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      uiharu
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      I finally upgraded cloudron by switching to no-op 😛

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        relates to the discussion here: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1288/support-encrypted-rsync-backups-to-onedrive-dropbox-etc/7

        I think Cloudron would benefit greatly from a working encrypted backup solution....

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          FWIW switching to rsync fixed the original issue of this thread in my case. Figured I'd update here to let folks know.

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            @uiharu As you probably know, Cloudron always takes a complete app backup because updating an app. Overall, would you prefer that Cloudron have an option to disable backups a per-app level or would you prefer the backup to actually work?

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              uiharu
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              #9

              @girish ofc we need a working (reliable) backup mechanism!

              imo the current disable option is already good enough and allows me to easily go around backup errors that prevent upgrades etc.

              Maybe...

              • differential backup/hard-linking support for some remote backup destination will help with stability
              • btrfs, zfs offers more stable snapshots and should be supported in the future
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                If I was to push an rsync cloudron backup to a remote location, it should be sufficient to backup the "snapshot" folder, correct? not the folder named "2018-05-XX-XXXXXXXX" as well.

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                  @necrevistonnezr yes, correct. The snapshot directory is the "working directory" for backups. It gets rotated as-is into the timestamped directory. For filesystem, you will notice that the files between snapshot directory and time stamped directory are hard-links.

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                    @necrevistonnezr yes, correct. The snapshot directory is the "working directory" for backups. It gets rotated as-is into the timestamped directory. For filesystem, you will notice that the files between snapshot directory and time stamped directory are hard-links.

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                    necrevistonnezr
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                    @girish
                    rcloning the "snapshot" directory works. However, I'm getting two errors:

                    2018/06/04 13:57:51 ERROR : Attempt 3/3 failed with 2 errors and: invalidRequest: nameContainsInvalidCharacters: Path (/LiveFolders/cloudron/205.oDD_s5s39188-3p61-1336-5p10-p26tp62t1oo5/154.qnGn/134.uJGwLA/19.ilohv/251.cmkxxoBZBy/1.ZkzsoBuBkw PsxkxJox Exn foBCsmroBExq ) contains invalid trailing character.
                    
                    2018/06/04 13:57:51 Failed to sync: invalidRequest: nameContainsInvalidCharacters: Path (/LiveFolders/cloudron/205.oDD_s5s39188-3p61-1336-5p10-p26tp62t1oo5/154.qnGn/134.uJGwLA/19.ilohv/251.cmkxxoBZBy/1.ZkzsoBuBkw PsxkxJox Exn foBCsmroBExq ) contains invalid trailing character.
                    

                    Is that problematic in a case of restore?

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                      @necrevistonnezr What rclone backend are you using? It looks like rclone is complaining that the backend does not like having files with a trailing whitespace.

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                        @necrevistonnezr What rclone backend are you using? It looks like rclone is complaining that the backend does not like having files with a trailing whitespace.

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                        necrevistonnezr
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                        @girish I'm using the Onedrive backend via the crypt backend (https://rclone.org/crypt/) and obfuscated file names.

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                          @necrevistonnezr What rclone backend are you using? It looks like rclone is complaining that the backend does not like having files with a trailing whitespace.

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                          @girish I also realized that the mysqldump for the TT-RSS app is huge (679 MB in my case). Could you implement some compession in the database dumps (and use PostgreSQL as recommended by the author)?

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