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Re: Where shall I host my Nextcloud Server?
Give DigitalOcean a try and use this link that gives ya 50 dollars to use the first month https://m.do.co/c/933831d60a1e
They have one click install for cloudron which makes my life so easy to stand new servers up.
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In all fairness - the first post is just an opportunity to post OP's ref code for Digitalocean IMHO
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@necrevistonnezr you might be right, I've changed the link to use the same we have on the website. In any case a new user can profit through such a code, we have the same on our install page.
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From my own experience I would extremely recommend you vps called Time4VPS. Time4VPS is a division of the company ‘Interneto vizija’ which was founded in 2003 and quickly grew to serve more than 100,000 clients across Europe. By combining affordable, scalable options with enterprise-level technology, they are able to supply customers with internet address registration, web hosting and VPS services. As you can see, here are both windows vps and linux vps and there are a lot of various tariffs – from cheapest to most expensive ones. Also, you can choose to pay monthly or annually. For payments you are allowed to use such payment systems as PayPal, WebMoney, Coinfy, Alipay and your visa card.
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Since this post, we are now available in a variety of marketplaces - linode, vultr, DO, AWS, time4vps, netcup . I probably missed a few more.
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@yeku Oh, is Cloudron available on Hetzner (atleast, we didn't create it or help them create it)? I will have to login to our Hetzner account and check tomorrow.
@girish said in Easiest VPS for Cloudron with one click install.:
@yeku Oh, is Cloudron available on Hetzner
No.
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@yeku Oh, is Cloudron available on Hetzner (atleast, we didn't create it or help them create it)? I will have to login to our Hetzner account and check tomorrow.
@girish I'm sorry. I misunderstood you. No. Cloudron is not available on Hetzner. But it should be.
That is a H-U-G-E oversight. It is also one of Cloudron's myriad egregious marketing errors. (Yes, sadly I have had the displeasure of watching many engineers destroy promising startups because, well, engineers are often good at engineering yet generally bad at running businesses).
Hetzner is cheaper than Digital Ocean and Vultr. Using Vultr's One-Click Cloudron install would cost me 10 US dollars per month because, well, because when I clicked on Vultr's One-Click Cloudron install I was automatically upgraded to a ten US dollars per month VPS.
Yet, if I were to install the applications I want to run manually (without using Cloudron but instead by entering commands into a terminal), I would probably actually only need a two US dollars and fifty cents per month server on Vultr.
I'm not being cynical but, well, hmmm... to increase your chances of success you need to try to decrease your customers' costs. For more information please see Laws of Tech: Commoditize ​Your Complement.
If you "do the math" I could spend a few hours to manually install the applications I want to use and then pay Vultr two dollars and fifty cents per month. Or I could pay Cloudron fifteen US dollars per month and pay Vultr ten US dollars per month to run those same apps.
Because I probably wouldn't upgrade the apps for, let's say, three years the difference would be seventy-five US dollars versus seven hundred and fifty dollars US dollars. For six hundred and seventy five US dollars I would probably choose to install the apps manually.
A good technical product does not sell itself. In other words, "Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door" is false. (Ralph Waldo Emerson was a nincompoop). Put more bluntly: bad marketing can easily destroy a startup. Just as good engineering does not merely involve using formulas to crunch numbers, good marketing does not merely consist of hand-waving. In other words, just as good engineering is difficult, so too good marketing is also difficult.
Homework assignments in the form of problem sets are easy for teaching assistants in universities to grade but they do not properly prepare engineering students for the reality of engineering in a business environment. Without a basic grasp of accounting, finance, marketing, and above all else, management, most young engineers tend to struggle to deal with the cold, hard realities they encounter in the work world.
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@girish I'm sorry. I misunderstood you. No. Cloudron is not available on Hetzner. But it should be.
That is a H-U-G-E oversight. It is also one of Cloudron's myriad egregious marketing errors. (Yes, sadly I have had the displeasure of watching many engineers destroy promising startups because, well, engineers are often good at engineering yet generally bad at running businesses).
Hetzner is cheaper than Digital Ocean and Vultr. Using Vultr's One-Click Cloudron install would cost me 10 US dollars per month because, well, because when I clicked on Vultr's One-Click Cloudron install I was automatically upgraded to a ten US dollars per month VPS.
Yet, if I were to install the applications I want to run manually (without using Cloudron but instead by entering commands into a terminal), I would probably actually only need a two US dollars and fifty cents per month server on Vultr.
I'm not being cynical but, well, hmmm... to increase your chances of success you need to try to decrease your customers' costs. For more information please see Laws of Tech: Commoditize ​Your Complement.
If you "do the math" I could spend a few hours to manually install the applications I want to use and then pay Vultr two dollars and fifty cents per month. Or I could pay Cloudron fifteen US dollars per month and pay Vultr ten US dollars per month to run those same apps.
Because I probably wouldn't upgrade the apps for, let's say, three years the difference would be seventy-five US dollars versus seven hundred and fifty dollars US dollars. For six hundred and seventy five US dollars I would probably choose to install the apps manually.
A good technical product does not sell itself. In other words, "Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door" is false. (Ralph Waldo Emerson was a nincompoop). Put more bluntly: bad marketing can easily destroy a startup. Just as good engineering does not merely involve using formulas to crunch numbers, good marketing does not merely consist of hand-waving. In other words, just as good engineering is difficult, so too good marketing is also difficult.
Homework assignments in the form of problem sets are easy for teaching assistants in universities to grade but they do not properly prepare engineering students for the reality of engineering in a business environment. Without a basic grasp of accounting, finance, marketing, and above all else, management, most young engineers tend to struggle to deal with the cold, hard realities they encounter in the work world.
@yeku Bet you were hilarious fun at Uni.
I mostly learned how to roll a fat one in many different ways and find cheap beer 
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@yeku Bet you were hilarious fun at Uni.
I mostly learned how to roll a fat one in many different ways and find cheap beer @marcusquinn Yeah. I was in a fraternity when I was in college. It was like the movie Animal House... but worse. Looking back on it I'm embarrassed by what I did. But it was fun at the time. College itself was a big waste of time for me.
