Pterodactyl Panel & Pterodactyl Node (each as own app)
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Hi.
So Iām looking to see if its possible to run Pterodactyl (pterodactyl.io) and the daemon as separate apps on cloudron.
This is a well known game hosting panel, which also offers support for nodejs apps and discord bots, py scripts, etc.
Would be great to see you add it!
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Pterodactyl looks excellent! It has all the features one may think of when it comes to game server management which I think legitimizes a "system within a system" as a Cloudron app.
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@yusf Iām not quite sure if you see my idea as positive or negative as Iām not a native english speaker, are you able to elaborate?
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Someone from Pterodactyl project actually applied for a license a while ago. Let me ping them to check what the status of the package is and if they need our help.
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@girish Sounds good! Would be great to see the panel & daemon as apps on the cloudron store! And will definitely make me buy a second license.
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@girish It would be cool if you could implement this, there's a docker version here: https://github.com/ccarney16/pterodactyl-docker
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Is someone able to deploy this to unstable for me to install? Either via cloudroncli or appstore?
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@Trankery That would require the packaging effort to be undertaken first - not impossible, but not a super fast thing to do either. I'm a little booked at the moment, but if @girish has an update on whether anyone from the project replied, it would help expedite things a lot if they were willing to do that.
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Any update on this?
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@Trankery We are not actively working on it. But out of curiosity, are you interested in the pterodactyl panel itself or some specific game server inside it?
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Pterodactyl itself whould be very nice @girish , because it whould enable so much different gameservers and stuff that it really expands Cloudron i a good way. I thinking about cancel the cloudron-abo only to bring ptero to my system but than i cant install cloudron side-by-side...
But Cloudron has that other cool stuff like the simple email-configuration and the simple maintenance of a huge amount of websites and cool software like discourse... i messing around to bring up different gameserver for my network but that is not as good as i wish.
So bringing Pterodactyl to cloudron was the holy gral for me.
AND! Pls pls pls enable Portranges... pls... its such a mess to compile a whole new app to bring up additional ports and after that i must update all stuff by myself so i lost the big thing why cloudron is such a great piece of software. ;(
best regards Sidias
EDIT: For the Portranges maybe a field that can be edited like Port1-Port34;Port56;Port120-Port230;Port789 and so on to make it possible to bring more flexibility to the existing apps.
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@Sidias From what I understand, pterodactyl is a control panel by itself for running docker based game servers. Are you looking for the game servers (easier) or are you looking for running pterodactyl ? If it's the former, can you tell us which game servers are your immediate need? For example, we have minecraft (and 2 version of that). If it's the latter, can you tell me a bit more about what pterodactyl will give you over running say game servers directly on Cloudron?
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Yes it's true there are 2 MC-Server-Apps but unfortunately they are useless for the serious used one. I use custom jars for the minecraft servers and a lot of plugins. All this must be manageable. The best way is a clever FTP or even better a reasonable webpanel which allows up- and download of the plugins, custom jars, start parameters and much more. Furthermore, a proper rights management should be included so that if you have a large team, you can give read and write access to certain folders to individual people and or start stop restart rights for the server.
There is just so much missing in the MC apps that it's crazy. Also they should not only be able to use the vanilla port because there are some plugins like Dynmap, Plan etc. which need more ports to work. For this a Portrange would be very practical.
At the moment I've made a Multicraft with Lamp and use it, but because of the missing portranges and the strange rights management of the app I can't autoupdate it and I have to be careful when I make a backup without explicitly checking the folder rights before the backup doesn't start because it doesn't have the necessary rights.
All this leads to the fact that I have to tinker around a lot by hand to get all my MC servers online properly. Not to mention clever mysql...
translatet with deepl i hope its all understandable =).
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Any updates about this topic?
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+1 On this, even if we could just get the panel itself.
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@jlx89
Is really hard to port Pterodactyl to Cloudron because they to the same thing, manage docker container on servers.But we are as community to develop minecraft image with multiple server type (Forge, Fabric, Spigot, ...) for cloudron directly.
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@moocloud_matt That makes sense, I wasnt quite thinking about it like that.
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@moocloud_matt A quick question on this. So taking a look, hypothetically couldn't the panel be setup on Cloudron and Wings be setup on a different server?
It seems the Panel could be setup separately and Cloudron seems to meet most of the requirements for that (MySQL, Redis, etc.) [More Info].
I'm just thinking Cloudron would make that portion of things super easy and take most of the management out of the process, then just dealing with Wings on another server.
Thanks
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Alright, so sorry for multiple replies on this. So I've successfully got Pterodactyl Panel setup and running on the Cloudron LAMP Stack so far. There are a few minor issues with communication to the Pterodactyl Node, but I suspect it's a firewall issue.
So this is definitely possible and would be simplified if it was setup as an App in the Cloudron store with some configurable options on installation.
@girish Would there happen to be anything I could do to help if this would be feasible to setup?
Thanks!
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@jlx89
Yes and no,
yes, Pterodactyl Panel can be installed in Cloudron, no Wings can't be installed in Cloudron.The question is you should install Pterodactyl on Cloudron, aside from firewall Pterodactyl you will need a lot of dependencies, and because you can use Pterodactyl + Wings on the same server as a start you should.
If you have just 1 node you can also use the hosted free version of Pterodactyl and you will be probably fine, but if you have more than 1 node you want to dedicate all instance to Pterodactyl.
A limitation that you will have is probably the HTTPS on a custom port that cloudron doesn't support at the moment.
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What is the latest on Pterodactyl on Cloudron?
Why couldn't Wings be run with Cloudron? -
@LoudLemur
Wings manage container, that means that it dose the same work as Cloudron.
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@MooCloud_Matt This problem, which is a bit like being unable to do recursion, keeps cropping up in Cloudron. It is like a theme. I think it was for similar reasons that Cloudron hasn't proceeded to support Odoo, as Odoo installs applications in a way similar to Cloudron. There was another app recently too, I forget its name right now.
What is interesting though is that Cloudron does support Nextcloud, which installs other modules. The way we managed to solve that might help here.
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@LoudLemur
There are many advantages that we don't speak a lot about, but there are some disadvantage too:What you say in odoo is mostly due to the nature for a read only filesystem.
That don't allow to save data outside 4 directory, very comune for webapp.Nextcloud is a webapp and is build as it, so it's more flexible to be restricted in directory location.
Odoo is an ERP and is actually a quite good one, and ERP are develop differently, they are not webapp.
Second problem is that Cloudron don't use Pods or Compose, but single container that mean that every app can be run in a single container.
And secondary been Cloudron base on docker and been implemented as the main controller for it, can cause problem if others panel interact with docker.That's is the reason on the incompatibility for wings.
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@MooCloud_Matt said in Pterodactyl Panel & Pterodactyl Node (each as own app):
@LoudLemur
There are many advantages that we don't speak a lot about, but there are some disadvantage too:What you say in odoo is mostly due to the nature for a read only filesystem.
That don't allow to save data outside 4 directory, very comune for webapp.Nextcloud is a webapp and is build as it, so it's more flexible to be restricted in directory location.
Odoo is an ERP and is actually a quite good one, and ERP are develop differently, they are not webapp.
Second problem is that Cloudron don't use Pods or Compose, but single container that mean that every app can be run in a single container.
And secondary been Cloudron base on docker and been implemented as the main controller for it, can cause problem if others panel interact with docker.That's is the reason on the incompatibility for wings.
You are another of the people in the Cloudron community with hard won knowledge. We are lucky you are here, @MooCloud_Matt
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@LoudLemur
The issue is that tech change so fast and maybe my information are old.
But ty
