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Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)

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  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

    @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

    Another day, another rename

    The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

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    marcusquinn
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    @jdaviescoates sorted

    Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
    Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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      This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
      https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

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      Conscious tech

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      • robiR robi

        This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
        https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

        image.png

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        marcusquinn
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        #29

        @robi Sonnet 5 is due out this week, don't think we'll need anything else once that is 🙂

        Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
        Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

          @robi Sonnet 5 is due out this week, don't think we'll need anything else once that is 🙂

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          @marcusquinn token burn is real, and default config doesn't care.

          Hence openrouter's auto route helps

          As does this config optimization
          OC efficient config - https://x.com/alexxzay/status/2017824548276600914

          Conscious tech

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          • robiR robi

            @marcusquinn token burn is real, and default config doesn't care.

            Hence openrouter's auto route helps

            As does this config optimization
            OC efficient config - https://x.com/alexxzay/status/2017824548276600914

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            timconsidine
            App Dev
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            #31

            @robi thanks for that link
            still working on my openclaw package, so that will be useful (incorporated if I can)

            Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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              #32

              As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
              Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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              • C crazybrad

                As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                timconsidine
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                #33

                @crazybrad I have very similar thoughts & cautions.

                • packaging it because it looks cool and fun to learn what the fuss is about
                • I would NEVER deploy this on a primary working computer like desktop/laptop
                • deploying it in a container seems like it could be viable

                I have a feeling that Agent Zero is much better than Openclaw, but I can't really say that until I have test Openclaw fairly. So continuing on the package "just in case" it can help me or others.

                Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                • C crazybrad

                  As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                  Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                  #34

                  @crazybrad no fear, the enchanting experience is key.

                  Conscious tech

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                    @timconsidine I think "containerizing" is a great and much safer approach. I would just not use real accounts: email, social, etc. The fact that you are doing this might encourage me to create some test accounts and try it:) @robi Excellent point! "Mirror, mirror on the wall... whose the smartest one of all:)"

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                      I was thinking few roles for clawdbot / openclaw / agentzero as a bookeeper who with giving access to irs taxcode and postgress database ask him to be my accountant. Still thinking about it but i have to free few weekends for this. Any thoughts / suggestions?

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                      • D DualOSWinWiz

                        I was thinking few roles for clawdbot / openclaw / agentzero as a bookeeper who with giving access to irs taxcode and postgress database ask him to be my accountant. Still thinking about it but i have to free few weekends for this. Any thoughts / suggestions?

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                        marcusquinn
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                        #37

                        @DualOSWinWiz exactly the kind of thing this is for — go for it!

                        Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                        Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                          @DualOSWinWiz exactly the kind of thing this is for — go for it!

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                          @marcusquinn but the necessary requirement is to need 2 more bots one bot to audit bookeeper so its kind of more complex and then the 3rd bot as the decision maker so decision should always be 2 to 1. Otherwise it could be a mess. Still thinking

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                            @marcusquinn but the necessary requirement is to need 2 more bots one bot to audit bookeeper so its kind of more complex and then the 3rd bot as the decision maker so decision should always be 2 to 1. Otherwise it could be a mess. Still thinking

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                            marcusquinn
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                            @DualOSWinWiz sure, you could still do all that on one device.

                            Might be a useful skill to add into your mix:

                            • https://www.aitmpl.com/component/skill/invoice-organizer

                            Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                            Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                              @DualOSWinWiz sure, you could still do all that on one device.

                              Might be a useful skill to add into your mix:

                              • https://www.aitmpl.com/component/skill/invoice-organizer
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                              @marcusquinn thank you i will

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                              • C crazybrad

                                @timconsidine I think "containerizing" is a great and much safer approach. I would just not use real accounts: email, social, etc. The fact that you are doing this might encourage me to create some test accounts and try it:) @robi Excellent point! "Mirror, mirror on the wall... whose the smartest one of all:)"

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                                @crazybrad yep 👍- in my cautious approach I set up a dedicated address e.g. my-company-finance@app.domain.tld and forward manually/automatically emails to it, bot monitors email inbox and works only on those - not full primary email access

                                Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                                  @timconsidine Smart. Typical for you:)

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                                    Suggest switching this instead to support for:

                                    https://github.com/agent0ai/agent-zero

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                                      Suggest switching this instead to support for:

                                      https://github.com/agent0ai/agent-zero

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                                      marcusquinn
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                                      @LoudLemur has its own thread:

                                      • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/14958/agent-zero-a-personal-organic-agentic-framework-that-grows-and-learns-with-you

                                      Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
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                                        #45

                                        Some tips for setting it up to avoid the dumb clanker feeling:
                                        https://www.notion.so/ashenone/The-Bare-Minimum-To-Make-Your-OpenClaw-Agent-Actually-Good-311664f6a1e381c4976bdb8d689d2ffb

                                        https://xcancel.com/ashen_one/status/2026383178290569539

                                        YT vid didn't load so use ^ - should be fine now.

                                        Conscious tech

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                                          Packaged, needs more testing though https://git.due.ren/andreas/openclaw-cloudron/-/raw/main/CloudronVersions.json

                                          Plus it's an opinionated packaged geared towards what I think is important but installing new skills should work as is.

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