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Update on community packages

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  • murgeroM murgero

    @girish I absolutely love this idea but is there a way to maybe host a community store? Like Arch's AUR for example that way it can be searchable too - you can allow "verified devs" for an extra layer of security or something

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    @murgero
    Are you talking about the CUR? 😄
    Very happy to see this comming to Cloudron!

    Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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      Amazing !

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      • jadudmJ jadudm

        I would ask, for simplicity, that you require the developer to put the JSON in a fixed/predictable path, and allow the user to paste the URL for the main GH repo. Asking users to find the "raw" link is likely hard/confusing. Put the onus on the person packaging, not the person installing?

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        @jadudm Good idea, will give it a try.

        @murgero right now, the first step is to make it possible to install community packages easily. Depending on how many packages we have and how many people provide multiple packages, we have to look into adding custom stores.

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        • girishG girish

          @jadudm Good idea, will give it a try.

          @murgero right now, the first step is to make it possible to install community packages easily. Depending on how many packages we have and how many people provide multiple packages, we have to look into adding custom stores.

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          @girish said in Update on community packages:

          Depending on how many packages

          my CustomAppGateway has ~25 apps, and there are more currently out there not added to it, and with 9.1, I would expect the numbers to double at least.

          I have no hesitancy with deferring 'app discovery' in favour of getting the core functionality available and working.

          I feel we will need a discovery place of some kind, relying on a forum post in an AppWishList topic might be viable as short and medium term. But catalogue / CUR / "awesome" style git package is likely needed longer term. And it's more polished / prettier 😄

          Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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            Sorry, maybe a stupid question, but I didn't find the answer anywhere. Don't we have any "Guide" on how to create the new Community Apps for Cloudron? How do I know how the CloudronVersions.json have to be configured. What are the requirements? Are there limitations? When I look at existing CloudronVersions.json it seems that Community Apps do not need to use the Cloudron Base Image anymore? Questions over questions 🙂

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              Hello @kubernetes

              In the announcement https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/15174/community-apps we have linked the documentation.
              Follow the Packaging documentation and Publishing.

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                Hello @kubernetes

                If you find something unclear of lacking in the documentation, please let me know so we can improve further.

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                • jamesJ james

                  Hello @kubernetes

                  If you find something unclear of lacking in the documentation, please let me know so we can improve further.

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                  @james

                  Spread the word
                  
                  Post about new packages in the App Packaging & Development category of the forum.
                  

                  Personally I think that category should remain more technical, devs needing assistance / having questions.

                  You published a different category : https://forum.cloudron.io/category/220/community-apps

                  I think that is where the word should be spread.

                  Just my 2p.

                  Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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                    Hello @timconsidine
                    Good point.
                    Will update the documentation.

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                    • jamesJ james

                      Hello @kubernetes

                      If you find something unclear of lacking in the documentation, please let me know so we can improve further.

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                      @james said:

                      If you find something unclear of lacking in the documentation ...

                      Just getting my head around the workflow, and I like to "spell things out" :


                      • build the Community App (previously known as a Custom App) ✅
                        (my 'old fashioned' approach : docker build, docker push, cloudron install, probably keep doing that because my build script does it, don't fix what ain't broke)

                      • make a CloudronVersions.json file
                        ✅
                        same folder as project dev folder (Dockerfile, start.sh, CloudronManifest.json, README.md, POSTINSTALL.md etc.)
                        • cloudron versions init
                        • cloudron versions add
                        • maybe add to my build script

                      • why "CloudronVersions" in the plural ?
                        🤷
                        I guess Cloudron thinking is that a Community App might have v1.0.0, v1.0.1, v2.0.0
                        Very complete approach, lovely 👍
                        but with cloudron versions revoke I wonder if this will ever be in true in practice (I would likely revoke every old version).

                      • upload CloudronVersions.json to static hosting
                        ✅ gotcha 👍
                        but if I have 10 Custom oops Community Apps, what is Cloudron team envisioning :
                        • that I will have 10 Surfer apps (app1.tim.uk, app2.tim.uk, etc) ?

                        • Or 1 sectioned Surfer app (communityapps.tim.uk) ?

                        • Or no Surfer apps and just stick CloudronVersions.json in the relevant git repo (urls to files from git are not always clear) ?

                        • I guess you probably don't care, but I'm intrigued what your expectations are


                      Cloudron CLI help typo ?

                      % cloudron versions --help 
                      Usage: cloudron-versions [options] [command]
                      

                      Hyphenated ?


                      Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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