever built a knowledge base? All my files are stuck in some kind of queue. They never get processed.

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    timconsidine
    App Dev
    wrote on last edited by
    #18

    @luckow am dusting off Dify on Cloudron, currently working on build 0.0.23, some sandbox and marketplace errors persist.
    Standby ...

    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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      App Dev
      wrote on last edited by
      #19

      @luckow
      I pushed v0.0.23 to git repo
      ✅ marketplace access and install
      ✅ my cloudron hosted ollama set as model provider (needs open-ai-compatible plugin)
      ✅ set my Ollama for nomic-text-embed
      ✅ created knowledge with a single document
      ❌🤷 doc stuck in queue

      Investigating ....

      Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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      • luckowL luckow

        @timconsidine Have you ever built a knowledge base? All my files are stuck in some kind of queue. They never get processed.

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        App Dev
        wrote on last edited by timconsidine
        #20

        @luckow
        Think I have resolved knowledge import / indexing
        Not tested heavily but I got a single 1Mb PDF through the process.

        Pushed 0.0.24 to GitHub
        Also created new docker image :
        tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:v0.0.24 (or :latest)

        Screenshot 2026-02-25 at 17.44.14.png

        Still working on a fix to sandbox for workflows but best to get the knowledge RAG out in the wild for additional testing.

        Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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          App Dev
          wrote on last edited by
          #21

          Sandbox issue resolved
          Pushed v0.0.25
          tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:v0.0.25 (or :latest)

          Screenshot 2026-02-25 at 17.51.34.png

          More real-world testing needed, but hopefully we're making progress towards a v1.0.0 release

          Install via 1 line install :
          curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "dify"

          Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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            App Dev
            wrote on last edited by
            #22

            Added Playwright to the build (so playwright plugin can be used : needs URI in plugin config of ws://localhost:3003)

            pushed v0.0.28
            tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:v0.0.28 (or :latest)

            Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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            • timconsidineT timconsidine

              Added Playwright to the build (so playwright plugin can be used : needs URI in plugin config of ws://localhost:3003)

              pushed v0.0.28
              tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:v0.0.28 (or :latest)

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              luckow
              translator
              wrote on last edited by
              #23

              @timconsidine will look into it later.

              Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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              • timconsidineT timconsidine

                Added Playwright to the build (so playwright plugin can be used : needs URI in plugin config of ws://localhost:3003)

                pushed v0.0.28
                tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:v0.0.28 (or :latest)

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                luckow
                translator
                wrote on last edited by
                #24

                @timconsidine anything wrong on my side?

                Installing App to diffy.example.org ...
                Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest
                ✘ Installation failed: No such route
                Details: {
                  "status": "Not Found",
                  "message": "No such route"
                }
                

                This it the output of curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "Dify AI" but same error from insie CCAI-P

                Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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                • luckowL luckow

                  @timconsidine anything wrong on my side?

                  Installing App to diffy.example.org ...
                  Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest
                  ✘ Installation failed: No such route
                  Details: {
                    "status": "Not Found",
                    "message": "No such route"
                  }
                  

                  This it the output of curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "Dify AI" but same error from insie CCAI-P

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #25

                  @luckow Not likely your side.

                  I've had similar issues with CCAI failing installs. Either a package bug missing something or CCAI.

                  Conscious tech

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                  • luckowL luckow

                    @timconsidine anything wrong on my side?

                    Installing App to diffy.example.org ...
                    Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest
                    ✘ Installation failed: No such route
                    Details: {
                      "status": "Not Found",
                      "message": "No such route"
                    }
                    

                    This it the output of curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "Dify AI" but same error from insie CCAI-P

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                    App Dev
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #26

                    @luckow

                    % curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "Dify AI"
                    CustomAppGateway Universal Installer
                    ----------------------------------------
                    Detected OS: Darwin (arm64)
                    Downloading installer from: https://customappgateway.appx.uk/cag-installer-macos
                    Running Installer...
                    ----------------------------------------
                    Welcome to the Custom App Gateway (CAG) Installer
                    -----------------------------------------------
                    Fetching catalogue to find app: Dify AI...
                    ✔ Found App: Dify AI (undefined)
                    NOTE: You will need an API Token from your Cloudron Profile.
                          Go to https://my.your-cloudron.com/#/profile to generate one.
                    ? Enter your Cloudron Domain (e.g., my.example.com): my.example.uk
                    ? Enter your Cloudron API Token: ****************************************************************
                    ? Enter the subdomain to install the app (e.g., ccai.example.com): jumble.xapps.uk
                    
                    Validating connection...
                    ✔ Connection successful
                    
                    Fetching App Manifest...
                    Fetching manifest from: https://customappgateway.appx.uk/deploy/dify/CloudronManifest.json
                    ✔ Manifest fetched successfully
                    Resolving manifest file references...
                    
                    Installing App to jumble.xapps.uk...
                    Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest
                    
                    ✔ Installation Started! (This may take a few minutes)
                    App ID: 35125028-84f0-4fb7-a307-eb6adaa6d691
                    You can check the progress in your Cloudron Dashboard.
                    Please wait for the app to enter "Running" state before using it.
                    
                    SECURITY REMINDER: Please DELETE the API Token you used for this installation now.
                    
                    ----------------------------------------
                    Cleaning up...
                    Done.
                    

                    Takes a while to download image because it's a BIG image.
                    Then :

                    Screenshot 2026-03-07 at 18.07.24.png

                    So ... I don't know for sure 🤷 but I would suspect network issue somewhere.

                    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                    • luckowL luckow

                      @timconsidine anything wrong on my side?

                      Installing App to diffy.example.org ...
                      Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest
                      ✘ Installation failed: No such route
                      Details: {
                        "status": "Not Found",
                        "message": "No such route"
                      }
                      

                      This it the output of curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "Dify AI" but same error from insie CCAI-P

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                      App Dev
                      wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                      #27

                      @luckow said:

                      Installing App to diffy.example.org ...
                      Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest
                      ✘ Installation failed: No such route

                      [I assume diffy.example.org is just obfuscation for the forum. 👍 ]

                      Compared to this :

                      Installing App to jumble.xapps.uk...
                      Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest

                      ✔ Installation Started! (This may take a few minutes)

                      I think this suggests / confirms network issue.
                      Try again, maybe ?

                      The first part of the sequence (the script) runs in seconds, so re-trying is do-able.
                      The second part (the cloudron install) takes few minutes because of image size.

                      Are you running the install on your desktop/laptop ? Or on your Cloudron instance ?
                      Either way, I suspect temporary network failure connecting to hub.docker.com


                      Edit : I would do some standard network diagnostics.

                      % ping hub.docker.com
                      PING hub.docker.com.cdn.cloudflare.net (104.18.43.187): 56 data bytes
                      64 bytes from 104.18.43.187: icmp_seq=0 ttl=58 time=11.143 ms
                      64 bytes from 104.18.43.187: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=11.543 ms
                      64 bytes from 104.18.43.187: icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=10.148 ms
                      ^C
                      --- hub.docker.com.cdn.cloudflare.net ping statistics ---
                      3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
                      round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 10.148/10.945/11.543/0.587 ms


                      Hmmm, possibly a Cloudflare issue ?

                      Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                      • timconsidineT timconsidine

                        @luckow said:

                        Installing App to diffy.example.org ...
                        Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest
                        ✘ Installation failed: No such route

                        [I assume diffy.example.org is just obfuscation for the forum. 👍 ]

                        Compared to this :

                        Installing App to jumble.xapps.uk...
                        Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest

                        ✔ Installation Started! (This may take a few minutes)

                        I think this suggests / confirms network issue.
                        Try again, maybe ?

                        The first part of the sequence (the script) runs in seconds, so re-trying is do-able.
                        The second part (the cloudron install) takes few minutes because of image size.

                        Are you running the install on your desktop/laptop ? Or on your Cloudron instance ?
                        Either way, I suspect temporary network failure connecting to hub.docker.com


                        Edit : I would do some standard network diagnostics.

                        % ping hub.docker.com
                        PING hub.docker.com.cdn.cloudflare.net (104.18.43.187): 56 data bytes
                        64 bytes from 104.18.43.187: icmp_seq=0 ttl=58 time=11.143 ms
                        64 bytes from 104.18.43.187: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=11.543 ms
                        64 bytes from 104.18.43.187: icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=10.148 ms
                        ^C
                        --- hub.docker.com.cdn.cloudflare.net ping statistics ---
                        3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
                        round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 10.148/10.945/11.543/0.587 ms


                        Hmmm, possibly a Cloudflare issue ?

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #28

                        @timconsidine can you check your chats?

                        Conscious tech

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                        • timconsidineT timconsidine

                          @luckow

                          % curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "Dify AI"
                          CustomAppGateway Universal Installer
                          ----------------------------------------
                          Detected OS: Darwin (arm64)
                          Downloading installer from: https://customappgateway.appx.uk/cag-installer-macos
                          Running Installer...
                          ----------------------------------------
                          Welcome to the Custom App Gateway (CAG) Installer
                          -----------------------------------------------
                          Fetching catalogue to find app: Dify AI...
                          ✔ Found App: Dify AI (undefined)
                          NOTE: You will need an API Token from your Cloudron Profile.
                                Go to https://my.your-cloudron.com/#/profile to generate one.
                          ? Enter your Cloudron Domain (e.g., my.example.com): my.example.uk
                          ? Enter your Cloudron API Token: ****************************************************************
                          ? Enter the subdomain to install the app (e.g., ccai.example.com): jumble.xapps.uk
                          
                          Validating connection...
                          ✔ Connection successful
                          
                          Fetching App Manifest...
                          Fetching manifest from: https://customappgateway.appx.uk/deploy/dify/CloudronManifest.json
                          ✔ Manifest fetched successfully
                          Resolving manifest file references...
                          
                          Installing App to jumble.xapps.uk...
                          Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest
                          
                          ✔ Installation Started! (This may take a few minutes)
                          App ID: 35125028-84f0-4fb7-a307-eb6adaa6d691
                          You can check the progress in your Cloudron Dashboard.
                          Please wait for the app to enter "Running" state before using it.
                          
                          SECURITY REMINDER: Please DELETE the API Token you used for this installation now.
                          
                          ----------------------------------------
                          Cleaning up...
                          Done.
                          

                          Takes a while to download image because it's a BIG image.
                          Then :

                          Screenshot 2026-03-07 at 18.07.24.png

                          So ... I don't know for sure 🤷 but I would suspect network issue somewhere.

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                          luckow
                          translator
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #29

                          @timconsidine same on the third network:

                          curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "Dify AI"
                          CustomAppGateway Universal Installer
                          ----------------------------------------
                          Detected OS: Linux (x86_64)
                          Downloading installer from: https://customappgateway.appx.uk/cag-installer-linux
                          Running Installer...
                          ----------------------------------------
                          Welcome to the Custom App Gateway (CAG) Installer
                          -----------------------------------------------
                          Fetching catalogue to find app: Dify AI...
                          ✔ Found App: Dify AI (undefined)
                          NOTE: You will need an API Token from your Cloudron Profile.
                                Go to https://my.your-cloudron.com/#/profile to generate one.
                          ? Enter your Cloudron Domain (e.g., my.example.com): my.example.org
                          ? Enter your Cloudron API Token: ****************************************************************
                          ? Enter the subdomain to install the app (e.g., ccai.example.com): dify.example.org
                          
                          Validating connection...
                          ✔ Connection successful
                          
                          Fetching App Manifest...
                          Fetching manifest from: https://customappgateway.appx.uk/deploy/dify/CloudronManifest.json
                          ✔ Manifest fetched successfully
                          Resolving manifest file references...
                          
                          Installing App to dify.example.org...
                          Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest
                          ✘ Installation failed: No such route
                          Details: {
                            "status": "Not Found",
                            "message": "No such route"
                          }
                          
                          ping hub.docker.com 
                          PING hub.docker.com (2606:4700:4409::ac40:9045) 56 Datenbytes
                          64 Bytes von 2606:4700:4409::ac40:9045: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 Zeit=43.1 ms
                          64 Bytes von 2606:4700:4409::ac40:9045: icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 Zeit=48.4 ms
                          64 Bytes von 2606:4700:4409::ac40:9045: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 Zeit=47.0 ms
                          

                          I have no idea what the difference is between your network and mine.

                          Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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                          • luckowL luckow

                            @timconsidine same on the third network:

                            curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "Dify AI"
                            CustomAppGateway Universal Installer
                            ----------------------------------------
                            Detected OS: Linux (x86_64)
                            Downloading installer from: https://customappgateway.appx.uk/cag-installer-linux
                            Running Installer...
                            ----------------------------------------
                            Welcome to the Custom App Gateway (CAG) Installer
                            -----------------------------------------------
                            Fetching catalogue to find app: Dify AI...
                            ✔ Found App: Dify AI (undefined)
                            NOTE: You will need an API Token from your Cloudron Profile.
                                  Go to https://my.your-cloudron.com/#/profile to generate one.
                            ? Enter your Cloudron Domain (e.g., my.example.com): my.example.org
                            ? Enter your Cloudron API Token: ****************************************************************
                            ? Enter the subdomain to install the app (e.g., ccai.example.com): dify.example.org
                            
                            Validating connection...
                            ✔ Connection successful
                            
                            Fetching App Manifest...
                            Fetching manifest from: https://customappgateway.appx.uk/deploy/dify/CloudronManifest.json
                            ✔ Manifest fetched successfully
                            Resolving manifest file references...
                            
                            Installing App to dify.example.org...
                            Image: tcmbp132021/cloudron-dify:latest
                            ✘ Installation failed: No such route
                            Details: {
                              "status": "Not Found",
                              "message": "No such route"
                            }
                            
                            ping hub.docker.com 
                            PING hub.docker.com (2606:4700:4409::ac40:9045) 56 Datenbytes
                            64 Bytes von 2606:4700:4409::ac40:9045: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 Zeit=43.1 ms
                            64 Bytes von 2606:4700:4409::ac40:9045: icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 Zeit=48.4 ms
                            64 Bytes von 2606:4700:4409::ac40:9045: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 Zeit=47.0 ms
                            

                            I have no idea what the difference is between your network and mine.

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                            timconsidine
                            App Dev
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            @luckow well seems to me it is docker hub access issue, not an app issue.
                            My ping was via cloudflare and IPV4
                            Yours seem ipv6 and direct.
                            No idea why either difference would be a blocker.

                            I’ll try some diagnosis

                            Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                              timconsidine
                              App Dev
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #31

                              Re-packaged as a community app :

                              Cloudron Versions:
                              https://communityapps.appx.uk/cloudron-dify/CloudronVersions.json

                              WARNING : it's a big 3.6Gb image to pull down : be patient.

                              Community Apps Website:
                              https://communityapps.appx.uk

                              [ @community-apps ]

                              @luckow does the community app solve your image download ?

                              @James, how do we communicate updates available ? Just push new details to CloudronVersions.json and Cloudron platform will pick them up and advise those who installed it ? (no update in this one - just a repackage)

                              Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                              • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                Re-packaged as a community app :

                                Cloudron Versions:
                                https://communityapps.appx.uk/cloudron-dify/CloudronVersions.json

                                WARNING : it's a big 3.6Gb image to pull down : be patient.

                                Community Apps Website:
                                https://communityapps.appx.uk

                                [ @community-apps ]

                                @luckow does the community app solve your image download ?

                                @James, how do we communicate updates available ? Just push new details to CloudronVersions.json and Cloudron platform will pick them up and advise those who installed it ? (no update in this one - just a repackage)

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                                luckow
                                translator
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #32

                                @timconsidine Yes. Great. The download and installation went smoothly.

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                                • luckowL luckow

                                  @timconsidine Yes. Great. The download and installation went smoothly.

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                                  timconsidine
                                  App Dev
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #33

                                  @luckow phew !

                                  Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                                  • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                    Re-packaged as a community app :

                                    Cloudron Versions:
                                    https://communityapps.appx.uk/cloudron-dify/CloudronVersions.json

                                    WARNING : it's a big 3.6Gb image to pull down : be patient.

                                    Community Apps Website:
                                    https://communityapps.appx.uk

                                    [ @community-apps ]

                                    @luckow does the community app solve your image download ?

                                    @James, how do we communicate updates available ? Just push new details to CloudronVersions.json and Cloudron platform will pick them up and advise those who installed it ? (no update in this one - just a repackage)

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                                    Staff
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #34

                                    Hello @timconsidine

                                    When you update the CloudronManifest.json file at e.g.: https://communityapps.appx.uk/cloudron-dify/CloudronVersions.json installation that used this URL will pickup the update automatically.

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                                      @timconsidine if you want (to increase you work 😄 ), you can open a separate package updates thread for a package.

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                                        #36

                                        FWIW, Dify.ai is licensed under a modified version of the Apache License 2.0 with additional conditions:-
                                        https://github.com/langgenius/dify/blob/main/LICENSE

                                        Self-hoster with Cloudron, Hetzner, Exoscale, Porkbun & Gandi

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                                        • E ekevu123

                                          For all developers who work with large language models and prompts, there are graphical user interfaces that can make life easier.

                                          Dify.ai is especially good and, that's the best part, it can be self-hosted.
                                          Self-hosting documentation: https://docs.dify.ai/getting-started/install-self-hosted

                                          Feature overview:

                                          • Building visual prompt workflows
                                          • Supports multiple LLMs, incl. open-source ones
                                          • Supports RAGs and vector databases
                                          • It has an API that you can use to integrate into your own application
                                          • You can log and evaluate your user's requests

                                          I searched for a long time for a good open solution, and came to the conclusion that this is my favourite.

                                          I would love to see this on cloudron and maybe other developers who work with LLMs might agree.

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