Notion-like FOSS app
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Try out notion, and then comment, you're being downvoted because you're speaking from a place of a lack of knowledge on the given topic. Your comments are not helpful on this specific topic because by your suggestions, it is obvious that you've never used notion.
I say this with love my friend, try out notion and see how different it is from other solutions in this space.@will I'll give notion a try I guess. but speaking from a purely technical standpoint I don't believe my comment justified being downvoted so much.
I am sure notion is probably leagues better than using some 3rd party nextcloud apps, but the OP asked what FOSS solutions were out there, I obliged the question. That's all.
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@will I'll give notion a try I guess. but speaking from a purely technical standpoint I don't believe my comment justified being downvoted so much.
I am sure notion is probably leagues better than using some 3rd party nextcloud apps, but the OP asked what FOSS solutions were out there, I obliged the question. That's all.
@murgero Again, how can you judge the technical merits of one solution compared to another when you clearly don't understand the feature set or use case of one of the solutions?
Thats why you were down voted, and because your continued refusal to see the error of your understandable gap in knowledge, it comes across as hubris.
Your heart is in the right place, but once you were told that your alternatives were not relevant, continuing to debate and come up with more non-applicable examples did nothing but muddy the waters and detract from finding a solution to OP's original question.The point is Notion isn't the end all be all, but it is super novel and unique, and a self hosted alternative would be super cool. As far as I can tell, one doesn't exist. Hope that changes!
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@murgero Again, how can you judge the technical merits of one solution compared to another when you clearly don't understand the feature set or use case of one of the solutions?
Thats why you were down voted, and because your continued refusal to see the error of your understandable gap in knowledge, it comes across as hubris.
Your heart is in the right place, but once you were told that your alternatives were not relevant, continuing to debate and come up with more non-applicable examples did nothing but muddy the waters and detract from finding a solution to OP's original question.The point is Notion isn't the end all be all, but it is super novel and unique, and a self hosted alternative would be super cool. As far as I can tell, one doesn't exist. Hope that changes!
@will said in Notion-like FOSS app:
The point is Notion isn't the end all be all, but it is super novel and unique, and a self hosted alternative would be super cool. As far as I can tell, one doesn't exist. Hope that changes!
Did you guys even read my response? I posted a FOSS replacement for Notion - that has ALL of notions FEATURES that are listed on the site. With the knowledge I had, I answered the ORIGINAL QUESTION the original poster had:
"So, is there anything FOSS that can even begin to compare to Notion?"
Yes, NextCloud can compare to Notion, as far as features go. I also happened to list other groupware like features because notion is groupware.
Yes - I already acknowledged my knowledge of Notion was limited, and I even tried it. It's f--king amazing! BUT OP asked for a FOSS replacement for it, not if it was Open Source itself...
Go back and read my original response. I'll even edit it to specifically point out where NextCloud and Notion are the same (as far as the feature goes).
Edit: I'd like to apologize if my response comes off nasty. I do not mean to try and offend anyone on the forum. I'm just trying to stick to my original point. I hope we can all still be friends
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I acknowledge the genuine intent of your original reply, @murgero. Thank you. As one of the recurring Cloudron community members your enthusiasm to further the project and help users out is quite notable.
I think that the nature of what Notion brings makes it especially prone to be overlooked feature-wise compared to other tools: it’s the specific way of how elements from other novel tools are put together that makes Notion unique.
So let’s move on. Notion has no FOSS counterpart for the time being. I don’t even se any FOSS no-code tools like the other ones mentioned in the original post. But let’s keep our ears to the ground.
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In my profession I’ve recently been assimilated into the Notion universe. It’s truly brilliant.
But it’s not free (as in freedom). So as I start to pour huge amount of work into structuring and using it, my woes of lock-in comes as expected.
There’s this whole new class of digital tools flexible enough to be shaped by non-coders for virtually any workflow: Notion, Airtable, Coda, Next Matter.
I sense that as the tools of this no-code movement develops further, users realize they don’t need to settle for other people’s workflow but can shape the tools to their liking instead of the other way around. Thus these tools may lay the groundwork for a new level of user expectancy, possibly leaving old rigid tools in the dust.
So, is there anything FOSS that can even begin to compare to Notion?
@yusf some venerable wikis I used allow to generate dynamic elements and input interfaces in pages and build simple applications on demand with scripting.
- TWiki and Foswiki with their own markup language, macros and numerous extensions.
- Xwiki use Velocity, Groovy and code snippets.
Recently Mavo opened: "A new, approachable way to create web applications. Create complex, reactive, persistent web applications by just writing HTML & CSS, without a single line of JavaScript and no server backend. Developed in the Haystack Group at MIT CSAIL and led by Lea Verou. "
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@yusf some venerable wikis I used allow to generate dynamic elements and input interfaces in pages and build simple applications on demand with scripting.
- TWiki and Foswiki with their own markup language, macros and numerous extensions.
- Xwiki use Velocity, Groovy and code snippets.
Recently Mavo opened: "A new, approachable way to create web applications. Create complex, reactive, persistent web applications by just writing HTML & CSS, without a single line of JavaScript and no server backend. Developed in the Haystack Group at MIT CSAIL and led by Lea Verou. "
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I acknowledge the genuine intent of your original reply, @murgero. Thank you. As one of the recurring Cloudron community members your enthusiasm to further the project and help users out is quite notable.
I think that the nature of what Notion brings makes it especially prone to be overlooked feature-wise compared to other tools: it’s the specific way of how elements from other novel tools are put together that makes Notion unique.
So let’s move on. Notion has no FOSS counterpart for the time being. I don’t even se any FOSS no-code tools like the other ones mentioned in the original post. But let’s keep our ears to the ground.
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@murgero Im with you! I used to be die hard anti FOSS, now I'm studying CompSci so I can help out around here!
If you think of FOSS in interpersonal relations, I just gave you a push to your mental git repo hahahah I hope you'll return the favor when I stumble! -
In my profession I’ve recently been assimilated into the Notion universe. It’s truly brilliant.
But it’s not free (as in freedom). So as I start to pour huge amount of work into structuring and using it, my woes of lock-in comes as expected.
There’s this whole new class of digital tools flexible enough to be shaped by non-coders for virtually any workflow: Notion, Airtable, Coda, Next Matter.
I sense that as the tools of this no-code movement develops further, users realize they don’t need to settle for other people’s workflow but can shape the tools to their liking instead of the other way around. Thus these tools may lay the groundwork for a new level of user expectancy, possibly leaving old rigid tools in the dust.
So, is there anything FOSS that can even begin to compare to Notion?
@yusf
My understanding is that anytype .io is similar to Notion. The developers say they plan to open source it after they release it.
It is built on IPFS. You can check out a video here:I have no affiliation. I just stumbled upon it and have been awaiting its release. If it lives up to the hype, I hope to somehow use it with cloudron
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@yusf
My understanding is that anytype .io is similar to Notion. The developers say they plan to open source it after they release it.
It is built on IPFS. You can check out a video here:I have no affiliation. I just stumbled upon it and have been awaiting its release. If it lives up to the hype, I hope to somehow use it with cloudron
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@yusf
My understanding is that anytype .io is similar to Notion. The developers say they plan to open source it after they release it.
It is built on IPFS. You can check out a video here:I have no affiliation. I just stumbled upon it and have been awaiting its release. If it lives up to the hype, I hope to somehow use it with cloudron
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FYI: Notion just removed the block limits in the free plan: https://www.notion.so/pricing
Free for individuals
Unlimited pages & blocks
Share with 5 guests
Sync across devicesFile uploads still limited to 5 MB.
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https://github.com/outline/outline looks great but from the issue tracker it seems that author will not merge features like LDAP as they don't make sense for his SaaS.
@girish said in Notion-like FOSS app:
https://github.com/outline/outline looks great but from the issue tracker it seems that author will not merge features like LDAP as they don't make sense for his SaaS.
Although on their pricing page they do advertise SSO as an Enterprise option
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Would you consider CodiMD covers the main usage and needs that you get from Notion perhaps?
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And for an AirTable alternative I'm a big fan of what Directus makes easier:
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Would you consider CodiMD covers the main usage and needs that you get from Notion perhaps?
@marcuswquinn said in Notion-like FOSS app:
Would you consider CodiMD covers the main usage and needs that you get from Notion perhaps?
https://cloudron.io/store/io.hackmd.cloudronapp.htmlNo. It's not even remotely comparable.
