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Emails not delivered

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  • jamesJ Offline
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    james
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    wrote last edited by james
    #2

    Hello @sebastienserre
    Please include the output of cloudron-support --troubleshoot

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    • sebastienserreS Offline
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      #3
      root@my:~# cloudron-support --troubleshoot
      Vendor: QEMU Product: Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996)
      Linux: 6.8.0-124-generic
      Ubuntu: noble 24.04
      Cloudron: 9.2.0
      Execution environment: kvm
      Processor: AMD EPYC 9354P 32-Core Processor
      BIOS pc-i440fx-10.1  CPU @ 2.0GHz x 2
      RAM: 8131468KB
      Disk: /dev/sda1        50G
      [OK]	Root disk usage is OK (49%)
      [OK]	Memory usage is OK (67%)
      [OK]	Clock is NTP-synchronized
      [OK]	node version is correct
      [OK]	IPv6 is enabled in kernel. Public IPv6 address detected
      [OK]	docker is running
      [OK]	docker version is correct
      [OK]	MySQL is running
      [OK]	netplan is good
      [OK]	DNS is resolving via systemd-resolved
      [OK]	unbound is running
      [OK]	IPv4 HTTPS to api.cloudron.io/api/v1/helper/public_ip
      [OK]	IPv6 HTTPS to api.cloudron.io/api/v1/helper/public_ip
      [OK]	IPv4 HTTPS to auth.docker.io/token
      [OK]	IPv6 HTTPS to auth.docker.io/token
      [OK]	IPv4 HTTPS to acme-v02.api.letsencrypt.org
      [OK]	IPv6 HTTPS to acme-v02.api.letsencrypt.org
      [OK]	nginx is running
      [OK]	dashboard cert is valid
      [OK]	dashboard is reachable via loopback
      [OK]	No pending database migrations
      [OK]	Service 'mysql' is running and healthy
      [OK]	Service 'postgresql' is running and healthy
      [WARN]	Service 'mongodb' is not running (may be lazy-stopped)
      [OK]	Service 'mail' is running and healthy
      [OK]	Service 'graphite' is running and healthy
      [OK]	Service 'sftp' is running and healthy
      [OK]	box v9.2.0 is running
      [OK]	Dashboard is reachable via IPv4 (https://my.thivinfo.com)
      [FAIL]	IPv6: could not load https://my.thivinfo.com
      [OK]	Domain thivinfo.com is valid and has not expired
      
      ======== Summary ========
      PASS:  29
      WARN:  1
      FAIL:  1
      SKIP:  0
      
      Failures:
        - IPv6: could not load https://my.thivinfo.com
      
      Warnings:
        - Service 'mongodb' is not running (may be lazy-stopped)
      
      For troubleshooting tips, see https://docs.cloudron.io/troubleshooting
      To share a full diagnostic dump on the forum, run: cloudron-support --send-diagnostics
      root@my:~# 
      

      He/Him - Native language: French

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      • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

        Hello,

        For some days, I have had several emails not delivered.
        In the logs, I can read:

        {
            "ts": 1781015387801,
            "type": "deferred",
            "direction": "outbound",
            "uuid": "3118C384-EC0C-43D8-B705-41F57EEC074B.1",
            "messageId": null,
            "mailFrom": "<>",
            "spamStatus": null,
            "mailbox": null,
            "quotaPercent": null,
            "rcptTo": [
                "<communication@XXX.com>"
            ],
            "message": "Tried all MXs",
            "delay": 65536,
            "failRecips": null,
            "mx": null,
            "_id": "3118C384-EC0C-43D8-B705-41F57EEC074B.1-1781015387801",
            "isOpen": true
        }
        

        Any idea what is happening ?

        Cloudron 9.20

        jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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        jdaviescoates
        wrote last edited by
        #4

        @sebastienserre said:

        Any idea what is happening ?

        likely your ipv6 issue I'd guess

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • jamesJ Offline
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          wrote last edited by
          #5

          Hello @sebastienserre
          Yes, I would also assume the same as @jdaviescoates
          No IPv6 for a mailserver is getting used a block reason these days.

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          • sebastienserreS Offline
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            sebastienserre
            wrote last edited by sebastienserre
            #6

            But one is set on the bunny DNS (created through the API directly by Cloudron)
            https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=aaaa%3Amy.thivinfo.com&run=toolpage

            He/Him - Native language: French

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            • sebastienserreS sebastienserre

              But one is set on the bunny DNS (created through the API directly by Cloudron)
              https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=aaaa%3Amy.thivinfo.com&run=toolpage

              jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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              jdaviescoates
              wrote last edited by jdaviescoates
              #7

              @sebastienserre it's probably the ipv6 reverse DNS aka rDNS aka PTR which you set via your VPS provider and not by your DNS provider

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • sebastienserreS Offline
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                sebastienserre
                wrote last edited by
                #8

                It now seems OK https://www.whatsmydns.net/#PTR/2a02:4780:28:cf44::1 but Cloudron always fail in the Troubleshot command

                He/Him - Native language: French

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                • sebastienserreS Offline
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #9

                  Moreover the Cloudron Trouble shoot command is asking me something different from the Cloudron mail settings....
                  Mail settings

                  How can I have a PTR on my.thivinfo.com asked by the troubleshot command and to mail.thivinfo.com ?
                  Mail.* is my mailserver location on the settings due to long time setup before I migrated to Cloudron)

                  He/Him - Native language: French

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                  • jamesJ Offline
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                    #10

                    Hello @sebastienserre
                    The PTR record is set up from your hosting provider.
                    For Example Linode for my.cloudron.dev where the mail subdomain is also my.cloudron.dev:
                    69a717df-22ec-4b4a-a0b8-880e8747471d-image.jpeg

                    I just took your domain my.thivinfo.com and get the IPv4 and IPv6:

                    dig A my.thivinfo.com +short
                    185.97.146.212
                    dig AAAA my.thivinfo.com +short
                    2a02:4780:28:cf44::1
                    

                    Also checking the MX record:

                    dig mx thivinfo.com +short
                    10 mail.thivinfo.com.
                    

                    So the PTR/rDNS should resolve from the IPv4/IPv6 to mail.thivinfo.com:

                    dig -x 185.97.146.212 +short
                    my.thivinfo.com.
                    dig -x 2a02:4780:28:cf44::1 +short
                    my.thivinfo.com.
                    

                    Both resolve to my.thivinfo.com which is incorrect, and thus mail server are blocking your mails.


                    Go into your hosting provider interface not Bunny DNS and configure the rDNS/PTR record to be mail.thivinfo.com.

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                    • sebastienserreS Offline
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #11

                      OK, so I had mail.thivinfo.com as PTR but the cloudron troubleshot report in 1st comment, said

                      [FAIL]	IPv6: could not load https://my.thivinfo.com
                      

                      So I do not understand....

                      He/Him - Native language: French

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