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MiroTalk Update regularly fails after update

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  • avatar1024A Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    I have had that happened with Mirotalk too,. Sometimes update get stuck. Happens less often these days but still sometimes. I either have to restart the app or remove and reinstall.

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      wrote on last edited by MiroTalk
      #5

      Port allocation behavior

      By default, when SFU_SERVER is set to false, the application uses a range of 100 ports.

      when SFU_SERVER=true it allocate ports starting from 40000 default + CPU core eg if your server has 4CPU so become 40000 - 40003 (only 3 ports needed)

      More about: https://mediasoup.discourse.group/t/mediasoups-webrtcserver-concerning-firewall-settings-and-port-binding/5965/5


      Cloudron integration

      To support this behavior on Cloudron, SFU_SERVER should be exposed as a toggle (switch button) in the MiroTalk SFU app settings (Location).
      When the switch is enabled, the port allocation logic in start.sh can be updated something as follows:

      # Enable / disable SFU server (default: false)
      readonly SFU_SERVER="${SFU_SERVER:-false}"
      
      # Number of CPU cores (used only when SFU is enabled)
      readonly CPU_CORES="$(nproc)"
      
      # Base TCP port (default: 25000)
      readonly SFU_TCP_BASE="${SFU_TCP:-25000}"
      
      if [[ "$SFU_SERVER" == "true" ]]; then
          # SFU enabled:
          # allocate one port per CPU core
          readonly SFU_MAX_PORT=$(( SFU_TCP_BASE + CPU_CORES - 1 ))
      else
          # Default behavior:
          # allocate 100 ports starting from the base port
          readonly SFU_MAX_PORT=$(( SFU_TCP_BASE + 100 ))
      fi
      

      Benefits of this approach

      • ✅ Fewer ports allocated
        Only the ports that are actually needed are opened, especially in SFU mode.

      • ✅ Reduced port conflicts
        Smaller port ranges significantly lower the chance of clashes with other services on the same host.

      • ✅ Better Cloudron compatibility
        Minimal port exposure aligns well with Cloudron’s strict networking and security model.

      • ✅ Scales with hardware
        Port allocation automatically adapts to the number of CPU cores available.

      • ✅ User control
        Exposing SFU_SERVER as a switch allows users to explicitly choose whether to run in SFU mode or keep the default behavior.

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      • jamesJ Offline
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        james
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        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        Hello @mirotalk
        Does this have any other effects?

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        • jamesJ james

          Hello @mirotalk
          Does this have any other effects?

          MiroTalkM Offline
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          MiroTalk
          App Maintainer
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          @james said in MiroTalk Update regularly fails after update:

          Does this have any other effects?

          In theory, it shouldn’t have any other effects, as long as the user can switch between these two modes. I’m not entirely sure why Mediasoup doesn’t use a server SFU by default, but you could ask the Mediasoup support forum for clarification.

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            #8

            Is there any update on this? I can't rely on this app for meeting links because about 75% of the time it's not running properly due to startup failure.

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              nebulon
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              wrote last edited by
              #9

              So this always happens when the app gets updated?

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              • nebulonN nebulon

                So this always happens when the app gets updated?

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                @nebulon It also happens after system updates or restarts. It seems it's a roll of the dice if the ports aren't already taken. Restarting the app doesn't fix it anymore, so now when it crashes I change the SFU TCP/UDP port range to something else and it works when the app restarts.

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                  #11

                  Sounds like a firewall cleanup issue or maybe something in between

                  Conscious tech

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                    nebulon
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                    wrote last edited by nebulon
                    #12

                    When this happens, can you check which container is occupying those ports?

                    You can run

                    docker ps --format "table {{.ID}}\t{{.Names}}\t{{.Ports}}" | grep <portnumber>
                    

                    which should reveal the container holding on to it.

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                    • D djxx

                      @nebulon It also happens after system updates or restarts. It seems it's a roll of the dice if the ports aren't already taken. Restarting the app doesn't fix it anymore, so now when it crashes I change the SFU TCP/UDP port range to something else and it works when the app restarts.

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                      MiroTalk
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                      wrote last edited by MiroTalk
                      #13

                      @djxx said:

                      Restarting the app doesn't fix it anymore, so now when it crashes I change the SFU TCP/UDP port range to something else and it works when the app restarts.

                      This issue can occur if another application is already using ports within the 40000–40100 range. To resolve it, you can either change the port range (for example, starting from 25000)

                      port-conflicts.png

                      or enable WebRTC server mode in the env (edit it via Cloudron file manager), which requires fewer ports, as described above.

                      SFU_SERVER=true
                      

                      Then restart the instance.

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